The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[hleV]

SSJ4 Vegetto vs Omega Shenron (fused with 10 other Omega Shenrons) yes it's another one of those silly fights

Vegetto wins in base.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I like this one:
Imperfect Cell vs Meta Cooler. I have my own idea of who wins but what do you guys think?

[Insertclevername]

SSJ4 Vegetto vs Omega Shenron (fused with 10 other Omega Shenrons) yes it's another one of those silly fights

Vegetto wins in base.

I'm guessing this is a joke, right?

I like this one:
Imperfect Cell vs Meta Cooler. I have my own idea of who wins but what do you guys think?

I put Metal Coola under Super Android 13, which I have about even with #16/Cell. So Cell has the upper hand in raw strength. Coola does have Shunkun Ido, but I doubt it will make much of a difference. So Cell wins due to superior strength and multiple techniques.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SSJ4 Vegetto vs Omega Shenron (fused with 10 other Omega Shenrons) yes it's another one of those silly fights

Vegetto wins in base.

I'm guessing this is a joke, right?

I like this one:
Imperfect Cell vs Meta Cooler. I have my own idea of who wins but what do you guys think?

I put Metal Coola under Super Android 13, which I have about even with #16/Cell. So Cell has the upper hand in raw strength. Coola does have Shunkun Ido, but I doubt it will make much of a difference. So Cell wins due to superior strength and multiple techniques.

I like your answer sir you get an imaginary cookie

[hleV]

SSJ4 Vegetto vs Omega Shenron (fused with 10 other Omega Shenrons) yes it's another one of those silly fights

Vegetto wins in base.

I'm guessing this is a joke, right?

Not at all. Vegetto is Goku x Vegeta in Battle Power units (while Gogeta is only tens of times stronger than Goku/Vegeta).

[TheMightyOzaru]

Not at all. Vegetto is Goku x Vegeta in Battle Power units (while Gogeta is only tens of times stronger than Goku/Vegeta).

I highly doubt its literally Goku x Vegeta. That power level would be unnecessarily massive and wouldnt require Vegetto to go SSJ at all against Buu. I think its something closer to multiplication but not literally Goku x Vegeta.

[Insertclevername]

Don't mind if I do.....

How about SSJ Gotenks (pre ROSAT) Vs. Super Hatchyaku.

Not at all. Vegetto is Goku x Vegeta in Battle Power units (while Gogeta is only tens of times stronger than Goku/Vegeta).

I'm aware, but I fail to see how Gokuu times Vegeta (in base) is stronger than Super Yi Xing Long X10.

[hleV]

Not at all. Vegetto is Goku x Vegeta in Battle Power units (while Gogeta is only tens of times stronger than Goku/Vegeta).

I highly doubt its literally Goku x Vegeta. That power level would be unnecessarily massive and wouldnt require Vegetto to go SSJ at all against Buu. I think its something closer to multiplication but not literally Goku x Vegeta.

There are good counter-arguments for Vegetto going SSJ, so let's just agree to disagree.

If it matters, I think that Vegetto is literally Goku x Vegeta because Vegetto is supposed to be an "end-game" character. The strongest in DB, where characters are already ridiculously strong. Why can't Vegetto be like a million times stronger than, say, Boo? It's never contradicted and never will be.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Not at all. Vegetto is Goku x Vegeta in Battle Power units (while Gogeta is only tens of times stronger than Goku/Vegeta).

I highly doubt its literally Goku x Vegeta. That power level would be unnecessarily massive and wouldnt require Vegetto to go SSJ at all against Buu. I think its something closer to multiplication but not literally Goku x Vegeta.

There are good counter-arguments for Vegetto going SSJ, so let's just agree to disagree.

Very well.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Don't mind if I do.....

How about SSJ Gotenks (pre ROSAT) Vs. Super Hatchyaku.

SSJ Gotenks IMO.

[Blade]

How about:

Adult Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs Baby Vegeta.

Imagine that somehow Trunks and Goten were not affected by Baby's egg or were restored by Goku, Pan and Giru before Baby absorbed their power whilst in Vegeta's body.

The argument in GT for Goku's Super Saiyan 3 being ineffective is that his body, as a child, is unable to sustain such a form that places such a physical strain on it - implying that he is significantly weakened for using it. We already know from Dragonball Z that Gotenks as a child form can more than easily attain and sustain Super Saiyan 3 - something which I assume has something to do with the extra durability gained from fusing two bodies together.

Alternatively, how about:

Adult Goku Super Saiyan 3 vs Baby Vegeta (pre-final transformation)

[DBZAOTA482]

How about:

Adult Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs Baby Vegeta.

Imagine that somehow Trunks and Goten were not affected by Baby's egg or were restored by Goku, Pan and Giru before Baby absorbed their power whilst in Vegeta's body.

The argument in GT for Goku's Super Saiyan 3 being ineffective is that his body, as a child, is unable to sustain such a form that places such a physical strain on it - implying that he is significantly weakened for using it. We already know from Dragonball Z that Gotenks as a child form can more than easily attain and sustain Super Saiyan 3 - something which I assume has something to do with the extra durability gained from fusing two bodies together.

Alternatively, how about:

Adult Goku Super Saiyan 3 vs Baby Vegeta (pre-final transformation)

Bebi beats Gotenks by default for his name is not Goku, and it's hard to say for the other one.

[TheMightyOzaru]

How about:

Adult Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs Baby Vegeta.

Imagine that somehow Trunks and Goten were not affected by Baby's egg or were restored by Goku, Pan and Giru before Baby absorbed their power whilst in Vegeta's body.

The argument in GT for Goku's Super Saiyan 3 being ineffective is that his body, as a child, is unable to sustain such a form that places such a physical strain on it - implying that he is significantly weakened for using it. We already know from Dragonball Z that Gotenks as a child form can more than easily attain and sustain Super Saiyan 3 - something which I assume has something to do with the extra durability gained from fusing two bodies together.

Alternatively, how about:

Adult Goku Super Saiyan 3 vs Baby Vegeta (pre-final transformation)

No. Goten doesnt train often or at all thus Adult Gotenks would be just as strong if not weaker than Buu saga Gotenks. I say this because Goten and Trunks have to be equal which means Trunks despite training would have to drop his power to match Gotens. I can tell you right now that SSJ3 Adult Gotenks isnt even gonna scratch SSJ GT Goku.

[MisguidedGhost]

Legendary Super Saiyan Broly from movie 8 versus four Cell Juniors. If that's too many/too few, how many of the little blue guys would it take to bring Broly down?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Legendary Super Saiyan Broly from movie 8 versus four Cell Juniors. If that's too many/too few, how many of the little blue guys would it take to bring Broly down?

If 2 of the 4 combined a Kamehameha they might be able to kill Movie 8 Broly.

[Kaboom]

I view M8 Broly as being more or less the movies equivalent of full-power Perfect Cell. So Broly can massacre all four Cell Juniors at once.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I view M8 Broly as being more or less the movies equivalent of full-power Perfect Cell. So Broly can massacre all four Cell Juniors at once.

Movie 8 Broly was beaten by a SSJ Goku powered up by his fatigued friends all of whom were not as strong as there Cell Games counterparts. LSSJ Broly would get owned by Perfect Cell IMO.

[hleV]

I view M8 Broly as being more or less the movies equivalent of full-power Perfect Cell. So Broly can massacre all four Cell Juniors at once.

Movie 8 Broly was beaten by a SSJ Goku powered up by his fatigued friends all of whom were not as strong as there Cell Games counterparts. LSSJ Broly would get owned by Perfect Cell IMO.

LSSJ Broli was beaten by SSJ Goku. SSJ Goku, SSJ Gohan, SSJG2 Trunks, SSJG2 Vegeta and Piccolo were beaten by LSSJ Broli.

[dbzfan7]

I view M8 Broly as being more or less the movies equivalent of full-power Perfect Cell. So Broly can massacre all four Cell Juniors at once.

Movie 8 Broly was beaten by a SSJ Goku powered up by his fatigued friends all of whom were not as strong as there Cell Games counterparts. LSSJ Broly would get owned by Perfect Cell IMO.

That is where the term "toei punch" came from. It makes no sense how the energy from the others who can barely stand can fuel Goku enough to beat Broly. I have Full Power Perfect Cell above M8 Broly as well since Goku wasn't as strong as his Cell Games counter part. But Toei created a toei punch to end the movie. If they gave Goku there power after the senzu's healed them it would have made sense. Still I say Broly beats the Cell Juniors, but would be beaten By Cell himself. Even Moive 10 had a weird way of ending things when using Trunks.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I view M8 Broly as being more or less the movies equivalent of full-power Perfect Cell. So Broly can massacre all four Cell Juniors at once.

Movie 8 Broly was beaten by a SSJ Goku powered up by his fatigued friends all of whom were not as strong as there Cell Games counterparts. LSSJ Broly would get owned by Perfect Cell IMO.

LSSJ Broli was beaten by SSJ Goku. SSJ Goku, SSJ Gohan, SSJG2 Trunks, SSJG2 Vegeta and Piccolo were beaten by LSSJ Broli.

Broly only has to be stronger than the strongest fighter to beat all of them with relative ease. Also Trunks, mainly Trunks, and Vegeta didnt seem like they were grade 2 in that movie.