Robo4900 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:52 pmThat's a great way to just... let people get away with shouting their opinions over everyone else.
Like, that's obvious, isn't it? "Just agree with the popular opinion no matter what your opinion is" is just a horribly toxic ideology, and a deeply unsatisfying line of argument.
(I'm moving this to another thread so as to not get too off-topic in your own thread).
I agree, but that's not to me you should be saying this. What I said was to prevent from happening to her what happened to me. But you are right, we shouldn't just agree with what the majority say, in fact, I even have a saying for that:
Grimlock wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:27 am
Again, the majority of people saying or believing in someone or something does not make that someone or something real or fact.
VegettoEX wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:05 pmWhat we ask for are helpful, thoughtful posts.
Which I provide on a regular basis, just click on my number posts to see it for yourself.
VegettoEX wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:05 pmYou are free to challenge viewpoints and ask for further clarification.
Which I tried to do even in that shitshow, but when you have people who openly admit to be "
a psychopath with a pathological need to "win" arguments like they are as well as getting mad and lose their patience", then it's clear that not only that conversation was never going to be constructive, a moderation would be in order to prevent that. But of course the moderation would blame me for the way the conversation went, because why would it be any different?
If I knew I was dealing with people who are "psychopath with a pathological need to "win" arguments", I would never have even considered a conversation with them, because I know nothing good can come out of it.
VegettoEX wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:05 pmYou are not free to whine, carry on, and play the victim because you're getting called out on your attitude multiple times over by multiple people.
Me warning others not to make the mistake I did barely categorizes as "whining and playing the victim". Quite the contrary, I'm providing, as you call it, "helpful posts", in an attempt to prevent the same thing that happened to me, to happen to them. But sure, you are free to make your reality.
VegettoEX wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:05 pmThere's a lot of good conversation happening on social lately about how there's always "that one guy" who's not technically "breaking the rules" but is just a pain the absolute ass to deal with on a regular basis, and how you don't need to strictly follow the letter of the law when it comes to permanently removing them, because going by the spirit of the law is better in the long run and makes for a better environment for the 99.99999999% rest of the userbase. We don't
like doing this, but we did have to in somewhat recent memory, and I think it's fair to say it made an IMMEDIATE difference -- literally day and night.
I can only assume you are referring to
Cure Dragon 255 here, well, the difference is that I don't challenge people to a conversation every day like they created threads non-stop every day. So when you say things like "you're getting called out on your attitude multiple times over by multiple people.", it gives off the impression that I do this every day and every day I get called out. That is not what happened. That never happened at all. That only happened in that specific conversation and because I was dealing with a lot of people that think contrary to me. That does not warrant any calling out. Especially when I did challenge other people's viewpoints in the past and that never happened before.
VegettoEX wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:05 pmI don't want that to happen to you. You seem to have worthwhile things to say, a good base of information kicking around in your head, and a true love for the series. It’s clear you get something valuable and fulfilling out of being here. Maybe let's reconsider again? (This is less a request and more a final warning.)
While I thank you for those words, which are true and somewhat kind, so I greatly appreciate that, I do not care what you do with your "warnings". If you are not going to moderate this fairly, then it stands to reason things
like this, and why so many abandoned here. I will never echo opinions that I don't agree with, sometimes I will challenge viewpoints like I have always done on this forum (which you yourself witnessed and even joined in a couple of them. Sure, it may become a bit "heated" along the way, but as long as respect is there, what's the harm?) and if you are going to have a problem with that now, after nearly ten years, then do what you gotta do. But like I said before, the evidences are there and they speak for themselves. You'd just be making a martyr of myself.
And just so we are clear, the other
two times I was called out, upon reviewing I acknowledged I was wrong and apologized for it. So this is not me being "confrontational", because I know that this time I'm right and that this time I have to stand up for myself and not let any unfairness bullshit befall me.
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