"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ki Breaker]

It's okay I suppose..
There is only the problem of it making sense afterwards, on why these people with infinite potentials haven't left goku in the dust yet..
Gohan had to be written out, I would love to see what Cauliflowa is to be done with

[Dragonballgod19]

Anyways Caulifla and Kale better put in the work to take out these Super Sentai wannabes.

Brianne looking menacing and godly AF in that Itachi pose.

[Dragonballgod19]

It's okay I suppose..
There is only the problem of it making sense afterwards, on why these people with infinite potentials haven't left goku in the dust yet..
Gohan had to be written out, I would love to see what Cauliflowa is to be done with

It depends on plot you have to remember that there have been tons of characters that have infinite potential yet they still get nothing

[Ki Breaker]

It's okay I suppose..
There is only the problem of it making sense afterwards, on why these people with infinite potentials haven't left goku in the dust yet..
Gohan had to be written out, I would love to see what Cauliflowa is to be done with

It depends on plot you have to remember that there have been tons of characters that have infinite potential yet they still get nothing

That's why it's bad...
It makes no sense, it needs a reason to work like that logically..
Gohan dosen't like to fight, buu dosen't train are a few examples..
If they just randomly get stonger and randomly stop getting any, it's just plot presented in a not so subtle way

[BlueBasilisk]

It's okay I suppose..
There is only the problem of it making sense afterwards, on why these people with infinite potentials haven't left goku in the dust yet..
Gohan had to be written out, I would love to see what Cauliflowa is to be done with

In-universe I'd say it's because Goku trains and fights almost non-stop and basically lives to get stronger. Nobody else but Vegeta and maybe Caulifla do that. Trunks was keeping pace with Goku up to SS2 and now Gohan is knocking on his door with just a little intense training from Piccolo. Potential is just a plot device to keep other characters relevant. It basically was for Kid Gohan too.

Meta-wise it's just because Goku is the main character.

[Dragonballgod19]

It's okay I suppose..
There is only the problem of it making sense afterwards, on why these people with infinite potentials haven't left goku in the dust yet..
Gohan had to be written out, I would love to see what Cauliflowa is to be done with

It depends on plot you have to remember that there have been tons of characters that have infinite potential yet they still get nothing

That's why it's bad...
It makes no sense, it needs a reason to work like that logically..
Gohan dosen't like to fight, buu dosen't train are a few examples..
If they just randomly get stonger and randomly stop getting any, it's just plot presented in a not so subtle way

Yeah I agree and it also depends on popularity notice how goku and vegeta have the biggest fanbase

[Whatever]

It's okay I suppose..
There is only the problem of it making sense afterwards, on why these people with infinite potentials haven't left goku in the dust yet..
Gohan had to be written out, I would love to see what Cauliflowa is to be done with

It depends on plot you have to remember that there have been tons of characters that have infinite potential yet they still get nothing

That's why it's bad...
It makes no sense, it needs a reason to work like that logically..
Gohan dosen't like to fight, buu dosen't train are a few examples..
If they just randomly get stonger and randomly stop getting any, it's just plot presented in a not so subtle way

Its not like its the first time happening so there is no need to make sense,just because someone made huge gains once that does not mean it will happen again.
Future Gohan trained way more than the lazy present Gohan did and yet he was not even close to 17.
Present Gohan trained 3 years with ssj Goku and Piccolo yet he was far behind them.Then he did not even train for a full year in the HTC and derp he was way stronger than both of them.
Keep in mind all of those happened in the same saga.
Gohan and Buu could have been training all those years and they still would be as far behind them as they are now.
Potential never meant anything outside of a plot device way to justify fast gains,Gohan's potential was like that,Freeza's potential was like that and thats how all future potential will ever be.

[Ki Breaker]

It depends on plot you have to remember that there have been tons of characters that have infinite potential yet they still get nothing

That's why it's bad...
It makes no sense, it needs a reason to work like that logically..
Gohan dosen't like to fight, buu dosen't train are a few examples..
If they just randomly get stonger and randomly stop getting any, it's just plot presented in a not so subtle way

Its not like its the first time happening so there is no need to make sense,just because someone made huge gains once that does not mean it will happen again.
Future Gohan trained way more than the lazy present Gohan did and yet he was not even close to 17.
Present Gohan trained 3 years with ssj Goku and Piccolo yet he was far behind them.Then he did not even train for a full year in the HTC and derp he was way stronger than both of them.
Keep in mind all of those happened in the same saga.

Yup, and it's still constantly brought up because it was bad..
Just because someone happened to kick your shin once, dosen't mean it's fine to happen again..
It's been years, it's okay to make progress..

This however did help, future Gohan's bad increases were blamed on it being his future self and maybe some differences there, the second theory was him not getting a good enough teacher to teach him to grow fast..
I suppose this same explanation can be used for these new big potential characters as well..
Cauliflowa and others are progressing fast because they have the right teacher as of now, the moment they are left alone, they don't manage to make gains as big..

[Simere]

Did they say that or are these your thoughts?

You can see infinite symbol and the Potential Kanji

Didn't someone say that Goku has infinite potential in-show? I feel like one of the gods said that almost word-for-word but I can't remember who said it.

And all potential really means in-show is the ability to get stronger faster without as much work.

Champa said "His limit seems unfathomable" back in 81.

[SansrivaaL]

I think you guys are misunderstanding the potential infinite ∞ thing (but that could be me) that they put there, what I initially took it for is that it refers to the saiyans as a whole and not just a certain character, whats written when Kale popped out was ''surprising (but not just your regular SURPRISE MF! but surprising as in tremendously surprising to the point of making the heavens go WOW that moves the earth)'' the trailer was full of hype about the saiyans as a whole and how they're this incredible race thats gonna fight each other.

[Ki Breaker]

I think you guys are misunderstanding the potential infinite ∞ thing (but that could be me) that they put there, what I initially took it for is that it refers to the saiyans as a whole and not just a certain character, whats written when Kale popped out was ''surprising (but not just your regular SURPRISE MF! but surprising as in tremendously surprising to the point of making the heavens go WOW that moves the earth)'' the trailer was full of hype about the saiyans as a whole and how they're this incredible race thats gonna fight each other.

They don't seem to be fighting each other anyone though, all the spoilers indicate they either sometimes team up or go about fighting other opponents..

Anyways, nice avatar you got there, finally watched 7 deadly sins I see
Also, my 5000'th post!

[TysonWine]

Didn't someone say that Goku has infinite potential in-show? I feel like one of the gods said that almost word-for-word but I can't remember who said it.

And all potential really means in-show is the ability to get stronger faster without as much work.

During the U7 vs U9 exhibition match (Going off memory, so this isn't word for word)...
U3 Kaioshin: "Champa, who is this warrior that disrespects the Gods."
U2 GOD Helles: "And why does Zeno sama ignore his rudeness."
Champa: "I don't know. That Son Goku, his potential seems unfathomable."

Whether or not he's referring to Goku's power or ability to push a person's patience to their limit is up for interpretation, because based on what Champa was asked, I'm not sure it makes sense for him to respond with an answer about Goku's power. That's why I added the other quotes for context.

That's why it's bad...
It makes no sense, it needs a reason to work like that logically..
Gohan dosen't like to fight, buu dosen't train are a few examples..
If they just randomly get stonger and randomly stop getting any, it's just plot presented in a not so subtle way

Its not like its the first time happening so there is no need to make sense,just because someone made huge gains once that does not mean it will happen again.
Future Gohan trained way more than the lazy present Gohan did and yet he was not even close to 17.
Present Gohan trained 3 years with ssj Goku and Piccolo yet he was far behind them.Then he did not even train for a full year in the HTC and derp he was way stronger than both of them.
Keep in mind all of those happened in the same saga.

Yup, and it's still constantly brought up because it was bad..
Just because someone happened to kick your shin once, dosen't mean it's fine to happen again..
It's been years, it's okay to make progress..

This however did help, future Gohan's bad increases were blamed on it being his future self and maybe some differences there, the second theory was him not getting a good enough teacher to teach him to grow fast..
I suppose this same explanation can be used for these new big potential characters as well..
Cauliflowa and others are progressing fast because they have the right teacher as of now, the moment they are left alone, they don't manage to make gains as big..

Ki Breaker makes a very good point. Gohan and Buu still have their potential, however, their growth was stunted because their not warriors who devout time for training. Caulifla appears to want to push her limits, so if her potential is "infinite" then it doesn't make sense for her to not be massively stronger between long periods where we see her. However, this could be executed logically if she suffers an injury, is placed in a coma, etc. I also agree that just because they messed up in the past doesn't mean they should keep doing it until we're numb to it. Yes they're all Saiyans, but when one Saiyan is singled out as being hyped with infinite potential, I would hope that that means something. Will it, i doubt it.

[SansrivaaL]

I think you guys are misunderstanding the potential infinite ∞ thing (but that could be me) that they put there, what I initially took it for is that it refers to the saiyans as a whole and not just a certain character, whats written when Kale popped out was ''surprising (but not just your regular SURPRISE MF! but surprising as in tremendously surprising to the point of making the heavens go WOW that moves the earth)'' the trailer was full of hype about the saiyans as a whole and how they're this incredible race thats gonna fight each other.

They don't seem to be fighting each other anyone though, all the spoilers indicate they either sometimes team up or go about fighting other opponents..

Anyways, nice avatar you got there, finally watched 7 deadly sins I see
Also, my 5000'th post!

Vegeta was fighting Cabba (well at least supposed to be but they didnt show it) and ep 100 was literally Goku V Cauli and Goku V Kale, only one missing now without a partner is Gohan, the little turd is still playing teamwork hiding turtle with the fooders.

Watched 7DSins since it came out and been a long time fan, I also follow the manga as well and excited that S2 is coming!
congrats!

[pacz360]

I think you guys are misunderstanding the potential infinite ∞ thing (but that could be me) that they put there, what I initially took it for is that it refers to the saiyans as a whole and not just a certain character, whats written when Kale popped out was ''surprising (but not just your regular SURPRISE MF! but surprising as in tremendously surprising to the point of making the heavens go WOW that moves the earth)'' the trailer was full of hype about the saiyans as a whole and how they're this incredible race thats gonna fight each other.

So is it referring to the saiyans as a wholesome or just her

[Kishido]

I hope so much that Caulifla will show us Ikari and they will give us in an in universe explanation... Somethign they failed to give during Zamasu arc.

The transformation itself isn't the problem but the handling was piss poor

[Dragonballgod19]

I hope so much that Caulifla will show us Ikari and they will give us in an in universe explanation... Somethign they failed to give during Zamasu arc.

The transformation itself isn't the problem but the handling was piss poor

Super saiyan rage has better feats than ssb and was used better but the form itself was a asspull and wasn't explained.

[Kishido]

Can we all agree that Freeza is the most entertaining guy at the tournament?

[perucho1990]

Super saiyan rage has better feats than ssb and was used better but the form itself was a asspull and wasn't explained.

Not really aside from the Genkidama mode.

Ikari could be made canon, remember when some people were arguing that Kaioken+SSJB was a toei thing invention yet it became canon later on?

[pacz360]

I hope so much that Caulifla will show us Ikari and they will give us in an in universe explanation... Somethign they failed to give during Zamasu arc.

The transformation itself isn't the problem but the handling was piss poor

Ikari seemed to be trunks answer to blue and his owned unique form doubt your gonna have any of the u6 saiyans getting that form

[pacz360]

Super saiyan rage has better feats than ssb and was used better but the form itself was a asspull and wasn't explained.

Not really aside from the Genkidama mode.

Ikari could be made canon, remember when some people were arguing that Kaioken+SSJB was a toei thing invention yet it became canon later on?

Ikari is canon the hell are you talking about