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[nineko]

You know, "Kamehameha x10" is still a Dragon Ball GT exclusive thing to this very day. Never once has it been used anywhere else by someone else (Xeno Goku is GT Goku, so he does not count). One would imagine that Dragon Ball Daima drinking heavily from that fountain would bring that over... but nope, even as a "Super Saiyan 4", Goku continued to spam the basic old Kamehameha.

In my opinion, Kamehameha ×10 is a stupid thing and I'm happy it's been forgotten.

[JulieYBM]

I like that gorgeous, red ki move. The power of ten Kamehame-Ha in one attack? Very fun! Now, if only it had a real downside.

[Yuji]

You know, "Kamehameha x10" is still a Dragon Ball GT exclusive thing to this very day. Never once has it been used anywhere else by someone else (Xeno Goku is GT Goku, so he does not count). One would imagine that Dragon Ball Daima drinking heavily from that fountain would bring that over... but nope, even as a "Super Saiyan 4", Goku continued to spam the basic old Kamehameha.

I actually thought the return of the Kaioken was a perfect opportunity in the Super anime to bring back the move. Goku manages to concentrate the boost of the Kaioken solely into his attack, so that he avoids taking damage to his body (besides his hands, I guess). Would be a great way to give the technique an explanation and bring it organically into the new series.

[Koitsukai]

If Freeza's cells can tell Cell what Goku's plan is in regards of an attack, does it mean that Cell also has previous knowledge of Freeza's life? like his memories?
Because knowing how another person reacts to something thrown their way sure ain't the same as inherited muscle memory.

The counterargument would be that Cell had no idea he could regenerate if he hadn't seen Piccolo do it, nor he knew Goku once entered the ROSAT.

[ZeroNeonix]

So, I could be wrong, but I don't think Cell got his fighting moves from the cells in him, but from that spy bug that followed people around. I think he was just fed that data.

[bahhma]

You know, "Kamehameha x10" is still a Dragon Ball GT exclusive thing to this very day. Never once has it been used anywhere else by someone else (Xeno Goku is GT Goku, so he does not count). One would imagine that Dragon Ball Daima drinking heavily from that fountain would bring that over... but nope, even as a "Super Saiyan 4", Goku continued to spam the basic old Kamehameha.

In my opinion, Kamehameha ×10 is a stupid thing and I'm happy it's been forgotten.

I like that gorgeous, red ki move. The power of ten Kamehame-Ha in one attack? Very fun! Now, if only it had a real downside.

I just finished watching DBGT all the way through (my very first time; previously I had only seen it in bits and fragments).

After the first x10 Kamehameha, I winced every time I heard "JUBAI KAMEHAMEHA!"

[PhantomSaiyan]

I just finished watching DBGT all the way through (my very first time; previously I had only seen it in bits and fragments).

After the first x10 Kamehameha, I winced every time I heard "JUBAI KAMEHAMEHA!"

You don't like it? It's epic, one of my favorite things about GT. It might be cheesy but it's fun

[bahhma]

I just finished watching DBGT all the way through (my very first time; previously I had only seen it in bits and fragments).

After the first x10 Kamehameha, I winced every time I heard "JUBAI KAMEHAMEHA!"

You don't like it? It's epic, one of my favorite things about GT. It might be cheesy but it's fun

I think just as said here:

I like that gorgeous, red ki move. The power of ten Kamehame-Ha in one attack? Very fun! Now, if only it had a real downside.

The lack of a downside made it boring for me.

[TobyS]

The 10x kamehameha is incredibly stupid.

Any attack can be powered up as much or as little as you want, there's no default base power to multiply 10x.
It makes no sense.

Sometimes characters make new beam attacks, perhaps they are more powerful then previous attacks like vegeta replacing galick gun with final flash, final flash with gamma burst flash or whatever, like their mastery allows them to condense it more or something.

But Goku already had a super Kamehameha for when he's putting more than average power into it. You could say super kamehameha just became the default but that makes 10x more redundant when he kept the name the same before.

It's just GT trying too hard to be cool, like giving brown apes that go gold and have black hair in base.... red fur out of nowhere but keeping black hair on top.... but longer than ss1... but shorter than ss3. And red eyeliner for some reason... and make him an adult again despite base-ss3 goku already being stronger than Kamiccolo, but only making Vegeta slightly taller... just weird bullshit with no logic all round. It'd be a weird if 10x made sense in GT.

[JulieYBM]

You don't need to follow logic to do something that looks cool. Red eyeliner? Yeah, cool, awesome, life's short, be a little queer with it.

[ZeroNeonix]

Isn't x10 Kamehameha using Kaioken to power it up? Isn't that why it's red?

[JulieYBM]

Isn't x10 Kamehameha using Kaioken to power it up? Isn't that why it's red?

It's never stated to be such in the anime. I'm not sure if such a claim is made in any of the guide books, either.

[bahhma]

It's just GT trying too hard to be cool, like giving brown apes that go gold and have black hair in base.... red fur out of nowhere but keeping black hair on top.... but longer than ss1... but shorter than ss3. And red eyeliner for some reason... and make him an adult again despite base-ss3 goku already being stronger than Kamiccolo, but only making Vegeta slightly taller... just weird bullshit with no logic all round. It'd be a weird if 10x made sense in GT.

I'm with ya mostly, but I'll always give a pass for the Rule of Cool™.

My problem is, very few ki blasts in GT looked cool. Even the 10x kamehameha just looked...puny and bland. SSJ4 looks cool as hell though (buuuuuut that of course got boring after the Baby arc).

[ZeroNeonix]

The GT move I have an issue with is Final Shine. First time I heard of it, I thought it was just another name for Final Flash, because why would they make up another move with essentially the same name, but weaker sounding? Other than being green, what does Shine do different from Flash? IMO, Final Flash made a much better impression. If Cell didn't have the ability to regenerate, he'd have died right there.

[dbs fanboy]

With Dragon Ball's increasing power creep, I've always wondered why wouldn't fights be taken just in space and away from Earth? I don't think it would be too hard to find a reason, in universe as to how the characters manage to overcome this obstacle, I mean, every single villain post the Saiyan arc (besides the androids) can breath in space.

And then I realized, yeah there's now way Toriyama would have spent time inking entire pages black to portray a space battle, he already didn't want to ink Goku's hair so he turned him Super Saiyan!

[Android 50]

The 10x kamehameha is incredibly stupid.

Any attack can be powered up as much or as little as you want, there's no default base power to multiply 10x.
It makes no sense.

Sometimes characters make new beam attacks, perhaps they are more powerful then previous attacks like vegeta replacing galick gun with final flash, final flash with gamma burst flash or whatever, like their mastery allows them to condense it more or something.

But Goku already had a super Kamehameha for when he's putting more than average power into it. You could say super kamehameha just became the default but that makes 10x more redundant when he kept the name the same before.

It's just GT trying too hard to be cool, like giving brown apes that go gold and have black hair in base.... red fur out of nowhere but keeping black hair on top.... but longer than ss1... but shorter than ss3. And red eyeliner for some reason... and make him an adult again despite base-ss3 goku already being stronger than Kamiccolo, but only making Vegeta slightly taller... just weird bullshit with no logic all round. It'd be a weird if 10x made sense in GT.

Its called rule of cool. Just go with the flow.

[Yuji]

I'm reading Journey to the West via Waley's abridged translation, Monkey, and I've been quite enjoying it. I wasn't expecting it to be quite as easy to read and entertaining.

That does make me wonder, though, how Yu's version reads in comparison, since that is the unabridged, better acclaimed translation. For those who have read both, did Waley take some liberties in the prose, or is Yu's just as engaging?

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I'm reading Journey to the West via Waley's abridged translation, Monkey, and I've been quite enjoying it. I wasn't expecting it to be quite as easy to read and entertaining.

That does make me wonder, though, how Yu's version reads in comparison, since that is the unabridged, better acclaimed translation. For those who have read both, did Waley take some liberties in the prose, or is Yu's just as engaging?

I'm currently reading Yu's translation and am at chapter 14 and am finding it just as engaging, if not more because it contains all the content that was cut. I did read Waley's translation, which was a good way to get the gist of the story and breeze through it in a short space of time. I'm expecting to spend the next couple of months reading Yu's version, but as the saying goes, its not about the destination, its the journey.

[Dbzfan94]

The GT move I have an issue with is Final Shine. First time I heard of it, I thought it was just another name for Final Flash, because why would they make up another move with essentially the same name, but weaker sounding? Other than being green, what does Shine do different from Flash? IMO, Final Flash made a much better impression. If Cell didn't have the ability to regenerate, he'd have died right there.

And if Super 17 couldn’t absorb ki attacks he probably would have died too. By that logic what’s the point of any ki attack that has a name, because it’s just fired differently and maybe has a different color.

[Yellow Flower King]

How powerful would SS3 be on an Saiyan Android? This form's flaw is that it spends all your energy. Well, what would happen if you had an infinite energy drive?