"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:02 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Why are we even talking about XV3 when we could be talking about how this game can improve? It's too soon! How about we all just wait for the XV2 beta or something?
No big advancements or changes can be made to a game when it's in beta, not unless the devs delay it for a significant amount of time and even then I've never seen something like that happen. Hell, I'm surprised the game hasn't gone gold (completed development and gotten shipped away to factories for mass production) yet given its about a month away.
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Post by THEGOKU » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:18 pm

Aside from all this talk I wonder if the "Possessed" characters will have different attacks and different combos? If they went ahead and did separate slot I would have to imagine that is why.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:23 pm

THEGOKU wrote:Aside from all this talk I wonder if the "Possessed" characters will have different attacks and different combos? If they went ahead and did separate slot I would have to imagine that is why.
I'd sure hope so, but I doubt it considering Cooler seems to be a Freeza clone. There must be some reason that they wanted to put them separately, though.
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Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:38 pm

THEGOKU wrote:Aside from all this talk I wonder if the "Possessed" characters will have different attacks and different combos? If they went ahead and did separate slot I would have to imagine that is why.
Maybe they'll have some of those boss attacks from the Expert mode (Not the ones that have different mechanics to it)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:58 pm

I personally think there have been enough adjustments made to justify calling this a sequel. While, I'm a quite disappointed with the roster, I think all the finer tuning made in the terms of combat mechanics, the hub world, character customisation and tutorials, have been enough to sway me to give the game the benefit of the doubt despite it's shortcomings. I just pray that DIMPS take their time with Xenoverse 3, if it is to happen. After all, three has always been the magic number for Dragon Ball games in the past.
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Post by Shin » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:34 pm

We're back to calling this game XV 1.X now? :| I understand these complaints (SSJ hair, customization, etc.) and I'm just as disappointed with the character roster this time around as much as the next person, but a huge improvement on the roster is something we shouldn't be so persistent about this time. ESPECIALLY when Dimps themselves told us in the beginning that this installment isn't gonna be such a huge jump from the first game.

And like Lord Beerus said, there's quite a bit additions and changes that warrants this as a full sequel in terms of cosmetics and content. But at the same time... maybe I'm speaking from bias because I never play any of the characters besides my CaC.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:04 pm

Tenkaichi: "Who cares how big the roster is if they all play the same?"
Budokai: "The roster is great since everyone plays differently." (which they don't)
Xenoverse: Finally, almost everyone plays differently; "Disappointed with the roster."

Not trying to be impolite, but I don't see the logic here.
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Post by nato25 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:17 pm

Shin wrote:We're back to calling this game XV 1.X now? :| I understand these complaints (SSJ hair, customization, etc.) and I'm just as disappointed with the character roster this time around as much as the next person, but a huge improvement on the roster is something we shouldn't be so persistent about this time. ESPECIALLY when Dimps themselves told us in the beginning that this installment isn't gonna be such a huge jump from the first game.

And like Lord Beerus said, there's quite a bit additions and changes that warrants this as a full sequel in terms of cosmetics and content. But at the same time... maybe I'm speaking from bias because I never play any of the characters besides my CaC.
The developer should not be saying the sequel won't be a huge jump from the first game. That's so unambitious. And even so that doesn't make a lackluster sequel effort ok. I think XV2 does warrant the full sequel treatment but only barely which is disappointing.

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Post by THEGOKU » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:23 pm

The roster alone shouldn't make it a big difference in terms of it being better but what I think everyone is upset about at least myself is the lack of important characters. Buuhan i mean what's the point of Vegetto if he isn't in. 2nd Form cell. I mean that whole form is important to theSuper Vegeta character and Cell even becoming perfect. I can go on with other examples but I won't. Essentially they did what BT1 did for transformations and had them as separate characters. It's like taking a step backwards how many times are developers going to do this to make it seem like there are more characters because it's just a variantion. Things like that is what people are upset about in terms of the roster.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:23 pm

I know I've given the impression I hate the game pre-release but most of my expansion talk is directed at how some people are surprised its not a full blown sequel even if the title suggets otherwise.

I don't care about the Saiyan hair or the roster. I only ever play as my guy so the roster might as well be 70 versions of Goku for all the fucks I give on that subject.

My only real personnel gripe with the game is that we're replaying the fucking Z era stuff again. And we're just re-doing the XV1 thing where we're just inserting another guy or gal into crap the voice actors are sick of doing at this point (at least the dub people are according to Sabat and given how phoned in everyone was in XV1 I believe him). Seriously? Can we PLEASE get a completely original story?

Or at least make an actual alternate universe on existing events? Remember that awesome world where the RRA is fighting Piccolo and Babidi at the same time?! How about more crazy stuff like that instead of "Oh look! Raditz dodged Piccolo's attack and blew him up!" or "Oh look! Raditz dodged Piccolo's attack, causing it to kill Goku THEN he blows up Piccolo!".
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Post by Shin » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:24 pm

nato25 wrote:
Shin wrote:We're back to calling this game XV 1.X now? :| I understand these complaints (SSJ hair, customization, etc.) and I'm just as disappointed with the character roster this time around as much as the next person, but a huge improvement on the roster is something we shouldn't be so persistent about this time. ESPECIALLY when Dimps themselves told us in the beginning that this installment isn't gonna be such a huge jump from the first game.

And like Lord Beerus said, there's quite a bit additions and changes that warrants this as a full sequel in terms of cosmetics and content. But at the same time... maybe I'm speaking from bias because I never play any of the characters besides my CaC.
The developer should not be saying the sequel won't be a huge jump from the first game. That's so unambitious. And even so that doesn't make a lackluster sequel effort ok. I think XV2 does warrant the full sequel treatment but only barely which is disappointing.
We can't say they lied to us though. That's the point. It's really our fault for expecting so much after that statement was made. Also to go back to the roster discussion, we have to take into account that XV1 characters that are being brought over have all been reworked. So on top of that and adding around 15 characters isn't really "lackluster." I thought that number was pretty normal for Dragon Ball games, no?
ekrolo2 wrote:I know I've given the impression I hate the game pre-release but most of my expansion talk is directed at how some people are surprised its not a full blown sequel even if the title suggets otherwise.

I don't care about the Saiyan hair or the roster. I only ever play as my guy so the roster might as well be 70 versions of Goku for all the fucks I give on that subject.

My only real personnel gripe with the game is that we're replaying the fucking Z era stuff again. And we're just re-doing the XV1 thing where we're just inserting another guy or gal into crap the voice actors are sick of doing at this point (at least the dub people are according to Sabat and given how phoned in everyone was in XV1 I believe him). Seriously? Can we PLEASE get a completely original story?

Or at least make an actual alternate universe on existing events? Remember that awesome world where the RRA is fighting Piccolo and Babidi at the same time?! How about more crazy stuff like that instead of "Oh look! Raditz dodged Piccolo's attack and blew him up!" or "Oh look! Raditz dodged Piccolo's attack, causing it to kill Goku THEN he blows up Piccolo!".
I know we really SHOULDN'T have to do this, but if the Z retreading is an issue, you can pick up Fusions instead? I do agree with the alternate universe lore. I REALLY want them to dabble in that in the future.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:32 pm

Shin wrote:I know we really SHOULDN'T have to do this, but if the Z retreading is an issue, you can pick up Fusions instead? I do agree with the alternate universe lore. I REALLY want them to dabble in that in the future.
I only play mobile games on my phone so unless Fusions gets ported over to android, no dice on that end. The Z retreadings been the primary reason why I never bothered to play most Dragon Ball games honestly. Why should I? So I can play for a bit in-between dialogue exchanges and cutscenes of things I've got memorized better than almost any other fictional thing? What's the point of that?

That's why I was drawn to XV1 because that's the first time something a bit fresh was being done story wise. Instead of using that as a jumping off point for crazier shit I can guarantee you that for however long the XV series lasts, it'll all be barely noticeable variations of "your self-insert slightly changes things here!"

I mean, just look at the Raditz part between the two games. In XV1, Raditz dodges the beam as it kills Goku then he blows Piccolo up. In XV2 he kicks Goku away then dodges the beam before blowing Piccolo up! Seriously, that sounds like something I'd use a snarky insult to the sequel instead of how it actuall plays out.
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Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:52 pm

The last Dragon Ball video game sequel that I can think of that was actually a big step up from its predecessor was Tenkaichi 2, and that came out 10 years ago.

XV2 is what I expected it to be (from what we've seen so far at least). The game has had less than 2 years of development so I really was not expecting any huge changes. Bigger roster, more customisation options, new fighting stages, a hub world, movie plot lines in the story, a variety of side missions and new online modes. This is a anime fighting game. If the Naruto Storm games have taught me anything, it's that the only differences you'll find in a sequel is a bigger roster, new fighting stages, a new story and tweaked fighting mechanics. That is it.

XV2 is about as different as Tenkaichi 3 was from Tenkaichi 2 (which wasn't much at all) and fans fucking loved Tenkaichi 3. Seriously, just look at the comments for ANY XV2 video on YouTube, you are bound to find someone saying "I miss Tenkaichi 3. The best DBZ game ever."

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Post by Dragotaker » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:21 pm

All this roster talk makes me think about that guy who's doing the Raging Blast 3 project, the roster is fucking huge even bigger than Tenkaichi 3, the creator said that he spoke with the guys in charge of the dragon ball games and they said that if the project gets enough attention they will consider making it, I'm hoping that happens one day.

Now talking about Xenoverse 2 all i can say is that the only thing that is missing on the roster for me is Android 13, Bojack, Garlic Jr and Baby Vegeta. i would like if Hildegarn and Dr Wheelo appeared on it too but since the last game only used giants as enemies and you couldn't play as them, if that were to be the case also in the sequel i would not give a damm if they appear or not then. Of course i would be all for having more characters from the franchise in the game apart from those i mentioned the more the better ( for me at least).

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Post by HeroR » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:57 pm

I swear this thread turned into a Smash Brother discussion. I remember the same talk happening when people decried Brawl and Smash for Wii U/3DS as Melee 2.0 and Brawl 2.0 because people didn't like the roster, among other things.

Xenoverse is a sequel, not a mission pack, given all the key changes they made to the game play. The roster is another issue all together.
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Post by Ozotto » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:28 pm

I'd rather play an game where you play through dbz... But everythings different like an alternate dimension... Nappa becomes good and vegeta dies lol idk. Something like that, find the avatar character meh.

Id rather see existing characters in an alternate retelling of dbz.

Roster coulda been way better...

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Post by sintzu » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:44 pm

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:Just look at the comments for ANY XV2 video on YouTube, you are bound to find someone saying "I miss Tenkaichi 3. The best DBZ game ever."

I miss Tenkaichi 3 :cry: , the best DBZ game ever.
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Post by desu » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:50 am

This is an animated cutscene of Slug, Turles and TB Bardock from XV2, don't watch if you don't want spoilers of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGHfGDN4PWY

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Post by TobyS » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:32 am

desu wrote:This is an animated cutscene of Slug, Turles and TB Bardock from XV2, don't watch if you don't want spoilers of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGHfGDN4PWY
Awesome I can't wait to stop their evil schemes, and hopefully free Bardock from her control.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:46 am

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Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:Just look at the comments for ANY XV2 video on YouTube, you are bound to find someone saying "I miss Tenkaichi 3. The best DBZ game ever."

I miss Tenkaichi 3 :cry: , the best DBZ game ever.
I would like Tenkaichi 3 more, if it didn't have in game cut scenes for attacks which is why one of the reasons I really like XV
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