"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:19 pm

chizzielamer wrote: Goku joking about his dead brother seems inappropriately funny...
Raditz has not been mentioned since the Saiyan arc. Make that joke happen.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:21 pm

chizzielamer wrote:Goku joking about his dead brother seems inappropriately funny...
Not for Goku from Dragon Ball Super abridged.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:21 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Avery wrote: Bulma is probably the most useful female in anime history (at least until the Boo arc). She's a perfect example to prove that not being strong =/= irrelevant. I'm a girl and I don't care that much about having strong female characters. In every shonen anime I've seen they are either useless or ridiculously strong Mary Sues, the latter being a much more annoying stereotype.
I completely agree! Especially the bit about Mary Sues. It's why I kind of cringe when people ask for Bra to be some super strong SSJ. She can be strong enough to hold her own, but I'd much prefer her to take after her mother and be a prodigy in the field of engineering.
I'd love for Bra to both immensely intellectual in the field of science and engineering like her mother and also a great fighter. Not Goku level or Vegeta level of fighting prowess, but someone who can hold her own. Unfortunately, for most western fans of Dragon ball, it's the characters who scream the loudest and hit the hardest that are loved the most.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:23 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Unfortunately, for most western fans of Dragon ball, it's the characters who scream the loudest and hit the hardest that are loved the most.
Beerus doesn´t fit in that description :)
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:24 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: Unfortunately, for most western fans of Dragon ball, it's the characters who scream the loudest and hit the hardest that are loved the most.
Hmmm...and I was wondering why Broly is so popular...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Thanos » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:27 pm

It seems the speculation that time-jumping will occur is true. There isn't really any way I can imagine to link the time just after Buu to Revival of "F" without time-jumps. This pleases me.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:33 pm

Thanos wrote:It seems the speculation that time-jumping will occur is true. There isn't really any way I can imagine to link the time just after Buu to Revival of "F" without time-jumps. This pleases me.
Since we have conflicting translations on whether or not Videl is Goten's future or current sister-in-law I do wonder if it does start before BoG how are they going to time jump to post BoG? I mean when they jump over RF they don't really need to cover that story since nothing important really happens, I mean Goku and Vegeta already achieved SSGSS before that movie, but with BoG it is really the start of the entire God plot and they can't just skip over it completely. Going from pre-BoG one episode to the next starting with a short 1 minute recap of BoG would feel a little weird, so I'm not entirely sure what they can do if it starts right before BoG, I'm definitely interested to see how they handle it if it does start pre-BoG.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:34 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Unfortunately, for most western fans of Dragon ball, it's the characters who scream the loudest and hit the hardest that are loved the most.
Beerus doesn´t fit in that description :)
I know. And that's what I loved about him so much. He is pretty much an amalgamation of how much Toriyama loves to defies tropes commonly associated with Dragon Ball and the shonen genre. He doesn't scream a lot, he doesn't have any transformations, he doesn't have an overly muscular build, he rarely powers up and he's not evil for the hell of it. Beerus such a shot in the arm as far as antagonists go, it's unbelievable. He's the best thing to happen in Dragon Ball in God knows how many years.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:37 pm

It looks like they're going to cover everything that happened in those 10 years which include the events leading up to the 2008 OVA and BOG.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:41 pm

Thanos wrote:It seems the speculation that time-jumping will occur is true. There isn't really any way I can imagine to link the time just after Buu to Revival of "F" without time-jumps. This pleases me.
The first 10 episodes or so could be a mini story arc explaining what happened between the defeat of Buu and BoG, then the next episode after that could start with a recap of BoG instead of a recap of the last Super episode, and begin another story arc set between BoG and RoF.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by chizzielamer » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:41 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
chizzielamer wrote:Goku joking about his dead brother seems inappropriately funny...
Not for Goku from Dragon Ball Super abridged.
Getting abit ahead of ourselves arnt we :lol: :lol:

TFS hasnt even reached the Buu Arc yet :cry:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:46 pm

sintzu wrote:It looks like they're going to cover everything that happened in those 10 years which include the events leading up to the 2008 OVA and BOG.
And I'm perfectly fine with that, as long as we get good stories.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hujio » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:47 pm

soulnova wrote:The other translation states Videl is soon-to-be sister in law. Any comment on that?
Sorry, that was an oversight on our part. It does indeed say "soon-to-be sister-in-law". The post has been corrected to reflect this.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:47 pm

なんだと!Can you say "it's dialogue from the VJump comic adaption!--I think?". :mrgreen:
Disclaimer: I do not actually know if that's what this is, but here's the source link:
http://hayabusa6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ ... 434413942/

I'm no good with kanji, but if I read this right,Gokû tries to utilize Mr. Satan to get money so he won't have to farm vegetables anymore.
EDIT: No wait, I think Mr. Satan actually shows up to give Gokû money that he (Mr. Satan) was awarded for saving the world from Buu.
突如現れた史上最強の敵魔人ブウ
その圧倒的な力の前に地球は絶体絶命のピンチに見舞われた
しかしサタンの呼びかけで遂に全宇宙の元気を集めたスーパー元気玉が完成
遂に悟空は魔人ブウを倒し地球は平和を取り戻した
それからしばらくの月日が流れた・・・ ここまでナレーション
退屈そうにトラクターを動かす悟空
悟空「ふわぁあ・・・」
悟天「おとうさーん
   弁当だよー」
悟空「おう 悟天
   なんだ学校はもう終わったのか?」
悟天「今日は日曜日だよ」
悟空「休みか・・・
   じゃあちょっとかわりにこいつ運転してくれ」
悟天「いいけど・・・」
弁当を食べる悟空
悟空「ぷはーっ
   食った食った!!
   ごちそうさまでした―――!!!」
悟空「よし!!!」
超サイヤ人化
目を瞑るとイメージのフリーザが襲ってくる
一撃を軽くかわし、顔面に一撃、フリーザの顔破裂
間髪入れずセルが気弾を溜める
悟空、即座にチャージ中の腕を取り、悟天視点に変更し3コマ格闘
左の拳でセルの顔を破裂させる
その破片の先に魔人ブウ(純粋)登場
悟空、スッっとかまえブウに突撃しようとするも悟天のトラクターが転落
悟空、即座に悟天とトラクターを支える
悟空「悟天 ちゃんと運転しねぇと修行に集中できねぇだろ」
悟天「おとうさん修行してたの?」
悟空「ああ
   いつまたブウみてぇな強えぇ敵が現れっかわかんねぇからな!
   そんときにそなえて修行しとかねぇと」
悟天「ふーん」
悟空、トラクターを投げて崖上に戻す
悟空「ほんとはさ 界王様のとことか行って修行してぇんだが・・・
   チチがちゃんと働いてお金稼げってうるせぇからな」
悟天「世界一強いのはお母さんかもしれないね!」
悟空「ハハハ」
悟天「牛魔王のおじちゃんちにももうお金ないみたいだしね
   でもお母さんがおとうさんだったらもっと儲かる仕事があるって言ってたよ
   ミスター・サタンみたいに」
悟空「オラはこうしてさぼりながら修行するのが好きなんだよ」
車が空からやってくる
サタン「悟空さーん」
悟空「おー ウワサをすればミスター・サタンじゃねぇか!」

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宇宙 とある惑星
ビルス、目の前の料理を物色し、あくび
その星のトップらしき生物「さぁさぁさぁ!
             早く持ってきなさい
             ビルス様 どうぞお召し上がり下さいませ!
             どれもこの星のシェフが腕によりを掛けて作った一品にございます」
ビルス「これがね~」
食事開始、毒のビンを後ろに持つシェフらしき生物
食事の様子を見降ろすウイス(恐らく見ただけで毒に気付いている)
ビルス、食糧を飲み込む
やったという顔をするその星のトップらしき生物
ビルス「美味しいんじゃない?
    塩加減も絶妙でボク好みの味だ」
その星のトップらしき生物「へ?
             あ・・・そ・・・そうですか!それはヨカッタ・・・!」
ビルス「ところでキミは・・・
    ボクがそんな毒なんかでやられると本気で思ったのか?」
その星のトップらしき生物「はっ!!!」
驚く他の生物
溜息をつくウイス
その星のトップらしき生物「ど・・・毒だなんてとんでもない!
             お口にあいませんでしたかな?
             それであればこちらのスープ・ヤサイ・ジンコットはいかがでしょう・・・!」
ビルス「・・・!スープ・・・ヤサイ・・・ジン・・・?」
その星のトップらしき生物「こちらのスープは口当たりもなめらかで・・・」
ビルス「あー もういいもういい
    残念だったね やっぱりこの星は破壊することにしたよ」
その星のトップらしき生物「く・・・くそ!こ・・・こうなったら・・・!」
銃をかまえる生物達
ビルス、爪先から光弾を出し、一瞬で星を破壊
ウイス「結局予定通りに破壊してしまいましたね」
ビルス「ああ あんな連中いつまでも生かしておけないからね
    それに思い出したんだよ
    夢で見たアイツのことを」
ウイス「夢?ですか?」

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地球
悟空「い・・・!!!
   1億ゼニーオラにくれるって!!?」
サタン「実はですね
    この度私世界平和大賞というのを頂きましてね
    ほら 私が世界を救ったってことが続いたじゃないですか
    それで特別に賞金をもらったんですよ
    ・・・でもこの賞金はホントはあなたたちが貰うべきだ
    それでお届けに」
悟空「いらねぇよ!そんな金」
サタン「ま まぁそうおっしゃらずに!」
悟空「オラだけで闘ったわけじゃねぇしな・・・
   あんただってちゃんとそれなりに闘ったじゃねぇか
   ・・・なぁ
   1億ゼニーってのは10万ゼニーがいくつだ?」
サタン「え?10万ゼニーですか?
    えーと・・・1000ですね」
悟空「1000!!!!!
   10万ゼニーが1000もか!!
   やっぱいらねぇよそんな恐ろしい大金は」
悟天「おとうさんもらっておけば?
   お金があれば働かなくて済むし
   お母さんも界王様のところに行くの許してくれるよきっと」
悟空「そうか!?・・・でもな・・・」
サタン「悟空さん 悟天くんもこう言ってくれてることですし・・・」
悟空「う~~むむむ・・・・・・・・・
   ・・・・・・・・・
   うんわかった!
   じゃあもらっちゃうぞ!」
サタン「おおっ!!よかった!!」
悟空「ホントにいいのか?サンキュー!」
サタン「あの・・・その代わりと言ってはなんですけど
    このことはくれぐれもナイショに・・・」
悟空、オッケーサイン、悟天、グーサイン

宇宙
ウイス「それではその予知夢に出てきた誰かさんを思い出したと?」
ビルス「そうだ このボクを楽しませてくれる究極の戦士
    ソイツの名前は スーパーサイヤ人ゴッド」
ウイス「スーパーサイヤ人 ゴッド・・・」
ビルス「・・・だったような・・・違ったような・・・」
ウイス「やれやれ
    戻ってゆっくり思い出しましょう」
ビルス「そうしよう・・・」

界王神の星
キビト神「ご先祖様星がひとつ消えましたね・・・」
老界王神「う~~む・・・・・・嫌な予感がするわい・・・」

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:52 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Thanos wrote:It seems the speculation that time-jumping will occur is true. There isn't really any way I can imagine to link the time just after Buu to Revival of "F" without time-jumps. This pleases me.
The first 10 episodes or so could be a mini story arc explaining what happened between the defeat of Buu and BoG, then the next episode after that could start with a recap of BoG instead of a recap of the last Super episode, and begin another story arc set between BoG and RoF.
I think 10 episodes pre-BoG is pretty excessive, that's 2 and a half months of episodes, that's plenty of time to lose viewers who get bored because it's not getting to the Gods stuff. The fact that they are already advertising Beerus and "Fat Beerus" tells me they are planning to get past BoG really quick.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:54 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Thanos wrote:It seems the speculation that time-jumping will occur is true. There isn't really any way I can imagine to link the time just after Buu to Revival of "F" without time-jumps. This pleases me.
The first 10 episodes or so could be a mini story arc explaining what happened between the defeat of Buu and BoG, then the next episode after that could start with a recap of BoG instead of a recap of the last Super episode, and begin another story arc set between BoG and RoF.
I think 10 episodes pre-BoG is pretty excessive, that's 2 and a half months of episodes, that's plenty of time to lose viewers who get bored because it's not getting to the Gods stuff. The fact that they are already advertising Beerus and "Fat Beerus" tells me they are planning to get past BoG really quick.
I just wanna get past the immediately-post-Buu stuff real quick. Now that BOG and F exist, I've lost most of my interest in immediately-post-Buu; that era's existed since the manga ended; BOG and F have only been around a couple years and are way more fresh.

Like, when we were all still BOG-speculating, I really wanted to see Gohan and Videl's wedding; now I just don't care. I want to see those other universes and alternate!Beerus and alternate!Whis.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:57 pm

Yeah, there's no need for such a long arc, especially if the writing and directing is tight. Two or three episodes are more than enough, especially if multiple character storylines occur in a single episode.

So, this is before Kami to Kami, too. Hmm...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by chizzielamer » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:00 pm

Chuquita wrote:なんだと!Can you say "it's dialogue from the VJump comic adaption!--I think?". :mrgreen:
Disclaimer: I do not actually know if that's what this is, but here's the source link:
http://hayabusa6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ ... 434413942/

What?! This is for the first episode right?!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:01 pm

The first chapter; yes, if I read it correctly and if the source is true.
JulieYBM wrote:Yeah, there's no need for such a long arc, especially if the writing and directing is tight. Two or three episodes are more than enough, especially if multiple character storylines occur in a single episode.

So, this is before Kami to Kami, too. Hmm...
The only thing I can think of is they're trying to calm-before-the-storm/familiarize people with the characters' quirks who are new to watching Dragon Ball?
But that feels like starting out with filler. :( You can't start out with filler and expect to retain a big audience. I cared about the farming stuff back in 2009 when it was fresh; it's 6 years later I don't care about that now. I'd half-expect Funi to pull a GT and "lost episodes" this arc if that was the sort of thing they still did.

*Frustrated sigh.*

As long as it's entertaining filler it won't be that bad, I guess. The cute scarf is still cute, so there's that at least.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:02 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:The fact that they are already advertising Beerus and "Fat Beerus" tells me they are planning to get past BoG really quick.
...or maybe the story jumps between slice of life Z fighters and Beerus and Whis' back story, which includes fat Beerus.

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