Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Savage68 » Sun May 29, 2011 7:47 pm

astrallite wrote:They created a series called Infinite Crisis where all the supermen in parallel universes were thrown together, and the one with silver age powers (Superman Prime) basically solo'ed the entire DC universe lol.
Superboy-Prime didn't have Silver Age powers (he debuted in the Bronze Age). His body just metabolizes sunlight at a much more efficient rate than most other Supermen, and on top of that, he doesn't go around restraining his powers like most other Supermen.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Kaboom » Sun May 29, 2011 7:52 pm

The only character in the Dragon Ball universe who could conceivably take down Silver-Age Superman is Arale. Because she's pretty much the same character.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun May 29, 2011 9:27 pm

Bussani wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:Wait couldnt most of these be considered gag feats? Since well...he's not fighting anybody in most of the scans and the feeling I got after reading those pages almost made me feel like I was watching Popeye or some thing along those lines.
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Well my reasoning for bringing that up is that many people like to claim that "Goku cant breath in space so all Superman would have to do is carry him into the depths of space and watch him sufficate." But as I remember Goku as a kid was in space just fine when sending Boss Rabbit and his goons to the moon and that is clearly a gag feat yet people disclaim it almost all the time.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Fox666 » Sun May 29, 2011 9:48 pm

Didn't Superman needed a space suit in space? I don't know much about old comics :?

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Savage68 » Sun May 29, 2011 9:53 pm

He can hold his breath for a "super" long amount of time. The only instances where I've seen him wear a suit in outer space is to combat incoming Kryptonite asteroids (yes, it's happened more than once). But I think everyone's mistaken in arguing over anyone breathing in space... because no one can breathe in space. There's no oxygen out there. :(

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Xyex » Sun May 29, 2011 10:09 pm

Savage68 wrote:He can hold his breath for a "super" long amount of time. The only instances where I've seen him wear a suit in outer space is to combat incoming Kryptonite asteroids (yes, it's happened more than once). But I think everyone's mistaken in arguing over anyone breathing in space... because no one can breathe in space. There's no oxygen out there. :(
Not all aliens breathe oxygen.

And besides that, there is oxygen, and other gases, in space. Just extremely miniscule trace amounts. :P
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Savage68 » Sun May 29, 2011 10:13 pm

Xyex wrote:Not all alien's breathe oxygen.
Oh. Well... Superman does, and I'm pretty sure Goku does too. They're who I was focusing on more than anyone else.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Super Sonic » Sun May 29, 2011 11:00 pm

I have an interesting thought. The Ginyu Force vs the Seven Warlords of the Sea. Think Ginyu might come on top, but then again, the Warlords aren't to be underestimated, hence how they achieved their titles.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Bussani » Sun May 29, 2011 11:04 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:Well my reasoning for bringing that up is that many people like to claim that "Goku cant breath in space so all Superman would have to do is carry him into the depths of space and watch him sufficate." But as I remember Goku as a kid was in space just fine when sending Boss Rabbit and his goons to the moon and that is clearly a gag feat yet people disclaim it almost all the time.
Probably because it goes against what's clearly established later in Dragon Ball. Freeza being able to survive in space while Saiyans can't was the whole reason Freeza was fine with blowing up Namek.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by hleV » Mon May 30, 2011 7:17 am

I'd really want this thread to be moved to some other section of the forums. Don't know if it's just me, but I don't like seeing DB characters being compared to something which is not DB related in any way. This thread disturbs me @_@.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Rocketman » Tue May 31, 2011 12:55 am

Kaboom wrote:The only character in the Dragon Ball universe who could conceivably take down Silver-Age Superman is Arale. Because she's pretty much the same character.
Vegetto can kill gag characters.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Kaboom » Tue May 31, 2011 1:11 am

Well, there was really no point mentioning Vegetto. He's the persistent exception to all the rules.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:00 pm

Fox666 wrote:Didn't Superman needed a space suit in space? I don't know much about old comics :?
I think that was in the DCAU where in the 90's cartoon series that he need a space suit to travel in space to go after Lobo. I remember Superman being in space just fine many times before in most post-crisis Superman comics.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by astrallite » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:39 pm

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astrallite wrote:They created a series called Infinite Crisis where all the supermen in parallel universes were thrown together, and the one with silver age powers (Superman Prime) basically solo'ed the entire DC universe lol.
Superboy-Prime didn't have Silver Age powers (he debuted in the Bronze Age). His body just metabolizes sunlight at a much more efficient rate than most other Supermen, and on top of that, he doesn't go around restraining his powers like most other Supermen.
There are other kryptonians that don't restrain their powers, and they don't have the capability around beating up half of DCU, including an army of other kryptonians.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Savage68 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:40 pm

And those other Kryptonians would have no reason to fight half the DCU, and couldn't anyway because of that whole "metabolizes sunlight" thing I mentioned.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by astrallite » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:25 am

Savage68 wrote:And those other Kryptonians would have no reason to fight half the DCU, and couldn't anyway because of that whole "metabolizes sunlight" thing I mentioned.
Superboy Prime isn't stronger than other Kryptonians but he metabolizes sunlight more efficiently?

How does "metabolizing sunlight efficiently" help him beat up an army of Kryptonians, Anti-Monitor, Ion, Justice League, and countless others if it doesn't make him stronger?

So SSJ3 Goku at his Buu Arc Power Level would be able to beat Buuhan...if he could metabolize food better, right?

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Post by Nazi Cola » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:45 am

goku the krump dancer wrote:Well my reasoning for bringing that up is that many people like to claim that "Goku cant breath in space so all Superman would have to do is carry him into the depths of space and watch him sufficate." But as I remember Goku as a kid was in space just fine when sending Boss Rabbit and his goons to the moon and that is clearly a gag feat yet people disclaim it almost all the time.
Goku needed a space suit on his way to Namek to fix his ship. Or was that filler?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:52 am

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Kaboom wrote:The only character in the Dragon Ball universe who could conceivably take down Silver-Age Superman is Arale. Because she's pretty much the same character.
Vegetto can kill gag characters.
Yeah. Vegetto's kind of a gag character. He survived being turned into chocolate and still managed to whoop Boo's ass.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Bussani » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:25 am

Nazi Cola wrote:Goku needed a space suit on his way to Namek to fix his ship. Or was that filler?
That was filler. But Freeza says that Saiyans can't survive in space like he can and tries to blow up Namek with that in mind. Kaio also says that Goku would die instantly if they tried wishing him back to life, since he'd appear where Namek used to be.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Savage68 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:30 am

astrallite wrote:Superboy Prime isn't stronger than other Kryptonians but he metabolizes sunlight more efficiently?
No one said he wasn't stronger than them. I said he metabolizes sunlight more efficiently than them and hasn't ever been taught to restrain his power (which that army of Kryptonians you mentioned, you know, has just last year or thereabouts), making him doubly threatening to "half the DCU," because he's all about being super strong and super nuts.

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