The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Kaioshin vs SS Future Trunks (Cell Games)

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

I would say Shin because he was able to hold down SSJ2 World Tournament Gohan with telekinesis.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Kaioshin. I think his techniques are good enough to give him the advantage in the battle.

[DBZAOTA482]

But Kaioshin isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed since he apparently thinks letting Spopovich and Yamu steal a tanker-full of Gohan's energy is a good idea (which is literally hindering from his objective).

I give this round to SSJ Trunks (Cell Games).

[Kaboom]

Trunks has lots of power, Kaioshin has lots of freaky abilities, and both have a tendency to overreact and make dumb decisions. This battle can easily go either way.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But Kaioshin isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed since he apparently thinks letting Spopovich and Yamu steal a tanker-full of Gohan's energy is a good idea (which is literally hindering from his objective).

The plan wasn't that bad. And how is this related to the fight? Trunks & Vegeta have made many stupid things through the series (more stupid than Kaioshin's plan).

[DBZAOTA482]

But Kaioshin isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed since he apparently thinks letting Spopovich and Yamu steal a tanker-full of Gohan's energy is a good idea (which is literally hindering from his objective).

The plan wasn't that bad. And how is this related to the fight? Trunks & Vegeta have made many stupid things through the series (more stupid than Kaioshin's plan).

But most, if not all, those stupid decisions were due to either impulsion or at the heat of the moment. Kaioshin's "plan" was rationally thought out and besides, Kaioshin is weaker than Piccolo.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Kaioshin is weaker than Piccolo.

That's your opinion. The manga & Daizenshuu say the opposite (though it's true that it's debatable).

[Mystic Gohan]

I say SSjin Trunks takes this one rather easily myself. Kaioshin fears Pui-Pui, while Vegeta effortlessly takes him down. Mind you, that was base Vegeta. While the
Saiyans did get stronger over the seven years of peace, they are not too far ahead of Kid Gohan, let alone surpassing there previous SSjin forms.

[Saiga]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I say SSjin Trunks takes this one rather easily myself. Kaioshin fears Pui-Pui, while Vegeta effortlessly takes him down. Mind you, that was base Vegeta. While the
Saiyans did get stronger over the seven years of peace, they are not too far ahead of Kid Gohan, let alone surpassing there previous SSjin forms.

Kaioshin wasn't going to fight with Pui Pui or Yakon, so it doesn't make sense for him to be afraid that he would get killed. He was afraid that the Saiyans, who wanted to fight alone, would get damaged and transfer energy to Majin Boo, since he didn't know how powerful they were at that point. He was extremely cautious, and extremely panicked, and he didn't even know how strong Pui Pui & Yakon were, because he had only heard rumors about them, and they should now be stronger than the rumors say, because Babidi has the habit to draw his slave's dormant power beyond its limits.

[DBZAOTA482]

But can't he sense ki?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But can't he sense ki?

Even though the Saiyans hadn't shown their full power, he had seen SS2 Gohan in the tournament, and they told him that they were above this level. So I guess the whole "DANGER DANGER, MAJIN BOO IS GONNA BE REBORN WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE HE IS TERRIFYING LOLOLOL", along with his stupidity, clouded his mind, and lost all logic.

I has happened before again, like when Piccolo & Kuririn (panicked because supposedly Gohan couldn't beat Cell) thought that SS Gohan was dead when Cell... knocked him in some rocks (soooo dangerous). Goku, who was the only one calm noticed that Gohan's ki hadn't changed at all.

[dbzfan7]

Kaioshin vs SS Future Trunks (Cell Games)

Depends. Kaioshin can restrain him, but can he attack Trunks for any severe damage. Some people classify Grade 3 as stronger then SSJ2 but much slower so if that were the case he wouldn't hold trunks for long and he would win. If Grade 3 is stronger then SSJ2 I say Trunks can pull off the victory. I think Grade 3 isn't stronger then SSJ2 but is close to it so I still say Trunks can pull it off.

[Mystic Gohan]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

I don't think magical powers are going to help you against someone that superior to you. I mean, look at what Piccolo did to Babidi, even though Babidi had fearsome magic by Kaioshin's own admission.

[Insertclevername]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

Better fighting prowess I suppose.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

I don't think magical powers are going to help you against someone that superior to you. I mean, look at what Piccolo did to Babidi, even though Babidi had fearsome magic by Kaioshin's own admission.

Kaioshin isn't known for any great fighting skills, but Bobbidi definitely isn't a combatant. Also, I recall Kaioshin or Kibito saying the biggest advantage Bobbidi had was the fact that he wasn't someone you could fight if you had any kind of evil within you or something along those lines. Honestly, I think Kaioshin wouldn't even need to stop his movement, since I see his eyes kiai attack taking Trunks out pretty quickly.

[Mystic Gohan]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

I don't think magical powers are going to help you against someone that superior to you. I mean, look at what Piccolo did to Babidi, even though Babidi had fearsome magic by Kaioshin's own admission.

Kaioshin isn't known for any great fighting skills, but Bobbidi definitely isn't a combatant. Also, I recall Kaioshin or Kibito saying the biggest advantage Bobbidi had was the fact that he wasn't someone you could fight if you had any kind of evil within you or something along those lines. Honestly, I think Kaioshin wouldn't even need to stop his movement, since I see his eyes kiai attack taking Trunks out pretty quickly.

I believe that line is only present, because of the majin hocus pocus he can do.

[Saiga]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

Better fighting prowess I suppose.

The Android/Cell saga show that he doesn't really have that, though. He's inexperienced.

[DBZAOTA482]

I think Kaioshin is stronger than Trunks, and also has some freaky abilities that could be put to good use. If he created a huge attack and then lobbed it at Trunks while holding him in place with his powers, what's Trunks going to do about it?

Better fighting prowess I suppose.

The Android/Cell saga show that he doesn't really have that, though. He's inexperienced.

Trunks can write a M on his head with marker, and Kaioshin will shit his pants.