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by SparkyPantsMcGee » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:08 pm
Mountain wrote:I don't see why dub fans are so bummed out with the few changes. It's quite obvious that FUNimation is going for the same sound, regardless of voice actor. I mean, Sabat even said that the new Bulma sounds "JUST" like the old one, "only better!" Also, I'm sure the new Gohan will be better, but not drastically different.
As disappointing as this may be to me, it shouldn't upset fans of the current dub. I'm confused.
It's change. I'm sure Ocean fans were upset to see a cast change during season 3. It's basically the same concept. I think it is dumb to protest something different without even sampling it first, but
Penguintruth has a point. This is the internet, people will make a big stink of things, form protests and denounce their fandom, but come release day they'll be the first ones in line. Want proof, look at L4D2.
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by Kendamu » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:29 pm
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:It's change. I'm sure Ocean fans were upset to see a cast change during season 3. It's basically the same concept. I think it is dumb to protest something different without even sampling it first, but Penguintruth has a point. This is the internet, people will make a big stink of things, form protests and denounce their fandom, but come release day they'll be the first ones in line. Want proof, look at L4D2.
Reminds me of a statement I recently read online about the Kai dub cast:
"HOW COULD THEY! D: Colleen Clinkenbeard as Gohan and Monica Rial as Bulma?!?! FUCK YOU DB KAI! FUCK YOU!! ='("
I remember being mad when the Ocean Group was dropped in favor of a local in-house cast so statements like the above really tickle me. It's not that I enjoy others' pain or anything, but it's funny when people who like the in-house FUNi cast look at us old guys like we're crazy for liking Ocean Group and then I turn around and read something like this.
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by obiwan23s » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:31 pm
Really bummed that Freeza didn't get recast but if they pull off a straight enough script then it might not be intolerable.
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by LeprikanGT » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:17 pm
What's the deal with hating Frieza's US voice actor? Its not like they were trying to MATCH the voice.
It gives him a distinct and standout voice.
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by B » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:18 pm
LeprikanGT wrote:What's the deal with hating Freeza's US voice actor? Its not like they were trying to MATCH the voice.
It gives him a distinct and standout voice.
This is not the thread for this. And, personally, I think you know very well why people have a problem with it.
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by DemonRin » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:57 pm
Damnit! Linda Young confirmed for Freeza... Fuck, FUNimation Why?! Why must you ALWAYS make decisions that screw up any English version of Dragon Ball you do?!
You already have dubbies swearing off of Kai for replacing Gohan, you might as well cater to the fans who have been holding out or a serious dub and recast the worst voice choice you've ever made!
Oh well, I'll try out the Saiyan arc then, I'll watch Freeza in Japanese, but I'll check out the Saiyan arc.
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by Undercooked Sausage » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:20 am
keeping Linda Young ensures I'm not going to bother with the dub whatsoever in the Freeza Saga, so much for enjoying my favorite arc in english :/
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by Greenman » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:29 am
It sounds like his voice is breaking up there.
EDIT: During the second "me."
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by penguintruth » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:30 am
Yikes. Let's hope he does better than that in the show.
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by Amigo Ten » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:33 am
What was wrong with it?
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by penguintruth » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:34 am
Amigo Ten wrote:What was wrong with it?
Same overly-rough constipation sound to it.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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by Kaboom » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:35 am
It sounded like a guy yelling.
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by Metalwario64 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:35 am
penguintruth wrote:Amigo Ten wrote:What was wrong with it?
Same overly-rough constipation sound to it.
At least he doesn't sound like a dying snake like Nozawa does in Kai...
(Of course it's obviously due to her age, but still. I wasn't the only person to notice it either.)
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by penguintruth » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:36 am
Kaboom wrote:It sounded like a guy yelling.
Sounded like a guy who isn't Goku yelling.
Metalwario64 wrote:At least he doesn't sound like a dying snake like Nozawa does in Kai... (Of course it's obviously due to her age, but still. I wasn't the only person to notice it either.)
She's still infinitely better.
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Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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by Amigo Ten » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:36 am
What do you mean? It sounds like a voice should sound when shouting. It's not like Nozawa is any more harmonious when yelling Kamehameha, she's just higher because her voice for Goku is higher in general.
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by SparkyPantsMcGee » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:41 am
That's it? Ohhhh I want more. Why are people making a stink about the yelling? It's fine. Some people are just
too picky.
Undercooked Sausage wrote:keeping Linda Young ensures I'm not going to bother with the dub whatsoever in the Freeza Saga, so much for enjoying my favorite arc in english :/
See I don't like comments like these because I believe you should at least give something a chance before casting it aside. She may not be the best Freeza in the world but I think with the right direction she can pull the voice off nicely. I believe you should wait till AFTER her performance before
judging what could be a nice performance. Sure her past performance from ten years ago wasn't great but then again that's ten years ago. Funimation has changed, and I don't think we should cast judgment until we actually get a taste of the new Kai.
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by penguintruth » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:43 am
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Some people are just too picky.
And some people are too easy to impress.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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by Metalwario64 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:48 am
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Why are people making a stink about the yelling?
Because people don't yell or grunt when strained; they make a
KKKKKKKCCCKCHHCCKKYEE
EKKKKKUAAAHH!!!? sound.
It's not just for "gathering ki" either; Zelgadiss did that once in the Japanese version of Slayers when he got pissed off, so yeah. I do that when I get pissed off or when I'm bench pressing weights, so I can vouch that people naturally do that in real life.
Oh well, at least he doesn't say "WEEEEEEEE" like they do in the Thai dub.
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by DbzFanboy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:51 am
Here's a good question: will this recast be carried into other future dubbing of dragon ball media? If they do decide to dub 'Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return' or 'Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans,' will they use the new dubbing cast from Kai??
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