Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:18 pm

Even in the original Dragon Ball, it was always implied that Shinhan was his last name.

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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by funrush » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:08 pm

Yep, but they've been referring to him as Tien for 99% of the dub now, so...

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Post by Attitudefan » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:11 am

It should be Tien Shinhan at the very least as it was done in DragonBall.
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by saiyanprimalforce » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:06 am

I really don't see the big deal about that--or Tri-Beam. In the latter case, at least it makes sense, like Solar Flare. Special Beam Cannon or Destructo Disc, on the other hand make me want to vomit.

I mean, hey, at least Tien is close to his original name(pretty much a shorthand), and not something unrelated like Shinto. . . :lol:
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by Attitudefan » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:31 am

saiyanprimalforce wrote:I really don't see the big deal about that--or Tri-Beam. In the latter case, at least it makes sense, like Solar Flare. Special Beam Cannon or Destructo Disc, on the other hand make me want to vomit.

I mean, hey, at least Tenshinhan is close to his original name(pretty much a shorthand), and not something unrelated like Shinto. . . :lol:
Or like "Hero".

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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by batistabus » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:47 pm

I don't know why they didn't change it to Tenshinhan. If you say Tee-en Shinhan fast enough, you can barely tell the difference. They should've slowly transitioned like they did with Ayres at first.

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Post by funrush » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:31 pm

Because Tien is only two syllables, Tenshinhan is three, I think this way it's easier for them to fit the words with the flaps correctly.

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Post by Attitudefan » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:15 pm

And Ten is one syllable so it would be even easier again to add more dialogue to the flaps.
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Post by batistabus » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:48 am

Yeah, that, and the fact that they don't shorten most other character's names (except Son), and everything works out fine.

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Post by Rocketman » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:39 am

Attitudefan wrote:And Ten is one syllable so it would be even easier again to add more dialogue to the flaps.
Tien sounds Asian (Tien Shen mountain range, for example). Ten sounds like he's the younger brother of Five from Peanuts.

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Post by AgitoZ » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:06 pm

Rocketman wrote:Tien sounds Asian (Tien Shen mountain range, for example).
But Dragon Ball doesn't take place in the real world...
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Post by batistabus » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:45 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Tien sounds Asian (Tien Shen mountain range, for example).
But Dragon Ball doesn't take place in the real world...
...so? What does that have to do with anything?

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Post by AgitoZ » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:06 pm

batistabus wrote:...so? What does that have to do with anything?
Why does it matter if a name sounds Asian in a show doesn't take place on our Earth? Although, I think he was putting in much more thought than FUNi did.
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Post by batistabus » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:51 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
batistabus wrote:...so? What does that have to do with anything?
Why does it matter if a name sounds Asian in a show doesn't take place on our Earth? Although, I think he was putting in much more thought than FUNi did.
Because Toriyama specifically designed various Dragon Ball characters and names around the notion that they would come off as Chinese.

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Post by Attitudefan » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:31 pm

batistabus wrote:
AgitoZ wrote:
batistabus wrote:...so? What does that have to do with anything?
Why does it matter if a name sounds Asian in a show doesn't take place on our Earth? Although, I think he was putting in much more thought than FUNi did.
Because Toriyama specifically designed various Dragon Ball characters and names around the notion that they would come off as Chinese.
I guess that's true that Tien sounds more asian but It is an unnecessary change by FUNi that is being discussed on another thread. His name is Ten, no matter how stupid it may sound to the English speaking world, but if we had got that first it everyone would be used to it by now. This is just another slap in the face to Dragonball by changing everything around to FUNi's liking, making it their own show instead of Toriyama's story. Gosh!
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by bkev » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:24 pm

I think there was a daizex podcast that briefly alluded to the idea that retaining the name-change for Ten had to do with copyright... I didn't listen to it myself so I can't summarize it too well aside from that.
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by batistabus » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:09 pm

bkev wrote:I think there was a daizex podcast that briefly alluded to the idea that retaining the name-change for Ten had to do with copyright... I didn't listen to it myself so I can't summarize it too well aside from that.
I get that, but that's why I suggested just saying Tee-en Shinhan quickly (Tyenshinhan). Obviously, Ten or Tenshinhan would be preferred.

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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by Attitudefan » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:21 pm

bkev wrote:I think there was a daizex podcast that briefly alluded to the idea that retaining the name-change for Ten had to do with copyright... I didn't listen to it myself so I can't summarize it too well aside from that.
Link please?

Why is Ten copyright? It's just a number for god sakes! Really, what's the harm with calling him Ten Shinhan?
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by AgitoZ » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:23 pm

Attitudefan wrote:Why is Ten copyright? It's just a number for god sakes! Really, what's the harm with calling him Ten Shinhan?
I think he(she?) means Tien. If I recall it was when they were talking about the fighting games and mentioned the characters name having copyright and rights reserved marks next to them.
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discuss

Post by Attitudefan » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:39 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:Why is Ten copyright? It's just a number for god sakes! Really, what's the harm with calling him Ten Shinhan?
I think he(she?) means Tenshinhan. If I recall it was when they were talking about the fighting games and mentioned the characters name having copyright and rights reserved marks next to them.
Hmm, strange.

Well Ten could go by just fine yes? Would Ten Shinhan fall under the same field of copyright when it's separate you think?
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