Kai Blu-Ray Release

Deep Thought · Post by **Deep Thought** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:06 am

Woah, this looks mildly interesti-

"Amazon Japan has it with a list price of ¥16,960 (~$173) but with a decent pre-order price of ¥11,810 (~$120)."

New; (~$173)

Pre-order; (~$120)

For nine episodes. Nine fifteen minute episodes that have been cleaned up a little.

I could buy the Alien Quadrilogy, the Looney Toons Golden Collection, and Dragon Ball Z Season 9, and still have twenty dollars left.

And I'm only comparing that to the pre-order of $120, forgot the retail price of $173.

These beats probably have some insane shipping fee, probably making them $200. Assuming that the next set is the same price, that would be $400 if you ordered them individually. As much as a Playstation 3, brand new. I think that the Dragon Ball franchise has a lot of worth, but I wouldn't say that 18 episodes are equal in worth to a Playstation 3.

If Kai has 153 episodes, then that's would be about $3400 for the series, assuming that they keep this insane price up. Three thousand, four hundred dollars for a japanese cartoon series.

I really hope Daizex or Amazon made a price listing mistake. Maybe I'm just the only one who's sane nowadays.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:11 am

If that price isn't a mistake... fuck you, Toei. No one wants Kai that fucking much. It's a bad product at an even worse price.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:32 am

Deep Thought wrote:For nine episodes. Nine fifteen minute episodes that have been cleaned up a little.

Err, while I'm not a Kai fan necessarily, it's 11 ~20 minute episodes with fully re-recorded vocal tracks, a new score and reanimated scenes.

I really hope Daizex or Amazon made a price listing mistake. Maybe I'm just the only one who's sane nowadays.

I take it you've never imported before. It's never been cheap exactly (besides, this is an HD release, the DVD release is about in line with FUNi's pre-Season Set prices).

JAPPO wrote:I'll pass entirely. Getting ripped off isn't my thing.

JAPPO then wrote:Horrible release. I can't see why anyone would support this, when chances are Kai will be packaged into season box sets when it's done airing.

JAPPO, yet again, wrote:If that price isn't a mistake... fuck you, Toei. No one wants Kai that fucking much. It's a bad product at an even worse price.

...Dude, are you just on auto-repeat? Or do you just feel the need to pop in once a page and reaffirm your lack of support for this release? I mean, if memory serves, your stance on DBE was (and still is, probably) "Let's wait and see." It's somewhat amusing to see your blatant hypocrisy.

Oh and "season box sets" in Japan? Aww, your ignorance of their marketing practices is so cute!

-Corey

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:39 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote: ...Dude, are you just on auto-repeat? Or do you just feel the need to pop in once a page and reaffirm your lack of support for this release? I mean, if memory serves, your stance on DBE was (and still is, probably) "Let's wait and see." It's somewhat amusing to see your blatant hypocrisy.

Your elitism and constant condescending tone is sickening. What do you mean by "wait and see," I've already seen what they're selling, and I don't think it's worth buying for much, especially not at the outrageous price they're asking.

As for replying more than once in this thread, that's because new information on the release was posted that further added to the list of negatives, so I gave my updated thoughts, which happened to still be negative. If the news had been good, I would have replied more positively. But I fail to see how any of this is your concern. If you don't value my opinion, then kindly shut the fuck up and ignore it.

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Oh and "season box sets" in Japan? Aww, your ignorance of their marketing practices is so cute!

You're an asshole. I don't live in Japan or buy imported Japanese products, so I don't know what their equivalent of season box sets are. But really, is it that big of a deal? You knew what I meant, box sets that are similar in content and price to season box sets here in America. I assume they have those, and if not then I was wrong. But you don't have to be such a douche about it.

It's clear that you have issues with me, but please leave me alone. I'm tired of members like you jumping down my throat whenever I share my opinion, and even use Dragonball Evolution against me in a completely unrelated topic.

I expect a long, snotty and sarcastic reply. I doubt you'll disappoint.

Kai_fan · Post by **Kai_fan** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:53 am

Well, it is an anime forum.

Post by **Herms** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:53 am

JAPPO wrote:I don't live in Japan or buy imported Japanese products, so I don't know what their equivalent of season box sets are. But really, is it that big of a deal?

If you don't know what you're talking about, then you shouldn't say anything.

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:10 am

Hyphen is absolutely going insane about this thread in the chatroom.

It is one of the most amusing things I've ever seen.

He is also under the impression Herms has insulted Jappo's honor, and that Herms runs Daizex... I'm worried the poor boy is plum insane...

Post by **Herms** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:30 am

godofchaos wrote:He is also under the impression Herms has insulted Jappo's honor,

Does this mean we have to duel with pistols now?

Anyway, I don't think Jappo is a bad guy by any means, it's just that matter of factly stating things when you haven't done your homework is a bad habit, as is assuming that things are exactly the same in a foreign country.

and that Herms runs Daizex...

He KNOWS. Send the secret police after him!

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:47 am

To reiterate: By Japanese standards this is unusually cheap. Let's contrast, for example, to the Spice and Wolf Blu-ray box set, which has 13 episodes and retails for more than double the price of the DBK sets. If you're complaining about the price, then no Japanese release of the series would ever have satisfied you. And no, it isn't likely that they'll release cheaper box sets later on.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:53 am

Herms wrote:
godofchaos wrote:He is also under the impression Herms has insulted Jappo's honor,
Does this mean we have to duel with pistols now?

How about Nintendo Zappers instead.

Anyway, I don't think Jappo is a bad guy by any means, it's just that matter of factly stating things when you haven't done your homework is a bad habit, as is assuming that things are exactly the same in a foreign country.

No matter where you live, I think this release is a rip-off. If it's common in Japan, then I'm sorry for the consumer for having to pay so much.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:33 am

So this is like the equivalent of Dragon Boxes exept it's Kai, and on Blu-Ray?

Possibly the best release of Dragon Ball picture quality wise ever, I would assume.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:05 am

JAPPO wrote:
Anyway, I don't think Jappo is a bad guy by any means, it's just that matter of factly stating things when you haven't done your homework is a bad habit, as is assuming that things are exactly the same in a foreign country.
No matter where you live, I think this release is a rip-off. If it's common in Japan, then I'm sorry for the consumer for having to pay so much.

That's nice. I feel sorry about you Americans for making so ridiculously little money. Isn't minimum wage $7.50 or so? I make more than twice that as a fucking supermarket clerk, but I don't tell you guys to go spit in your boss' face and demand he double your salary because of it.

These prices aren't bad, you're just too poor.

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:14 am

JAPPO wrote:No matter where you live, I think this release is a rip-off. If it's common in Japan, then I'm sorry for the consumer for having to pay so much.

This price isn't common in Japan. What's common is double this price. To give another example, Code Geass R2 on Blu-ray is 7,350 yen for 3 episodes, vs. DBK's 3,045 yen for the 3-episode first volume.

I'm sure they're touched by your concern, but they're probably also thinking this is a pretty good deal.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:45 am

Adamant wrote:
JAPPO wrote:
Anyway, I don't think Jappo is a bad guy by any means, it's just that matter of factly stating things when you haven't done your homework is a bad habit, as is assuming that things are exactly the same in a foreign country.
No matter where you live, I think this release is a rip-off. If it's common in Japan, then I'm sorry for the consumer for having to pay so much.
That's nice. I feel sorry about you Americans for making so ridiculously little money. Isn't minimum wage $7.50 or so? I make more than twice that as a fucking supermarket clerk, but I don't tell you guys to go spit in your boss' face and demand he double your salary because of it.

These prices aren't bad, you're just too poor.

It's not about being rich or poor, it's about what the product is worth, and a few episodes of Dragonball Kai is not worth hundreds of dollars to me. And I'm not American.

Just forget it.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:59 am

JAPPO wrote: It's not about being rich or poor, it's about what the product is worth, and a few episodes of Dragonball Kai is not worth hundreds of dollars to me.

These aren't marketed towards you. They're marketed towards people used to this kind of pricing. Toei doesn't give a shit whether you and your starving foreigner pockets can't afford these disks, they're perfectly content to selling them to people who don't find 3045 yen particularly high for a Bluray release of 3 TV episodes (which is relatively cheap by my standards, too. What would YOU consider a fair price?).

JAPPO wrote:And I'm not American.

You're obviously from a country with similiar economy, which is pretty much the same thing as far as this is concerned. It's not lke you have your country of residence listed anywhere here.

Vino · Post by **Vino** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:00 am

Adamant wrote:
These prices aren't bad, you're just too poor.

Too poor? I'm sorry, but 3 episodes of Dragonball Kai(Not eve edited to look like the OP/ED) doesn't worth my money.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:19 am

Vino wrote:
Adamant wrote:
These prices aren't bad, you're just too poor.
Too poor? I'm sorry, but 3 episodes of Dragonball Kai(Not eve edited to look like the OP/ED) doesn't worth my money.

No one is forcing them on you. Don't buy 'em.

Vino · Post by **Vino** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:24 am

SSJToreto wrote:
Vino wrote:
Adamant wrote:
These prices aren't bad, you're just too poor.
Too poor? I'm sorry, but 3 episodes of Dragonball Kai(Not eve edited to look like the OP/ED) doesn't worth my money.
No one is forcing them on you. Don't buy 'em.

True, hence I won't.

Son Wukong · Post by **Son Wukong** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:02 am

Did I somehow got translocated to another parallel universe? I understand that in these times money can be tight (as it is for me at the moment) but these are generic Japanese prices and assumed we all knew that? Guess I was wrong

Anyway, I´m still confused about some aspects.
1:Hooray! for the 4:3 aspect ratio but why the hell bother with the widescreen in the first place? Was it just an experiment?

2: Are they releasing the first three episodes on Blu-ray/DVD and from there on they go with boxes? Why?

3: So what did happen to episode 28?

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:21 am

Son Wukong wrote:Did I somehow got translocated to another parallel universe? I understand that in these times money can be tight (as it is for me at the moment) but these are generic Japanese prices and assumed we all knew that? Guess I was wrong

Anyway, I´m still confused about some aspects.
1:Hooray! for the 4:3 aspect ratio but why the hell bother with the widescreen in the first place? Was it just an experiment?

2: Are they releasing the first three episodes on Blu-ray/DVD and from there on they go with boxes? Why?

3: So what did happen to episode 28?

1. The 16:9 thing was due to standard HD broadcast standarts I guess... The 4:3 Blu-Ray thing is probably to please the old fan's. Just my guess.

2. So you can buy the first disc for 30$ and see if you like it before spending around 170$ or whatever for the box set.

3. What DID happen to episode 28?