Dragon Ball Manga Editions around the world.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:15 pm

That's pretty cool...

Too many rap songs revolving around DBZ....

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:17 pm

Cold Skin wrote: - Senzu : "Magic Bean"

- Yajirobe : "Balance"

Senzu to Magic Bean is a correct translation. Also, I seem to recall hearing someone calling Yajirobe "Yajir" at some point in the portuguese dub, which is based off the french dub...

Other interesting changes:

Baby - Le bebé mutant (literally "the mutant baby")
Super Saiyan 3 - Super-Super Warrior
Great Saiyaman - Intergalactic Warrior (hey, the name's so ridiculous that it fits with the ridiculousness of the character...)
Vegetto - Vegeku
Reacoom - Likum
Ginyu - Ginious
Elder Kaioshin - The Elder of the Gods
Gyumao - The Great Satanic King
All the Artificial Humans have a C before their number, i.e. "C18".
Chaozu - Chaoz
Shen Long - Holy Dragon
Dodonpa - Fire Ball

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:21 pm

"Cardbox-like rage"? O_o

Cold Skin · Post by **Cold Skin** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:30 pm

Rocketman wrote:"Cardbox-like rage"? O_o

Oh yeah, sorry, that French expression is a pain to translate.

Basically, it's like... "fake rage" or "toy rage" or something. I'll edit it that way so that it's clearer!

Cold Skin · Post by **Cold Skin** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:37 pm

Puto wrote:
Cold Skin wrote: - Senzu : "Magic Bean"

- Yajirobe : "Balance"

Senzu to Magic Bean is a correct translation. Also, I seem to recall hearing someone calling Yajirobe "Yajir" at some point in the portuguese dub, which is based off the french dub...

Other interesting changes:

Baby - Le bebé mutant (literally "the mutant baby")
Super Saiyan 3 - Super-Super Warrior
Great Saiyaman - Intergalactic Warrior (hey, the name's so ridiculous that it fits with the ridiculousness of the character...)
Vegetto - Vegeku
Reacoom - Likum
Ginyu - Ginious
Elder Kaioshin - The Elder of the Gods
Gyumao - The Great Satanic King
All the Artificial Humans have a C before their number, i.e. "C18".
Chaozu - Chaoz
Shen Long - Holy Dragon
Dodonpa - Fire Ball

Nice, I had forgotten a lot, and some of them I didn't even know (I haven't seen the whole series, far from it).

According to the manga, "senzu" translates to "Haricot du sage", which in English would be "Bean of the Wise" or "Bean of the Wise man" or "Bean of wisdom" or "Bean of the Sage" (I really don't know which one would fit, in French "Sage" can have different meanings, so it makes translating a translation harder, I don't know which of the English versions I mentionned would match the French translation "Haricot du sage", guess you have to know about the Japanese notion "sen" to find out if in English it's more "of the Wise", "of Wisdom", "of the Sage"!!)

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:08 pm

The "Sen" in "Senzu" can mean both "Hermit" or "Magic".

Post by **Herms** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:35 pm

Puto wrote:The "Sen" in "Senzu" can mean both "Hermit" or "Magic".

Not according to what I've ever seen, and not according to Jim Breen's kanji dictionary. At any rate, in the story senzu are the beans of Karin the cat sage, so going by that translating them as "sage beans" or some varient would be better than "magic beans", even if the later were accurate.

Shenron · Post by **Shenron** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:01 pm

Cold Skin, you forgot our Orange Bricks :

Same translation as the very first edition, they only grouped 2 tankoubon in one book.

coinmanmat · Post by **coinmanmat** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:13 pm

Shenron wrote:Cold Skin, you forgot our Orange Bricks :

Same translation as the very first edition, they only grouped 2 tankoubon in one book.

Looks similar to Viz's big editions that are 3 Graphic novels in one

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:21 pm

coinmanmat wrote:
Shenron wrote:Cold Skin, you forgot our Orange Bricks :

Same translation as the very first edition, they only grouped 2 tankoubon in one book.
Looks similar to Viz's big editions that are 3 Graphic novels in one

The Double Editions came out first by far; they were the first thing published after the first edition Tankobon.

Ahhh "Petit Coeur." How I don't miss you.

And technically they translated Taiyoken to "Sunburn," not "Sun Bite." Morsure De Soleil is literally the term used for sunburn.

Cold Skin · Post by **Cold Skin** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:41 pm

Dayspring wrote:The Double Editions came out first by far; they were the first thing published after the first edition Tankobon.

Ahhh "Petit Coeur." How I don't miss you.

And technically they translated Taiyoken to "Sunburn," not "Sun Bite." Morsure De Soleil is literally the term used for sunburn.

Oh, I didn't even know Morsure de soleil was an existing expression which had its meaning and translation! I thought they just made it up, so I translated it "as is"!

We just keep learning new stuff on that forum!

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:33 pm

Cold Skin wrote:
Dayspring wrote:The Double Editions came out first by far; they were the first thing published after the first edition Tankobon.

Ahhh "Petit Coeur." How I don't miss you.

And technically they translated Taiyoken to "Sunburn," not "Sun Bite." Morsure De Soleil is literally the term used for sunburn.
Oh, I didn't even know Morsure de soleil was an existing expression which had its meaning and translation! I thought they just made it up, so I translated it "as is"!

We just keep learning new stuff on that forum!

We need a Daizex brand "More You Know" rainbow.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:22 pm

Herms wrote:
Puto wrote:The "Sen" in "Senzu" can mean both "Hermit" or "Magic".
Not according to what I've ever seen, and not according to Jim Breen's kanji dictionary.

"Wizard" is listed as a translation of sen there. "Wizard beans", "magic beans"... it's a valid translation, and sounds much better than the alternatives.

Post by **Herms** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:19 am

I don't know, call me nit-picky, but I think there's a distinction between something being associated with a sage or wizard and something being magic. At any rate, calling them "magic beans" obscures the connection between them and Karin, and sounds extremely generic.

Cold Skin · Post by **Cold Skin** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:59 pm

Herms wrote:I don't know, call me nit-picky, but I think there's a distinction between something being associated with a sage or wizard and something being magic. At any rate, calling them "magic beans" obscures the connection between them and Karin, and sounds extremely generic.

Yeah, I guess everyone is free to have their own opinion, but I agree with you. As you said, I think "Sage bean" (in the sense of "Bean of a Sage" and not "Bean which is a sage itself" of course!) suits Karin who even introduces himself as a cat Sage with his little pun.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:00 pm

Dayspring wrote:Morsure De Soleil is literally the term used for sunburn.

I'm sorry, what?
"Sunburn" is "coup de soleil", in French.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:44 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
Dayspring wrote:Morsure De Soleil is literally the term used for sunburn.
I'm sorry, what?
"Sunburn" is "coup de soleil", in French.

Yay, a fellow Quebecer!

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:03 am

Er... No. I'm from France. It's "coup de soleil" in France.

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:22 am

Let's sharpen my French knowledge a bit shall we:

Coup de soleil = sunstroke

Morsure = The act of biting
Morsure de soleil: Sun Bite
Sun bite = To be sunburnt

Every dictionary I checked in showed coup de soleil as "sunstroke" and morsure de soleil as "sun bite".

I am confused.
Is it maybe dialectal?

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:30 am

No no no...

Coup de soleil = sunburn
Insolation = sunstroke
Morsure du Soleil = French name of the Taiyôken (lit. "Sun Bite")