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Re: Anime Filler Plot-holes/Inconcestencies

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun May 15, 2011 6:04 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:One that I would like to bring up is all the planets that got blown up by Buu that they stated "could be brought back by the Dragon Balls, but never were.
But was it ever shown that Kid Boo actually destroyed planets? Because when they got to the Kaioshin Realm, Goku said, "Don't worry. If he blows up any more planets, then we can just bring them back with the Dragon Balls.". And I don't think he was talking about the planets that Boo had destroyed before.

After Kid Boo regenerated in space, he instantly teleported to the Kaioshin Realm. I think it was only the anime that depicted Kid Boo blowing up planets before teleporting to the Kaioshin Realm.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Sun May 15, 2011 6:21 am

I'm 99% sure he blew up several planets before Goku and Vegeta raised their ki to attract him. I remember thinking how odd it was that they just let everyone but Earth's resident stay dead.
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Re: Anime Filler Plot-holes/Inconcestencies

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun May 15, 2011 6:40 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:I'm 99% sure he blew up several planets before Goku and Vegeta raised their ki to attract him. I remember thinking how odd it was that they just let everyone but Earth's resident stay dead.
Well, you're wrong. I'm 100% sure that in the manga, Boo is shown regenerating in space, then he looks into space for a moment, before teleporting to the Kaioshin Realm. Everyone are surprised that he can do that, and Goku or someone says that he must've learned it from seeing the Kaioshin do it.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Sun May 15, 2011 6:48 am

But I'm talking about the anime.... that's the whole point.
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Post by Fox666 » Sun May 15, 2011 7:08 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:I'm 99% sure he blew up several planets before Goku and Vegeta raised their ki to attract him. I remember thinking how odd it was that they just let everyone but Earth's resident stay dead.
Well, that's not exactly a plot-hole (they never cared to bring back to life the people Nappa killed when he landed on Earth) but the anime staff surely forget about that detail

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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Sun May 15, 2011 7:12 am

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Kingdom Heartless wrote:I'm 99% sure he blew up several planets before Goku and Vegeta raised their ki to attract him. I remember thinking how odd it was that they just let everyone but Earth's resident stay dead.
Well, that's not exactly a plot-hole (they never cared to bring back to life the people Nappa killed when he landed on Earth) but the anime staff surely forget about that detail
I'd still class it as an inconsistency. I mean, Nappa killed a few people, sure... but this is whole planets filled with living beings, which they said they would bring back and then completely ignored. I'd say it was a pretty big oversight on their part.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Sun May 15, 2011 7:12 am

Fox666 wrote:
Kingdom Heartless wrote:I'm 99% sure he blew up several planets before Goku and Vegeta raised their ki to attract him. I remember thinking how odd it was that they just let everyone but Earth's resident stay dead.
Well, that's not exactly a plot-hole (they never cared to bring back to life the people Nappa killed when he landed on Earth) but the anime staff surely forget about that detail
I'd still class it as an inconsistency. I mean, Nappa killed a few people, sure... but this is whole planets filled with living beings, which they said they would bring back and then completely ignored. I'd say it was a pretty big oversight on Toei's part.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun May 15, 2011 9:19 am

Kingdom Heartless wrote:But I'm talking about the anime.... that's the whole point.
Oh, I forgot. My mistake. I thought you were claiming the anime had Kid Boo destroy planets, and I'd put at the end of my post, "I think it was only the anime that depicted Kid Boo blowing up planets before teleporting to the Kaioshin Realm".
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Post by Casual Matt » Sun May 15, 2011 9:44 am

GotenDaisuki wrote:I know this isn't about a certain scene in the anime, but I think GT is an inconsistency in itself. How long after Z was it? The Japanese states five years, but that can't be possible since everyone looks much more older than a mere five years would do, especially Bra, since she wasn't even in existence at the end of Z. FUNimation states that it takes place ten years after Z, which makes a lot more sense.
Where does it say five years? I don't remember that being stated in the show. Guide books, maybe?

Also, Bra was present at the end of Z.

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GotenDaisuki wrote:Also, I have another Z/GT inconsistency that has to do with Hell. In Z, it looks colorful and has all the locations from Japanese legends (though, that would be a bad way of putting it), such as the River of Blood. In GT, it is much darker, and is bland and boring. Two different Hell's in the Dragon Ball universe, perhaps? No, it's another inconsistency. Both Hell's are filler, creating even MORE of an inconsistency.
I believe GT also introduced the idea of different levels of Hell or something along those lines? Either way, Hell is a big ass place in the Dragon Ball cosmos.

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While it is an essentially flat realm, unlike round planets, it's length accross rivals that of the mortal Universe itself. So it may be a bit of a stretch to assume that every area of Hell looks exactly the same.
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This is entirely based on opinion. Who's to say Yamcha and co. didn't get stronger than the Ginyu Force through training on Kaio's planet? It's not out of the realm of possibility, considering the power jumps characters get for the sake of plot and especially considering Piccolo's implied-to-be-stronger-than-Nail power after Kaio's training.
I always assumed that once an evil character died and went to Hell their power was somehow cut. This would explain everything from the Earthlings beating on the Ginyu Tokusentai, to Paikuhan handing Cell his ass, to Goku in base form not breaking a sweat against both Cell and Freeza.
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Post by Herms » Sun May 15, 2011 12:30 pm

Casual Matt wrote:Where does it say five years? I don't remember that being stated in the show. Guide books, maybe?
Yes, it's from the GT Perfect Files. Toei has also mentioned it on their GT website, I believe.
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Post by Fox666 » Sun May 15, 2011 12:38 pm

While it's subjective, I would say it's unlikely that Cell would gather with Freeza like they did in the Dai-Kaio fillers.

As far we know of Cell personality, there is no way he would want to join someone with only half of his power, and Freeza is nowhere close to having half of his power.
Casual Matt wrote:I always assumed that once an evil character died and went to Hell their power was somehow cut. This would explain everything from the Earthlings beating on the Ginyu Tokusentai, to Paikuhan handing Cell his ass, to Goku in base form not breaking a sweat against both Cell and Freeza.
It's not like the villain get weaker, it's just that the fillers have a weird sense of the balance in powers. GT does that all time.

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Post by Dorexx » Sun May 15, 2011 1:54 pm

This one could go in the "Alternate Colours" topic, but anyway...

I noticed that every time Planet Vegeta is shown it looks different.

Kaio's story:
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Raditz's flashback:

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Bardock TV Special:

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The Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans:
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GT flashback:
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GT wished back:
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The Plan to Eadicate the Saiyans Remake:

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Post by violadude » Sun May 15, 2011 9:48 pm

Maybe the weather/climate on Planet Vegeta is just THAT extreme. :lol:

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Post by DBZ Mick » Sun May 15, 2011 11:06 pm

Vegeta tells Freeza to transform saying that Zarbon mentioned it. Yet, in the anime Zarbon never says such a thing.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by Herms » Sun May 15, 2011 11:51 pm

DBZ Mick wrote:Vegeta tells Freeza to transform saying that Zarbon mentioned it. Yet, in the anime Zarbon never says such a thing.
Zarbon says that in the manga, but they left that line out of the anime for whatever reason.
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Post by DBZ Mick » Mon May 16, 2011 2:19 am

Yeah, I know that. I was just mentioning it as part of the whole ideal of the thread being about anime inconsistencies.
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It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by Fox666 » Mon May 16, 2011 4:37 am

Herms wrote:
DBZ Mick wrote:Vegeta tells Freeza to transform saying that Zarbon mentioned it. Yet, in the anime Zarbon never says such a thing.
Zarbon says that in the manga, but they left that line out of the anime for whatever reason.
I tought that was just the dub here, interesting to know that was in the japanese anime

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