Kai vs Z

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Thu May 17, 2012 11:31 pm

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...the HELL?!
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu May 17, 2012 11:49 pm

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LiamKav wrote:(He got me to watch Eva, I get him to watch this. DB is a lot more episodes, but it doesn't contain a scene where the main character has masturbated over a 14 year old girl in a coma who's breasts have popped out so, there's that. God damn you, Shinji.)

...the HELL?!
Yeah... I've only watched the series, and that never happened. I'm not asking for spoilers, but was that one of the movies or something, or a bad fanfic? :?
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by kei17 » Fri May 18, 2012 12:21 am

Metalwario64 wrote:Yeah... I've only watched the series, and that never happened. I'm not asking for spoilers, but was that one of the movies or something, or a bad fanfic? :?
IIRC, it happened in one of the old movies.

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by JulieYBM » Fri May 18, 2012 12:37 am

Oh God, yeah. I remember that scene. It happened in Episode #25': Air. ~_~
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by LiamKav » Fri May 18, 2012 5:11 am

It was in the Death and Rebirth movie, which recapped the entire series and then had something 20 minutes of new footage. I think some of the footage was then spliced back into the final few episodes to creates extended versions. Don't forget, this is a show that has two completely seperate endings that might be the same or different or what.

Eva is very confusing.

(That scene was animated in typical Eva style, btw. By which I mean we just got to stare at a wall while we heard Shinji making some noises, and then we got a close of up of his hand after he finished. There are no words...)

(To be fair, the scene was supposed to make you have the reaction that everyone is having.)

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue May 22, 2012 1:27 am

Yo can anyone give me example dialogue of funimation's sub of kai, is it a constant repetition of damn and bastard like the dub or is it even more lame by avoiding using curses? Like are they still afraid to say shit in the new subs?

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Daisetsu » Wed May 23, 2012 5:15 pm

I'm not too sure, but I think the Kai subs are the same as the DBZ subs. So there should a respectable amount of cursing in Kai sub.

One example I can think of is in episode 50 and Goku says (yells) "see you in Hell, Freeza!"

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed May 23, 2012 10:33 pm

Nex Carnifex wrote:Yo can anyone give me example dialogue of funimation's sub of kai, is it a constant repetition of damn and bastard like the dub or is it even more lame by avoiding using curses? Like are they still afraid to say shit in the new subs?
I remember "damn", "monkey" and "hell", but Hell's a place so not really cursing, and Monkey's a way that Freeza calls out the Saiyans. Damn doesn't actually qualify as swearing, it's just a word.
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by LiamKav » Thu May 24, 2012 7:11 am

There are obviously different levels of swearing, but "Damn" is unlikely to be said by Elmo, so I think it counts.

The Kai dub seems to have PG level swearing (damn, hell etc), but I don't think it goes to the next level of swearing (which would be your shits and so on). It does have bastard, which wavers inbetween the two levels.

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Post by Gonstead » Thu May 24, 2012 7:18 pm

Unless you count that one example of Guldo.
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri May 25, 2012 1:48 am

Gonstead wrote:Unless you count that one example of Guldo.
Ghurd didn't say "Shit" clearly but "Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... Time to bust out my--". "Shit" doesn't count.
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Kendamu » Fri May 25, 2012 3:39 am

Nex Carnifex wrote:Yo can anyone give me example dialogue of funimation's sub of kai, is it a constant repetition of damn and bastard like the dub or is it even more lame by avoiding using curses? Like are they still afraid to say shit in the new subs?
Yes, they're still being lame. They probably won't stop being lame. You might as well stop being a fan now.

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Nex Carnifex » Sat May 26, 2012 9:08 pm

Kendamu wrote:
Nex Carnifex wrote:Yo can anyone give me example dialogue of funimation's sub of kai, is it a constant repetition of damn and bastard like the dub or is it even more lame by avoiding using curses? Like are they still afraid to say shit in the new subs?
Yes, they're still being lame. They probably won't stop being lame. You might as well stop being a fan now.
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Nex Carnifex » Mon May 28, 2012 2:08 am

Can someone explain the copyright issues with Kai's soundtrack to me? Also, what do you think the future holds for Kai?

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Metalwario64 » Mon May 28, 2012 2:10 am

Nex Carnifex wrote:Can someone explain the copyright issues with Kai's soundtrack to me? Also, what do you think the future holds for Kai?
Not to be rude, but it's the first thing you see on the features section of this very forum's website...
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Mon May 28, 2012 2:35 am

Gonstead wrote:A collective of all the cursing in Kai so far.

Part's 1 - 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzXsyiKxes

Part's 4 - 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnaPKXW-ng4
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Gonstead » Mon May 28, 2012 2:42 am

They really don't curse all that much really when you sit down and watch it. It's more frequent than Z but it's not like every second or so.
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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by Nex Carnifex » Mon May 28, 2012 3:20 am

Metalwario64 wrote:
Nex Carnifex wrote:Can someone explain the copyright issues with Kai's soundtrack to me? Also, what do you think the future holds for Kai?
Not to be rude, but it's the first thing you see on the features section of this very forum's website...
Forgot about that thanks, just read it. Well Yamamoto definitely pushed his luck a bit too far especially with that Terminator soundtrack rip-off, though watching the original Japanese broadcast of kai right now I must say its a shame because his soundtrack really works. Hopefully this isn't the actual end for kai or the future of Dragon Ball TV series, definitely not satisfying to have the remastered manga faithful version of the Dragon Ball anime with an incomplete soundtrack, the remaining episodes maimed by a thrown together mess of the Z soundtrack. I always loved the video game music and actually made a topic about how they should use those tracks from the games to score the anime, and I guess I got that wish but then this kind of ruined it. Too bad, I do have the original Japanese airing with translations though so I guess that last episode will just have to have an anti-climactic change in music.

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Mon May 28, 2012 6:56 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Gonstead wrote:Unless you count that one example of Guldo.
Ghurd didn't say "Shit" clearly but "Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... Time to bust out my--". "Shit" doesn't count.
He clearly says shit. There's quite a bit of time after saying shit before he says that it's time to bust out his secret weapon.

Honestly I feel like half the time I post I'm correcting one of your incorrect "corrections".

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Re: Kai vs Z

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon May 28, 2012 7:54 am

I disagree.

Ghurd to me didn't feel like he said shit all in one go, but "sheiii- time to bust my secret weapon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoAWFT3nHJ0

Let's just agree to disagree.
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