Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

[Saiga]

Pure Boo uses the beam in the manga, against Goku. He just dodges it.

Pure Bo isn't listed as a user of the technique in D7, so it could be a similar technique with Piccolo's Antenna Beam.

Pure Evil Boo didn't use it at all, so I'm guessing D7 is actually referring to Pure Boo.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

D7 only mentioned Majin Boo (Good) & Majin Boo (Evil) as users.

[Saiga]

D7 only mentioned Majin Boo (Good) & Majin Boo (Evil) as users.

I know that. But I'm saying that "Majin Boo (Evil)" might be referring to Pure Boo rather than Pure Evil Boo. As Kaboom pointed out, it has in Daizenshuu 2, and as I said, Pure Evil Boo never used it.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

D7 only mentioned Majin Boo (Good) & Majin Boo (Evil) as users.

I know that. But I'm saying that "Majin Boo (Evil)" might be referring to Pure Boo rather than Pure Evil Boo. As Kaboom pointed out, it has in Daizenshuu 2, and as I said, Pure Evil Boo never used it.

But they are not talking about Pure Evil Boo. It's talking about Evil Boo (also known as Super Boo), who does use it.. In that section of D7, we see Majin Boo (good), Majin Boo (pure evil), Majin Boo (evil), and Majin Boo (pure). Neither Majin Boo (pure evil) or Majin Boo (pure) are listed as users.

[Saiga]

D7 only mentioned Majin Boo (Good) & Majin Boo (Evil) as users.

I know that. But I'm saying that "Majin Boo (Evil)" might be referring to Pure Boo rather than Pure Evil Boo. As Kaboom pointed out, it has in Daizenshuu 2, and as I said, Pure Evil Boo never used it.

But they are not talking about Pure Evil Boo. It's talking about Evil Boo (also known as Super Boo), who does use it.. In that section of D7, we see Majin Boo (good), Majin Boo (pure evil), Majin Boo (evil), and Majin Boo (pure). Neither Majin Boo (pure evil) or Majin Boo (pure) are listed as users.

Oh, wait. Sorry, I completely confused what Boo you were talking about. Damn that guy and his weird naming scheme.

As far as I'm concerned, Pure Boo definitely used it, and D7 have missed that.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

As far as I'm concerned, Pure Boo definitely used it, and D7 have missed that.

It's possible, but we don't know for sure. We have seen Piccolo & Buyon firering electric waves (or whatever it is) from their antennas, and since we didn't Pure Boo's thing hitting anything, it's also possible that he did the same thing Piccolo & Buyon did.

[Saiga]

As far as I'm concerned, Pure Boo definitely used it, and D7 have missed that.

It's possible, but we don't know for sure. We have seen Piccolo & Buyon firering electric waves (or whatever it is) from their antennas, and since we didn't Pure Boo's thing hitting anything, it's also possible that he did the same thing Piccolo & Buyon did.

That seems too much like a coincidence to be true, IMO. Especially because the panel of Pure Boo using it would be very easy to overlook.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'm gonna have to think about it a little. Like, if the Transfiguration Beam actually originates from Boo, why did he absorb the two Kaioshin?

[Saiga]

I'm gonna have to think about it a little. Like, if the Transfiguration Beam actually originates from Boo, why did he absorb the two Kaioshin?

My reasoning has always been "shits and giggles". After all, this isn't the calculating, rational Boo that absorb Gotenks, Piccolo & Gohan out of need.

[Darkprince410]

I'm gonna have to think about it a little. Like, if the Transfiguration Beam actually originates from Boo, why did he absorb the two Kaioshin?

I've held onto the theory as this. He absorbed the South Kaioushin for the same reason we see him do so in the anime (I know it's filler, but given the context of the situation, it fits). South Kaioushin proved to be a strong enough fighter that Pure Buu saw that absorbing him was a far easier solution than trying to actually fight and kill him. Once absorbing him and realizing the immense power he just attained as a result, his primitive mind went into an "action and reward" sort of mindset. Just like conditioning an animal or a young child into doing something with the promise of a reward, he deduced that if he got stronger by absorbing one Kaioushin, that he'd get even stronger if he absorbed another. He went to absorb the Dai Kaioushin, thinking that he'd just get another boost to his strength, but in reality he ended up weakening himself because, obviously, not all Kaioushin are equal.

[Tyro]

Anyone else think it's crazy that Dai Kaio-shin's influence was so overwhelming on Boo that he completely lost all power gained through absorbing the Southern Kaio-shin (assuming Pure Boo > Innocent Boo)? If the Southern Kaio-shin was on the level of SSj3 Goku and Pure Boo then we're at least talking about doubling his power, and then immediately powered down to below his initial level. I guess that helps give evidence as to why Boo took on Dai Kaio-shin features so heavily.

[rereboy]

Anyone else think it's crazy that Dai Kaio-shin's influence was so overwhelming on Boo that he completely lost all power gained through absorbing the Southern Kaio-shin (assuming Pure Boo > Innocent Boo)? If the Southern Kaio-shin was on the level of SSj3 Goku and Pure Boo then we're at least talking about doubling his power, and then immediately powered down to below his initial level. I guess that helps give evidence as to why Boo took on Dai Kaio-shin features so heavily.

Considering that its probably safe to assume that Dai Kaioshin was a god with vast knowledge and wisdom, and that Fat Buu is just a simpleton with a very child-like mind and knowledge who doesn't seem to know any of the stuff that presumably Dai Kaioshin knew (and even his evil nature is highly suppressed), its also safe to assume that the effects of absorbing Dai Kaioshin were rather extreme and totally unlike any other absorption that we saw.

Frankly, the fact that Buu lost power seems a somewhat mild side effect when we consider that the other side effects included the suppression of so much of his evil nature, and that instead of gaining Dai Kaioshin's intellect and knowledge, that intellect and knowledge apparently dissipated and the the intellect and knowledge of South Kaioshin was also lost (who also certainly knew more than a child, like Buu appears to be).

[Draken]

Anyone else think it's crazy that Dai Kaio-shin's influence was so overwhelming on Boo that he completely lost all power gained through absorbing the Southern Kaio-shin (assuming Pure Boo > Innocent Boo)? If the Southern Kaio-shin was on the level of SSj3 Goku and Pure Boo then we're at least talking about doubling his power, and then immediately powered down to below his initial level. I guess that helps give evidence as to why Boo took on Dai Kaio-shin features so heavily.

I've always thought it possible that the fat, innocent Buu might actually be slightly stronger than Kid Buu under certain circumstances. As we all know, his evil is greatly suppressed. But when he gets angry, he gets stronger, sort of like Gohan, and Dai Kaioshin loses some of the weakening hold. So if Fat Buu is happy and carefree and just doing whatever than yea Dai Kaioshin's influence greatly weakens him, to the point he was weaker than before absorption. But if he gets mad and releases more of his power that was until then held in check, he gets stronger and taps into some of that more evil power.

[MDSTSSJ]

Anyone else think it's crazy that Dai Kaio-shin's influence was so overwhelming on Boo that he completely lost all power gained through absorbing the Southern Kaio-shin (assuming Pure Boo > Innocent Boo)? If the Southern Kaio-shin was on the level of SSj3 Goku and Pure Boo then we're at least talking about doubling his power, and then immediately powered down to below his initial level. I guess that helps give evidence as to why Boo took on Dai Kaio-shin features so heavily.

I've always thought it possible that the fat, innocent Buu might actually be slightly stronger than Kid Buu under certain circumstances. As we all know, his evil is greatly suppressed. But when he gets angry, he gets stronger, sort of like Gohan, and Dai Kaioshin loses some of the weakening hold. So if Fat Buu is happy and carefree and just doing whatever than yea Dai Kaioshin's influence greatly weakens him, to the point he was weaker than before absorption. But if he gets mad and releases more of his power that was until then held in check, he gets stronger and taps into some of that more evil power.

That's one of the reasons why I believed that the contained Fat Boo is stronger than it looks, stronger than most people think and the Dai Kaioshin influence does not dominate as much as has always been believed.

[Darkprince410]

Anyone else think it's crazy that Dai Kaio-shin's influence was so overwhelming on Boo that he completely lost all power gained through absorbing the Southern Kaio-shin (assuming Pure Boo > Innocent Boo)? If the Southern Kaio-shin was on the level of SSj3 Goku and Pure Boo then we're at least talking about doubling his power, and then immediately powered down to below his initial level. I guess that helps give evidence as to why Boo took on Dai Kaio-shin features so heavily.

I've always thought it possible that the fat, innocent Buu might actually be slightly stronger than Kid Buu under certain circumstances. As we all know, his evil is greatly suppressed. But when he gets angry, he gets stronger, sort of like Gohan, and Dai Kaioshin loses some of the weakening hold. So if Fat Buu is happy and carefree and just doing whatever than yea Dai Kaioshin's influence greatly weakens him, to the point he was weaker than before absorption. But if he gets mad and releases more of his power that was until then held in check, he gets stronger and taps into some of that more evil power.

I've always felt that he has the potential to grow as strong as Evil Buu if he were to get angry enough, but his body is seemingly conditioned to force an expulsion of Pure Evil Buu before he reaches that actual strength. This could in turn explain why Pure Evil Buu and Pure Buu should technically be the same strength (that Fat Buu, right before expelling him, was basically right at Evil Buu's strength) and yet also explain why Goku felt that he'd have been able to defeat Fat Buu (Fat Buu at the time was happy and enjoying the fight, and therefore wasn't angry enough to tap into his full strength).

[Amuro Ray]

Buu isn't being weakend by the Kai's power - actually nothing about their power is stated. It's their nature, and Dai Kaioshin's peaceful nature is weakening Buu. No matter what, Pure Buu would be the strongest based on being able to access his full power - something superbuu and fatbuu couldn't do.

[Draken]

Buu isn't being weakend by the Kai's power - actually nothing about their power is stated. It's their nature, and Dai Kaioshin's peaceful nature is weakening Buu. No matter what, Pure Buu would be the strongest based on being able to access his full power - something superbuu and fatbuu couldn't do.

Who the heck was saying that Dai Kaioshin was weakening Buu through his power? I've certainly never read it. We've said it was their influence. Another reason why I suspect you just ignore everything except something that could help your case. Pure Buu has access to his solo power, good for him, Super Buu and Fat Buu have access to the power of the Kaioshin's as well as his full power.

[Amuro Ray]

Buu isn't being weakend by the Kai's power - actually nothing about their power is stated. It's their nature, and Dai Kaioshin's peaceful nature is weakening Buu. No matter what, Pure Buu would be the strongest based on being able to access his full power - something superbuu and fatbuu couldn't do.

Who the heck was saying that Dai Kaioshin was weakening Buu through his power? I've certainly never read it. We've said it was their influence. Another reason why I suspect you just ignore everything except something that could help your case. Pure Buu has access to his solo power, good for him, Super Buu and Fat Buu have access to the power of the Kaioshin's as well as his full power.

But the Kaioshin is never said to increase his power - again, I don't believe their power is compatiable with Buu.

[Draken]

Buu isn't being weakend by the Kai's power - actually nothing about their power is stated. It's their nature, and Dai Kaioshin's peaceful nature is weakening Buu. No matter what, Pure Buu would be the strongest based on being able to access his full power - something superbuu and fatbuu couldn't do.

Who the heck was saying that Dai Kaioshin was weakening Buu through his power? I've certainly never read it. We've said it was their influence. Another reason why I suspect you just ignore everything except something that could help your case. Pure Buu has access to his solo power, good for him, Super Buu and Fat Buu have access to the power of the Kaioshin's as well as his full power.

But the Kaioshin is never said to increase his power - again, I don't believe their power is compatiable with Buu.

Transforms into Buff South Kaioshin Buu = HOLYCRAPHISCHIISRISINGWEREFKED. Where's your proof that it's not "compatiable" with Buu again? There's a difference between reviving and absorption. Heck they were gathering energy for Buu by making people fight and taking power from the pain inflicted.

[Amuro Ray]

The transformation was only such because the South Kai had been removed, allowing Buu to access all his power. There is -unless I'm mistaken - ever any mention of the Kais adding to Buus power. Even Kibito wasn't scared of "buffbuu."