Scenes where you've disliked your favourite character

[rereboy]

I already said that Roshi could probably blow up their base. However, that was out of the question at that moment in time because Goku was already over there and he wouldn't blow it up along with Goku. So, they would have to storm the place, and that would actually be much more difficult than blowing it up from afar.

As for blowing it up at any point in the story, first, as far as I remember, nobody actually knew where RR's headquarters was before that point... So, Roshi would at least have to know that first. And before Goku stormed the place, Roshi didn't seem to even want to go to "war" with them and fight them.

But, even if he knew where it was, and he wanted to destroy it, blowing it from afar wouldn't be that easy. Roshi would have to be within view range of the base at least to destroy it, and the RR army could detect intruders miles before they got close. That's why I mentioned Bulma's drone. Roshi and the others managed to get close to the base without being attacked only because RR's guys were distracted by Goku storming the place.

Roshi's is not such a simpleton to not fear what they might throw at him or to assume that it would be simple or that everything would go according to the plan. He knows that their soldiers, with with right weapons and the right circumstances, could kill him. He's much wiser than Goku, and if Goku wasn't such a simpleton, if he actually took the time to reflect upon the blow he took from White's Hiper Gun, the power of #8, and Blue's abilities, Goku would also be much more concerned about just storming their headquarters.

And you don't seem to understand that storming the place is vastly different from blowing it from afar. Roshi only says that he thought that Goku wouldn't be able to literally walk in there, beat up everyone, and leave, or, in other words, that he wouldn't be able to storm the place. He NEVER mentions anything about destroying it from afar, sniper style.

Its precisely because they don't know who or how many they are and how strong they are, despite having already met a pretty scary example (Blue), and what kind of weapons they have, that they fear what they might encounter there. Which is pretty reasonable. Also, Goku was hit by apparently a regular sniper riffle. If that sniper riffle had been as powerful as the Hiper Gun White had, or even more powerful, or if there were many of them like that, Goku probably wouldn't be ok.

[Cursed Lemon]

Well, SSJ2 kid Gohan is my favorite character, so you could say that in M10 I was a little pissed.

"Gohan, you lazy idiot, you are RUINING ALL OF MY FAN THEORIES ABOUT BROLY'S STRENGTH!"

[dbzfan7]

I already said that Roshi could probably blow up their base. However, that was out of the question at that moment in time because Goku was already over there and he wouldn't blow it up along with Goku. So, they would have to storm the place, and that would actually be much more difficult than blowing it up from afar.

As for blowing it up at any point in the story, first, as far as I remember, nobody actually knew where RR's headquarters was before that point... So, Roshi would at least have to know that first. And before Goku stormed the place, Roshi didn't seem to even want to go to "war" with them and fight them.

But, even if he knew where it was, and he wanted to destroy it, blowing it from afar wouldn't be that easy. Roshi would have to be within view range of the base at least to destroy it, and the RR army could detect intruders miles before they got close. That's why I mentioned Bulma's drone. Roshi and the others managed to get close to the base without being attacked only because RR's guys were distracted by Goku storming the place.

Roshi's is not such a simpleton to not fear what they might throw at him or to assume that it would be simple or that everything would go according to the plan. He knows that their soldiers, with with right weapons and the right circumstances, could kill him. He's much wiser than Goku, and if Goku wasn't such a simpleton, if he actually took the time to reflect upon the blow he took from White's Hiper Gun, the power of #8, and Blue's abilities, Goku would also be much more concerned about just storming their headquarters.

And you don't seem to understand that storming the place is vastly different from blowing it from afar. Roshi only says that he thought that Goku wouldn't be able to literally walk in there, beat up everyone, and leave, or, in other words, that he wouldn't be able to storm the place. He NEVER mentions anything about destroying it from afar, sniper style.

Its precisely because they don't know who or how many they are and how strong they are, despite having already met a pretty scary example (Blue), and what kind of weapons they have, that they fear what they might encounter there. Which is pretty reasonable. Also, Goku was hit by apparently a regular sniper riffle. If that sniper riffle had been as powerful as the Hiper Gun White had, or even more powerful, or if there were many of them like that, Goku probably wouldn't be ok.

I find it hard to believe that no one knew where they we're located. Hell their soldiers are cowards so interrogating for a location would be easy.

I'm pretty sure he could be pointed in the direction of the base and then blow it up. It doesn't take him long to form the Kamehameha needed to end them. Hell all they need is a spy plane like before and Bulma's to pinpoint the accuracy, then blast away.

Roshi only mentioned that stamina could be a problem and that wiping them all out could tire him. That's it.

[Jackal puFF]

There's that one scene where Goku goes to fetch senzu beans for Videl, just right after her brutal fight with Spovovitch. Thanks to the filler.. Goku isn't in any rush but actually eating! While his son's love is in the worst state of her life.

Really makes Goku unlikeable there.. I really hope they remove that in the future Kai.

[rereboy]

I find it hard to believe that no one knew where they we're located. Hell their soldiers are cowards so interrogating for a location would be easy.

I also find it hard to believe that a rogue army not affiliated with any country (like RR) could exist and be allowed to act freely without being at full scale war with the rest of the world. Yet, it did.

That line of thinking is pointless. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, RR army headquarters' location is at least implied to not be known prior to these events. Either way, even if it was known, like I said, before these events, Roshi and the others didn't seem to want to go to war with them, nor would it be easy to attack them in any case.

I'm pretty sure he could be pointed in the direction of the base and then blow it up. It doesn't take him long to form the Kamehameha needed to end them. Hell all they need is a spy plane like before and Bulma's to pinpoint the accuracy, then blast away.

You mean, without actually seeing the base? Fire the Kamehameha blindly in the direction of the base from miles away and hope it hits? That's a great idea. Firing a equivalent to a small atom bomb in the direction of something we are not seeing and hope it hits the target intended and nothing more. Brilliant.

And no, Roshi can't pinpoint the location without seeing it. He is not a machine that all it needs is coordinates. Besides, to do such a thing he would need to be able to bend his Kamehameha to change its direction and only strike the intended target (something that he was never shown to be able to do and that even Goku only managed to do later on) without even seeing the obstacles that the attack might encounter on the way (something that even Goku never did).

Roshi only mentioned that stamina could be a problem and that wiping them all out could tire him. That's it.

Of course stamina was the most important issue. Roshi didn't believe that anyone in RR was actually stronger than he was, but, if he had to fight with hundreds or thousands of soldiers, maybe many of them as troublesome or more than Blue, armed with very powerful and dangerous weapons that could potentially kill him, any wrong move, any slowdown in his speed, any awkward movement could be enough for them to overwhelm Roshi and the others. That's exactly what I've been saying. That's why Roshi mentions stamina, since that would be the most important factor to not slip up and not give the RR army any chance while storming the place.

I continue to fail to see why Roshi and the others, being the sane persons that they are, should not be worried and apprehensive about storming the place considering what they knew at the time.

[dbzfan7]

I also find it hard to believe that a rogue army not affiliated with any country (like RR) could exist and be allowed to act freely without being at full scale war with the rest of the world. Yet, it did.

That line of thinking is pointless. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, RR army headquarters' location is at least implied to not be known prior to these events. Either way, even if it was known, like I said, before these events, Roshi and the others didn't seem to want to go to war with them, nor would it be easy to attack them in any case.

You mean, without actually seeing the base? Fire the Kamehameha blindly in the direction of the base from miles away and hope it hits? That's a great idea. Firing a equivalent to a small atom bomb in the direction of something we are not seeing and hope it hits the target intended and nothing more. Brilliant.

And no, Roshi can't pinpoint the location without seeing it. He is not a machine that all it needs is coordinates. Besides, to do such a thing he would need to be able to bend his Kamehameha to change its direction and only strike the intended target (something that he was never shown to be able to do and that even Goku only managed to do later on) without even seeing the obstacles that the attack might encounter on the way (something that even Goku never did).

Of course stamina was the most important issue. Roshi didn't believe that anyone in RR was actually stronger than he was, but, if he had to fight with hundreds or thousands of soldiers, maybe many of them as troublesome or more than Blue, armed with very powerful and dangerous weapons that could potentially kill him, any wrong move, any slowdown in his speed, any awkward movement could be enough for them to overwhelm Roshi and the others. That's exactly what I've been saying. That's why Roshi mentions stamina, since that would be the most important factor to not slip up and not give the RR army any chance while storming the place.

I continue to fail to see why Roshi and the others, being the sane persons that they are, should not be worried and apprehensive about storming the place considering what they knew at the time.

Finding the place would be easy. The soldier have shown they are cowards when they don't have control. Just interrogate one of them

You know the same people who can easily catch tiny bullets flying at them at ridiculous speeds without getting hit once.

Kamehameha THE END

[MediaFanGirl93]

I know this thread is old, but I do have moments when I hate some of my favorite characters.

1. When Android 18 was just standing there when the others simply told her to get lost when Cell was approaching. I mean, didn't she realize the dangers that would have happened if Cell found her?

2. When Future Trunks ignores Future Bulma's protests in "The History of Trunks" by going to fight the Androids. You can guess how it ends.

3. Goku giving Cell a Senzu Bean. That was just plain stupid as hell.

4. I know this is just a filler scene, but my least favorite/hated Chi-Chi moment is when she gets upset with the Ox-King and throws a TV at him when he gave her a speech about how Gohan is not a baby anymore and that he and Goku are saving the world for a better cause. Poor Ox-King.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

With Gohan being my favorite character, I didn't like how he never stuck to being a warrior. Surely when the world is in danger he's right on it, but forget relying on him to train for later and prepare for the next bad guy. I don't know who started it, either Chi-Chi or just him being him, but I only liked the first 11 years or so of Gohan.

[FortuneSSJ]

Gohan is my favourite character but I dont like the way he grew up.
When people ask me who my favourite character is, I always answer: "Teen Gohan".

Thanks Games.

[Kamiccolo9]

Gohan is my favourite character but I dont like the way he grew up.
When people ask me who my favourite character is, I always answer: "Teen Gohan".

Thanks Games.

Gohan wasn't a teen in the Cell Games.

[DarkPrince_92]

Gohan wasn't a teen in the Cell Games.

The fact that you said "Cell Games" makes it clear that it is understood which Gohan he is referring to.

[Mystic Buu]

When Bulma suggested that they should kill Gero with Dragon Balls,Vegeta disagreed.But Goku also didn't want that.I know that other Z-Fighters also agreed with Vegeta,but I didn't expect that from him because he likes battle like Vegeta but he also wants to protect Earth and people.Another scene is where Goku gave Senzu Bean to Cell.

[Kamiccolo9]

Gohan wasn't a teen in the Cell Games.

The fact that you said "Cell Games" makes it clear that it is understood which Gohan he is referring to.

That, or because he ended his post with "Thanks Games," after saying that he did not like grown-up Gohan.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

The way the video games title Gohan "teen" in Cell Games is way inaccurate. In the Manga he's supposedly 9 still. And in the Funi dub Piccolo states he's 11. (a little more believable). If he was 13 or any older he'd have a deeper voice.

[DarkPrince_92]

That's not my point. Point is, we exactly who he's talking about whether the title is accurate or not. Teen Gohan, Cell Games... simple as that.

But, you're all right. Since Budokai 1, I never thought "Teen Gohan" made any sense. Pretty sure he was like 10-11.

[FortuneSSJ]

Gohan wasn't a teen in the Cell Games.

I never said he was really a teen back then.
I added "Thanks games" in the end because that term came from there and thanks to that, I began calling him that

[Kid Buu]

Oolong - When he planning on raping Bulma, glad Yamcha saved the day there.

Buu - The stupid ki smoke during the Vegeto fight.

[jjgp1112]

Even though the Saiyaman character was true to Gohan's actual dorky personality rather than the idealized "badass" persona that fangirls make in light of Super Saiyan 2, GOD was it embarrassing seeing him act like that .

[DarkPrince_92]

Buu - The stupid ki smoke during the Vegeto fight.

THIS. If Piccolo and Gohan are part of him, what the hell made him think that little smoke maneuver would work...?

Spoiler:

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Freeza, when Trunks beat him with ease despite being metal and stronger than his former self. They made him look like nothing. I wanted him to Fight Goku at Cooler tier.

King Cold, even worse. He isnt my favourite character but could have been if he wasnt so damn weak. Him resorting to simple gulibility thinking Trunk's sword made him stronger was sad. Then he gets one-shotted like nothing, I hate when the anime does that.

Bardock, when he went SSJ... for so many reasons. Felt predictable and forced. He was more likable as a low-class nobody with earned skill.

Videl... when she cut her hair.... never liked the character since. Ruined.

Super Buu, when he absorbed Gohan. The entire fight with Vegito was just plain WTF. The worst scene was probably when he tried the Super Ghost charade, or Turned Vegito into chocolate. The dub didnt make it any better.

When Cell was turned into a joke fighting Vegeta.

Ultimate Gohan In Buu's head. His most badass scene, no stupid taunts, threats, or his usual BS. He was focused, silent and actually fighting. I hated the scene because it was how he should have been.