Inconsistencies created by filler

[TheGmGoken]

Training gains were never consistent anyway, so I don't mind it. I mean, let Chaotzu have one damn victory in this whole thing.

He did off-screen. He pasted the preliminaries of the Tenkaichi Budoaki

[DBZAOTA482]

Oh yeah, I forgot Gohan being a Super Saiyan in Episode 161 - 163 even though it's later shown during Goku's treachery on the grades of Super Saiyans is when he first achieved it.

[superfan2024]

In episode 30 of Super, Goku explains to Vegeta about the reincarnation of Buu. This makes no sense as during the EoZ tournament, Goku explains the situation to a shocked Vegeta, implying that he has never known of the reincarnation at all. The most we are to assume is that Vegeta probably forgot about what Goku said in episode 30 before the tournament. Other than that, it's still a plothole.

And a major inconsistency is Gohan's determination for fighting throughout Super. We known in the RO'F' arc that Gohan's power has decreased significantly than what it once was, but then in episode 27, Gohan tells Piccolo that he wants to get stronger in order to protect his friends and family. Piccolo then agrees and says that he'll retrain Gohan's weak body. In episode 30, they are seen training. But strangely, in episode 52, Piccolo tells Future Trunks that Gohan is not the person that he once was due to the fact that he quit fighting and martial arts. This episode makes Gohan seem as though he has nothing to do with fighting at all, and makes him seem like a normal human being. What's even more strange is that in episode 85, Gohan requests for Piccolo's training again and Piccolo says that he'll retrain Gohan's body. What he actually says is almost the exact same thing he said in episode 27. It's like Toei couldn't decide what they wanted Gohan to be in the series.

[Robo4900]

The way I see that is that Gohan did some training under Piccolo, but was a little lax on it, and they never really got much done. Later on, when he asked Piccolo again, he took it seriously, and actually started regularly training with him.

[Sailor Haumea]

So? It's still there.

My point is that it doesn't affect the plot, I'm not saying to make changes in you head. By your logic, the Cell arc can't be "canon" because Trunks says that #19 & #20 were the Artificial Humans of the past, while we later learn that they're #17 & #18, because Cell says that Future Trunks killed Freeza & Cold in his timeline, while we know that Goku killed them, and because the Time Machine was originally stated to require 6 months to charge, but later it required 3 years. Boo arc also can't be canon because Goku (Saiyan arc) is faster than Gohan (Boo arc), Kuririn & Kame-sennin (21st TB arc) are also faster that Goten & Trunks (Boo arc), and because S. Kaioshin is first implied to be weaker than SS Gohan, but later implied to be stronger than Pure Boo. Forget all these actually, the Red Ribbon Army can't be "canon" because the Dragon Balls are activated after 8 months instead of 1 year, which make everything after that "non-canon". There are probably more plot-holes in the manga, but these came to my mind.

Old Kai told Gohan to go Super Saiyan. He tried and went Ultimate instead. How much more simple can it get?

No, he told him to turn Super Saiyan and throw in a kiai.

The fact that you even have to make up all of that (because none of it is ever stated or implied) means there's a rather big plot hole. The film gave no indication that he can just choose not to use his god powers.

How is none of this stated or implied? Goku first activates a blue aura and then goes Super Saiyan God. Sure, the blue aura could be part of the transformation, but not necessarily.
As for the fight with Oob, he literally said Boo "come back as a good guy so that I can train & beat you next time". Super Saiyan God didn't come from his training, so using it on Oob would be pointless.

Isn't BOG set five years after Buu? That would make them 12 and 13. Gohan still had a distinct different look when he was 8 and when he was 13.

It is set 4 years after Boo arc from what I recall. Either way, Gohan from age 5 to age 11 isn't extremely different (Kuririn is taller than him in both cases, but not by much):

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Movie 14 has more errors than Movie 1, or Movie 8, or Movie 10, yet I don't see anyone trying to cram all of those into the continuity.

BoG has errors, but it still has room to take place. The other movies can't take place at all. DB Movies 1-3 & 10th Anniversary are retellings of previous arcs: they have Gurumes' Kingdom/RRA as main villains when Goku & Bulma meet instead of Pilaf, they have Kame-sennin sending Goku & Kuririn to find the Sleeping Princess instead of a hot girl to train them, and they have the Mifan Empire Tournament instead of the 21st TB along with other things. DBZ Movies 2-4 can only happen after Goku's return from Yardrat, but it's impossible because the Z-Senshi are much weaker than that point. Movie 6 has Dende as Kami of Earth, while Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan haven't entered inside the RoSaT, and Trunks is nowhere. Movie 7 has Goku, Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan without having entered inside the RoSaT, but the Artificial Humans are nowhere (minus the new ones). Movie 8 & PtEtSS have the Saiyans after the RoSaT, but Cell is nowhere, and no one is stressed from the Cell Games. Movie 10 takes place before the 25th TB, yet Videl knows about the Dragon Balls & Super Saiyans. Movie 11 takes after the 25th TB and the world is peaceful, but Goku is still dead. Movie 12 has Goten & Trunks knowing Fusion, the world in peace, but Goku & Vegeta are still dead.
Plus, BoG is advertised as a new chapter of the official history (whatever that means) and not a spin-off or a side story (like the other movies & GT are called), and because Toriyama is heavily involved (character designs & story are all his).

EoB also doesn't fit due to the plothole of the Supernova somehow sending Bardock back in time

How is an intentional plot device a plot hole? Huge explosions opening time rifts is very common in fiction. And it's the planet's explosion that sent him back, not Freeza's blast. He wasn't even hit by it.

numerous guidebooks and such listing that as Bardock's death.

Of course, since EoB wasn't released yet. The recent Chozenshuu though state that Bardock didn't die, as we see in EoB.

Also, you forgot Movie 9. Pretty sure it just has one error (Gohan saying he hasn't seen his father since the Cell Games in the Buu arc).

Yeah, my bad.

The calmness of everyone in Movie 8 and PTEtSS can be explained. Remember, Mr. Satan is doing his own gimmick. Presumably, he's putting everyone at ease. Goku not being Super Saiyan can be explained as him having powered down to avoid freaking out the people at the meeting - it would be weird to show up glowing with a golden aura, blonde hair, and green eyes, especially considering his legal documents would depict him with black hair, etc.

In short, movies 1, 5, 8, 9, and 13 can fit with little to no issue. PTEtSS can't fit because it hinges on Movies 3 and 4 as well as 5, and the former two aren't compatible with the main story. There's no spot where they could feasibly take place.

Though, of course, you could take the "broad strokes" approach like I do and assume *some form* of each movie happened at some point, just not exactly as depicted onscreen.

[ekrolo2]

Goku being pants shittingly afraid of regular Super Boo without fusion to fighting Kid Boo on his own who the anime consistently stresses is more powerful than Boohan is the biggest one off the top of my head.