Holy wow! This is pretty exciting news.kei17 wrote:I forgot to mention an important thing. The Q&A also says that the tankobon of Jako is going to have a bonus manga in which Gine appears.
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Holy wow! This is pretty exciting news.kei17 wrote:I forgot to mention an important thing. The Q&A also says that the tankobon of Jako is going to have a bonus manga in which Gine appears.
We don't know if this is before Planet Vegeta is blown up, though.TheGmGoken wrote:So she's alive!? Wonder where she went.kei17 wrote:I forgot to mention an important thing. The Q&A also says that the tankobon of Jako is going to have a special manga in which Gine appears.
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Yeah, I'm guessing prequel. Although... maybe it involves Gine joining the Galactic Patrol after she escapes? She's not much of a fighter, but neither are they.B wrote:We don't know if this is before Planet Vegeta is blown up, though.TheGmGoken wrote:So she's alive!? Wonder where she went.kei17 wrote:I forgot to mention an important thing. The Q&A also says that the tankobon of Jako is going to have a special manga in which Gine appears.
Yeah, it really never made any sense whatsoever. In the special, she's shown there with Bardock a gazillion miles away from the newborn Goku, asking Bardock "hey, didn't you have a son recently?" The idea that she's Goku's mother is completely at odds with this.For what it's worth too, I've never really bought into the 'Selypa is Goku's mom' thing.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Apparently every Saiyan is turning Good.penguintruth wrote:FFS
Can't anything remain a mystery? What, is Goku's mother ALSO a time-travelling Super Saiyan who is really good inside?
Is Funimation writing Dragon Ball material for Japan now?
Oh my Kami,I am going to have a heart attack.This day is too good to be true.kei17 wrote:I forgot to mention an important thing. The Q&A also says that the tankobon of Jako is going to have a bonus manga in which Gine appears.
I would pay good money to have her meet her grandchildren. Can you imagine her fawning over Goten and Pan?Gyt Kaliba wrote:Yes, because one additional Saiyan from the past that is 'good' is totally the end of the world, and totally means FUNimation is mind-controlling Toriyama now. Right.![]()
None of the added stuff has changed it to where all Saiyans were suddenly good. Seems to me all it's added, with Super Saiyan God's backstory anyway, is that there were goodhearted Saiyans...and they kinda got killed out for not fitting with the norm. That seems pretty believable to me, more so than a race that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is somehow of of a hivemind about being completely evil.
You're missing the point.Gyt Kaliba wrote:Yes, because one additional Saiyan from the past that is 'good' is totally the end of the world, and totally means FUNimation is mind-controlling Toriyama now. Right.![]()
None of the added stuff has changed it to where all Saiyans were suddenly good. Seems to me all it's added, with Super Saiyan God's backstory anyway, is that there were goodhearted Saiyans...and they kinda got killed out for not fitting with the norm. That seems pretty believable to me, more so than a race that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is somehow of of a hivemind about being completely evil.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
That's what I love about such things. It may be the fact that I do research (like university, science etc) work in real life and so try to fill in all the gaps in human knowledge (I know it's impossible but it doesn't prevent me from trying) but I love such "overexplaining". For me the franchise is much better out withot those "traces of mystique" - if it was for me to decide, I'd hire Toriyama to present DB fans with detailed outline of every single day in the history of the world of DB.penguintruth wrote: You're missing the point.
This deifying of everyone related to Goku and the making of everybody a Super Saiyan. And the ridiculous practice of trying to over explain everything.
The franchise has lost all traces of mystique.
I agree that there's an over deifying of Goku, but it still seems like you're blowing this way out of proportion. It's an extra chapter/pages thing. At the end of a gag manga that serves as a prequel, done years after the actual manga. It's so easy to ignore it exists if it bothers you that badly, I would think. That and, jumping from Goku's mom or 'original Super Saiyan' to something like Bulma's childhood babysitter's mother's cousin is a pretty big leap (though I get that's mostly for sarcastic effect to make your point). Whether it's something you personally want to see, there IS story potential for the first two; there wouldn't be for the latter.penguintruth wrote:You're missing the point.
This deifying of everyone related to Goku and the making of everybody a Super Saiyan. And the ridiculous practice of trying to over explain everything.
The franchise has lost all traces of mystique. In a few months we'll know Bulma's childhood babysitter's mother's cousin's favorite soap brand. I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THIS OR WHO GOKU'S MOTHER IS. EVER.
I don't need to know who was the first Super Saiyan. I don't need to know about Freeza's family. I don't need to know about Goku's mother. I never needed to know who the REAL Legendary Super Saiyan is. Frankly, I'm happy to know that there's a great big universe out there full of mysteries and NOT be told all the answers to the questions.
Well, this ISN'T science. Science should relentlessly pursue all the answers.Tzigi wrote:That's what I love about such things. It may be the fact that I do research (like university, science etc) work in real life and so try to fill in all the gaps in human knowledge (I know it's impossible but it doesn't prevent me from trying) but I love such "overexplaining". For me the franchise is much better out withot those "traces of mystique" - if it was for me to decide, I'd hire Toriyama to present DB fans with detailed outline of every single day in the history of the world of DB.penguintruth wrote: You're missing the point.
This deifying of everyone related to Goku and the making of everybody a Super Saiyan. And the ridiculous practice of trying to over explain everything.
The franchise has lost all traces of mystique.
Yeah, I'm the kind of person who loved the introduction of midi-chlorians into the Star Wars universe (also reading every strory in the EU there and loving every instance of overexplaining there - as anywhere else).
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Wow,calm down buddy.penguintruth wrote:Well, this ISN'T science. Science should relentlessly pursue all the answers.Tzigi wrote:That's what I love about such things. It may be the fact that I do research (like university, science etc) work in real life and so try to fill in all the gaps in human knowledge (I know it's impossible but it doesn't prevent me from trying) but I love such "overexplaining". For me the franchise is much better out withot those "traces of mystique" - if it was for me to decide, I'd hire Toriyama to present DB fans with detailed outline of every single day in the history of the world of DB.penguintruth wrote: You're missing the point.
This deifying of everyone related to Goku and the making of everybody a Super Saiyan. And the ridiculous practice of trying to over explain everything.
The franchise has lost all traces of mystique.
Yeah, I'm the kind of person who loved the introduction of midi-chlorians into the Star Wars universe (also reading every strory in the EU there and loving every instance of overexplaining there - as anywhere else).
Narratives, FICTION, not only shouldn't, but can't, because then it destroys the imaginative function of fiction. Fiction need only pursue the answers relevant to the narrative at hand.
And believe me, as soon as they introduce Goku's mother, even if it's in a gag manga, that's it. Toei will pick that up. Toei will use that and bleed it dry. Just look at Bardock. Bardock used to be a mass-murderer who utterly failed. Now? A time-travelling hero and the very first Super Saiyan. Goku's mother will be in all the new video games with the one new feature each time and slightly different costumes that they churn out every two minutes from awful companies. She'll be an action figure. She'll have a TV special or a short. You know it will happen. IT WILL HAPPEN.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I'm sick of this crap.
That's how I initially felt about Table, but in retrospect, it's how unexpected it is that makes me like it this way instead.The Monkey King wrote:Kinda dissapointed, I wanted Goku's mother to be a fighting saiyan badass.
Not sure if was a responds to me. But I was being sarcastic. But ya know. Internet kinda doesn't show that. To me honesty. Good Saiyans have make good character development for the Saiyan race. But I agree that everyone related to Goku being a Good Saiyan is getting to much. Goku influence people to be good. Goku wasn't around when his mommy was "Good". I honestly wanted her to be similar to Raditz or even Turles. We already got to many "Good" saiyans running around. I can deal with Heroes. But everyone becoming a SSJ in the series(well...I know DB has non canon..but the point is that it happened) is kinda annoying. Hell I liked Bardock more(Coming from a person who liked EOB) when he was a failure.Gyt Kaliba wrote:Yes, because one additional Saiyan from the past that is 'good' is totally the end of the world, and totally means FUNimation is mind-controlling Toriyama now. Right.![]()
None of the added stuff has changed it to where all Saiyans were suddenly good. Seems to me all it's added, with Super Saiyan God's backstory anyway, is that there were goodhearted Saiyans...and they kinda got killed out for not fitting with the norm. That seems pretty believable to me, more so than a race that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is somehow of of a hivemind about being completely evil.
...Jesus guy.penguintruth wrote:Well, this ISN'T science. Science should relentlessly pursue all the answers.
Narratives, FICTION, not only shouldn't, but can't, because then it destroys the imaginative function of fiction. Fiction need only pursue the answers relevant to the narrative at hand.
And believe me, as soon as they introduce Goku's mother, even if it's in a gag manga, that's it. Toei will pick that up. Toei will use that and bleed it dry. Just look at Bardock. Bardock used to be a mass-murderer who utterly failed. Now? A time-travelling hero and the very first Super Saiyan. Goku's mother will be in all the new video games with the one new feature each time and slightly different costumes that they churn out every two minutes from awful companies. She'll be an action figure. She'll have a TV special or a short. You know it will happen. IT WILL HAPPEN.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I'm sick of this crap.
DBZ ended after the Frieza Saga.Goku wrote:You haven't figured it out yet? I'm the Saiyan who came all the way from Earth for the sole purpose of beating you. I am the warrior you've heard of in legends, pure of heart and awakened by fury. That's what I am. I AM THE SUPER SAIYAN, SON GOKU!