So what exactly is this SSGSS?

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:21 pm

Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan while he had god ki in BOG, but that doesn't mean it was actually using said god powers. If Super Saiyan was increasing his god ki the way it normally does his regular energy, he should have stomped Beerus since he was already over half as strong as him according to Toriyama's Godku-6 and Beerus-10 power scaling.
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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bullza » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:19 pm

So the multiplier from Base Goku to BSSJG must be pretty small right? It'd surely be no more than twice as strong if it's even that much.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by rereboy » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:01 pm

Goku's new color should be orange. Red + Yellow = Orange.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bullza » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:31 pm

That's what I thought, if this BSSJG is supposed to be a mixture of SSJ (Yellow) and SSJ God (Red) then he should be having Orange hair. Though seeing as he already has a full Orange Gi, it wouldn't look right at all.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:35 pm

Call me crazy, but didn't his aura look orangeish during a brief part of one of the trailers?
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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:01 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Call me crazy, but didn't his aura look orangeish during a brief part of one of the trailers?
I think that was Goku tapping into the SSJG power his body initially absorbed in the second battle against Beerus in BOG.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bacon Skittles » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:37 pm

I think Super Saiyan God should have looked somewhere along the lines of False Super Saiyan.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Dyno » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:46 pm

Or a mix between them both. Could work. :think:

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bullza » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:27 pm

Has Kei said what it's aura looks like yet?

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:59 pm

Bullza wrote:Has Kei said what it's aura looks like yet?
Well, it's stated in the synopsis of the movie is that Goku when Goku becomes a "Saiyan Beyond God", that he is surrounded by "an ethereal blue aura."

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bullza » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:10 pm

An etheral blue aura... I hardly know what that's supposed to mean but if the RSSJG's aura was like a flame then the BSSJG's aura could be gentler and like water perhaps.

When Goku became a God in the last movie didn't he have some blue aura at first? Whether that ties into it or is just a coincidence though who knows.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Dyno » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:16 pm

I admit I also don't know what "etheral" means and I was too shy to ask. :lol:

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:19 pm

Xenoverse has a blue and gold aura next to Freeza's Golden form aura. Hard to say if that's accurate to the film though, except for those who have seen it.

The character model's are mods, but the aura is legitimate and has just replaced the character's original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Zm1NK ... e=youtu.be
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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Dyno » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:29 pm

Well, the blue-ice hair and the blue-ish things that keep around the body it's pretty... Beautiful. :wink: Liked it.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bullza » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:35 pm

If that's what it actually ends up looking like in the film I'd be fine with that. I do like the colour of that hair and the aura looks nice too though it could do with looking a bit...I guess fuller would be the word? It looks a little light compared to the very noticeable and rich looking flame aura he had before.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Black_Liger » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:07 am

I think I found my head canon for the color blue of this form.


The original aura of the Super saiyan god was like fire (red hair, red fire-like aura) right? but it was not mastered, now this form is mastered so the fire has increased it's power, like real life fire, it burns with enough power to become blue.
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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:21 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The character model's are mods, but the aura is legitimate and has just replaced the character's original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Zm1NK ... e=youtu.be
Wow. I gotta admit, if it looks like that in the movie, it would look pretty cool. :)

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:07 am

rereboy wrote:Goku's new color should be orange. Red + Yellow = Orange.
Probably would've worked too if this shot is any indication.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Barunks » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:01 am

Bullza wrote:So the multiplier from Base Goku to BSSJG must be pretty small right? It'd surely be no more than twice as strong if it's even that much.
That's how I see it. I never actually thought that super saiyan god was more than twice as strong as super saiyan 3, so assuming his base now works like Gohan's mystic form (SSJ3 tier for the sake of simplicity) then I would assume only a 2x multiplier for blue super saiyan. This is also assuming blue and red are equal of course which may not actually be true.

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Re: So what exactly is this Blue Super Saiyan God?

Post by Bullza » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:49 am

So how did Vegeta become a God then? The summary never makes a mention of that but from the looks of it he's already as strong as Goku from the get go. Did he go through the ritual and absorb the power as well?

Are they both already capable of becoming a BSSJG at the start of the film or is that something they learn mid way through by training with Whis?

And if they turn into a BSSJG when they turn Super Saiyan then what would happen If they tried to turn into a Super Saiyan 2 or 3? Would they power up further?

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