Are you enjoying the Black Arc so far?

[Lord Beerus]

The newest episode of Super, episode 56, is not only the best the show has provided by a wide margin, but it's also one of the best episodes the anime franchise has ever produced. So as of right now, the Goku Black has officialy cracked into my top five favourite arcs of the entire franchise.

I'd agree for the most part, however I'm still reserving judgement until the arc wraps up. Part of me believes something predictable may happen like Goku defeating Black, and redeeming Zamasu (and that's saying something because Goku is my favourite character). If it does the arc will at least still be in my top 10, and it will still be the best arc the series has had in nearly 20 years.

That's why I said, "as of right now", because shit could happen which could affect the overall quality of the arc.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Last episode silenced all my remaining fears. I feel this battle will be drawn out and we may not have even seen the full extent of power Zamasu/Black will reach.

If next episode is as strong as this one the arc could rival DBZ era IMO

[Shinomori]

This last episode was great, but I'm going to be a downer here. It was great, but there are a lot of signs pointing toward me being very disappointed with it when all is said and done. For one, the button Zeno gave Goku. If Zeno is as powerful as the show making it seem he is, then Goku is going to push the button and all problems will be solved. Face it people, Goku hasn't had a solid win since his first bout with Frieza. Every battle he's had so far he either lost, was going to lose, or had a lot of help to defeat his enemy. Some other signs are the massive plot holes. It hadn't been explained yet, but I have the feeling the Zamasu who showed up at the end of this episode, is the same Zamasu from the current timeline. It could be "Future Zamasu", but all indications are currently pointing to this Zamasu being the same one Goku met in universe 10. My question is, how did that Zamasu show up in the alternate future of Trunks? If he used a time ring to go to the future, why not the future of the present timeline? Of course, this plothole is already present with the time machine Goku and the others used to return to the alternate future.

All that being said, I feel like this arc is over 80% done, if not 90%. It seems things are wrapping up much too quickly. We already have Black transforming into his new Rose form, so I doubt he will get much stronger than he is right now. Vegeta already had his fight with Black, so that portion is wrapped up in spite of Vegeta making a big fuss about how much he was going to make Black pay. Remember, in Z, Vegeta's fights would span episodes. This one wrapped up within a couple of minutes. So I see this arc going for around another 10 episodes or possibly less. (Remember, once Goku push the button, it's all over)




I do have a prediction about who Black is. If the Zamasu who showed up is "present" Zamasu, then I believe Black is "Future" Zamasu. So two Zamasus

[precita]

As long as the arc doesn't end terribly or anti-climatic, it probably is shaping up to be one of the best arcs of the franchise. I'm hesitant to put it ahead of any of DBZ's arcs, mainly because it focuses on so few characters and will likely be a lot shorter, but its still pretty good.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

As long as the arc doesn't end terribly or anti-climatic, it probably is shaping up to be one of the best arcs of the franchise. I'm hesitant to put it ahead of any of DBZ's arcs, mainly because it focuses on so few characters and will likely be a lot shorter, but its still pretty good.

Short is good though. The stuff that happened in the recent episode a lot happened in Part B back in Z it took a whole episode for Goku to transform in SS on Namek here we got Base Black vs Vegeta. Then Blacks transformation then Rosé Black vs Vegeta. Then the start of Rosé vs Goku and finally ended at the arrival Zamasu.

This arc is easily topping Cell and Buu arc in my opinion. If this arc keeps up and ends satisfyingly it may overtake Saiyan-Freeza arc for me.

[Anime Kitten]

Yes, #56 is now my favorite episode of the series. We got explanation, battling, blood, revelation, and cliffhanger. That's a good episode of Dragon Ball in my book.

[LightBing]

This arc is definitely being above average taking into account Dragon Ball as a whole. Both villains Zamasu and Goku Black have been excellent, in terms of mystery it's being one of the best. It has the plus of greatly expanding the lore of the series.
It's is the best arc of Super yet, unless they screw up what's to come. I don't believe the arc it's gonna end anytime soon.

[Lord Frieza]

Simple put yes. My main thing is Black himself. He may even overtake Frieza as my favourite villain.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Simple put yes. My main thing is Black himself. He may even overtake Frieza as my favourite villain.

A big compliment coming from you then since Freeza is in your username

Black has been great but I am fearing another Bane from TDKR where he'll ultimately fizzle out (die a lazily way) and it'll be about Zamasu and Goku. Biggest concern currently.

[SSJ Human]

I'm leaning toward the arc being mostly done by now, even though I really wish we could see some more of pretty much every character they've introduced. I really hope this isn't the end but I can't be certain.

[fadeddreams5]

I like the ideas and intrigue in this arc, and I love the villains. It makes me wish it wasn't an arc in Super, and had instead been drawn and written by Toriyama in the '90s, and aired as a fleshed out DBZ saga instead. At the moment, it feels like a rushed product, and there's a lot of things in the execution that irritate me beyond belief.

Frankly, if Super started with this arc, dedicated the majority of episodes to building a major story centered around it, and had animation on par with, at the very least, other popular shonen shows like Hunter x Hunter or even Naruto, I would be a very satisfied fan.

[Faisal Shourov]

I like the ideas and intrigue in this arc, and I love the villains. It makes me wish it wasn't an arc in Super, and had instead been drawn and written by Toriyama in the '90s, and aired as a fleshed out DBZ saga instead. At the moment, it feels like a rushed product, and there's a lot of things in the execution that irritate me beyond belief.

Frankly, if Super started with this arc, dedicated the majority of episodes to building a major story centered around it, and had animation on par with, at the very least, other popular shonen shows like Hunter x Hunter or even Naruto, I would be a very satisfied fan.

Naruto anime has terrible animation and art. The Naruto vs Pain fight was on par with Beerus vs Goku on king kai's planet

[fadeddreams5]

I like the ideas and intrigue in this arc, and I love the villains. It makes me wish it wasn't an arc in Super, and had instead been drawn and written by Toriyama in the '90s, and aired as a fleshed out DBZ saga instead. At the moment, it feels like a rushed product, and there's a lot of things in the execution that irritate me beyond belief.

Frankly, if Super started with this arc, dedicated the majority of episodes to building a major story centered around it, and had animation on par with, at the very least, other popular shonen shows like Hunter x Hunter or even Naruto, I would be a very satisfied fan.

Naruto anime has terrible animation and art. The Naruto vs Pain fight was on par with Beerus vs Goku on king kai's planet

Honestly, I don't watch much Naruto. But I've seen several fights that look great. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as Super.

[Faisal Shourov]

Naruto anime has terrible animation and art. The Naruto vs Pain fight was on par with Beerus vs Goku on king kai's planet

Honestly, I don't watch much Naruto. But I've seen several fights that look great.[/quote]

Naruto Shippuden actually has more fights than Dragon Ball (because Naruto has much more relevant characters). That's why some fights look great, but most are really awful like Super's

[Lord Frieza]

Simple put yes. My main thing is Black himself. He may even overtake Frieza as my favourite villain.

A big compliment coming from you then since Freeza is in your username

Black has been great but I am fearing another Bane from TDKR where he'll ultimately fizzle out (die a lazily way) and it'll be about Zamasu and Goku. Biggest concern currently.

Mine too, really I would like them both to share the spotlight for the most part as they both are very interesting characters with a lot to offer. I hope that Black remains the primary threat even if Zamasu is the puppet master. I get the feeling that since fusion was mentioned they might actually fuse and we get the best of both.

The thing that stops me from worrying to much is that is Black fighting Goku in the next episode not Zamasu, who is fighting Trunks. I am hoping that Black is actually the stronger of the two which, combined with the mystery surrounding him, hopefully means he is still are main threat. Something like Zamasu is Gero and Black is Cell, one started it but the other is the real threat.

[Chuquita]

That Naoki Tate and King Ryû combination in 56 was wonderful. I hope they get to collaborate again on Super.

[ChronoTwigger]

Super was intended to get DB to the next level, by exploring battles against divine figures.This arc deliver what Super promised.
In many JRPG, time come for the heroes to reach the divine sphere of their worlds. While previous arcs introduced an higher cosmology, just hinted in Buu saga, this one really deliver what Super was conceived for... kami ni idomu bashu...
SO FAR it was enough complex, coherent and misterious. So, indeed, I like it.

Beside that:
A: ZENO BUTTON IS NOT AN H-BOMB. Zeno give it to Goku to reach him and play together, not to have a partner in battle. Beerus was very concerned about Zeno intervention in this mess, as the solution could be to destroy the entire universe. Not really a solution!

B: THE ARC COULD LAST MORE. That's 'cause, in episode #56, SSBlue wasn't even enough to scar Black. Black Rosè was even stronger and now you got an "immortal Zamasu" that will be even stronger. On the opposite side: pierced Vegeta, Not-even-Blue Trunks and "Beerus can kick my ass already" Goku.
So, this first fight could just end with a defeat, and the last battle will be delayed (=other episodes) to find the correct weapon (new forms? Fusions? A very new kind of power?).
I think this arc could easily reach episode #75, and leave the last set of episodes to the tournament.

[TheMikado]

I didn't want to post in here originally because I didn't want to rain on others parade, but I see there are a lot of people that feel like me. I really really want to like this arc as it seems to be returning to more DBZ style storytelling but I'm extremely skeptically that we won't get the a$$pull trump card or something. I just don't know what to feel yet since it's not over yet.. I'm definitely in the wait and see camp but I at least feel like the boat is headed in the right direction now.

[Polyphase Avatron]

One thing I'll say is that I like how there is actual tension now. Vegeta is down for the count, Goku is up against one enemy that's stronger than him and another one who is immune to his attacks, and Beerus and Whis aren't around to bail him out. The only cop out/Deus ex Machina that he still has access to is summoning Zeno, but considering how dangerous and unstable the guy is supposed to be, and how Beerus said he would be very upset if he learned about all of this time travel stuff, that very well might make the situation worse.

[Freeza9000]

This arc is starting to become one of the best things to ever come out of Dragon Ball Super. It's quite refreshing to see an arc full of genuine tension, stakes, suspense and drama, which none of the previous arc have ever possessed those aspects in their writing. I can actually feel that the characters are in deep shit especially the moment when Black and Zamasu end up dominating Goku, Vegeta and Trunks. Not to mention, Zamasu is the only canon villain to ever achieve immortality with no failures, unlike Freeza and Vegeta. I really wonder how Zamasu is going to be stopped. I also have a gut feeling that Gowasu is not going to have a great fate as he's probably going to be executed by Zamasu, his one student.

Although the idea of an evil Goku may seem like horrible piece of shit fanfiction, I definitely relish the execution of that character in this arc. Especially Nozawa's performance as it sends chills down my spine and sounds like a genuine evil version of Goku. It is also better and interesting than how the character of Turles was executed.

The music has definitely took a turn as well. No more reuse of the previous BOG and ROF soundtracks. There are new themes that actually convey the utter terror and hell of Trunks' future, especially these themes:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkEQCLFWhyE
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up58wQFPGzI
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxZOGpdFIJU
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQgVLjBa-rs
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXT3_baztYs