In the end, Master Roshi outperformed both Krillin and Tenshinhan, by a lot...

[Zagacious]

In term of power, Ganos is portrayed as a powerful opponent that can be a problem even for Goku

People need to stop spreading this obviously false rumor, I'm starting to see it everywhere now all based on a three second clip. Ganos attempted to attack Goku for about 3 seconds and Goku knocked him back, if anything that indicates he is nothing compared to Goku, but it really doesn't tell us much of anything beyond that. People are jumping to wild conclusions that just because Goku didn't one shot him that he's god level or something, pretty ridiculous. They assume the same thing with Dyspo, who had no chance against Goku who was just toying around and couldn't even land a punch on him and they start saying ridiculous claims like Goku was struggling.. I sometimes wonder if these people are even watching the same series.

Roshi didn't even really need to try that hard to beat Ganos. Yeah he was exhausted afterwards, but if you look at the actual fight Ganos was dominated. He only got like 2 good hits on Roshi the entire time. He defeated him more with power than strategy, in the end it was the Kamehameha that won and that is pure power not strategy. If Roshi can outpower Ganos, no matter how much Roshi has trained, then there's no way he could compete in any way even with base Goku.

[Boo Machine]

In term of power, Ganos is portrayed as a powerful opponent that can be a problem even for Goku

People need to stop spreading this obviously false rumor, I'm starting to see it everywhere now all based on a three second clip. Ganos attempted to attack Goku for about 3 seconds and Goku knocked him back, if anything that indicates he is nothing compared to Goku, but it really doesn't tell us much of anything beyond that. People are jumping to wild conclusions that just because Goku didn't one shot him that he's god level or something, pretty ridiculous.

Roshi didn't even really need to try that hard to beat Ganos. Yeah he was exhausted afterwards, but if you look at the actual fight Ganos was dominated. He only got like 2 good hits on Roshi the entire time. He defeated him more with power than strategy, in the end it was the Kamehameha that won and that is pure power not strategy. If Roshi can outpower Ganos, no matter how much Roshi has trained, then there's no way he could compete in any way even with base Goku.

The reason people said that is because Ganos has this ability where is just constantly gets stronger, according to his God of destruction. That and Roshi says if he doesn't beat him now he MAY trip up Goku and the others. Which could be seen as a problem.

[Zagacious]

In term of power, Ganos is portrayed as a powerful opponent that can be a problem even for Goku

People need to stop spreading this obviously false rumor, I'm starting to see it everywhere now all based on a three second clip. Ganos attempted to attack Goku for about 3 seconds and Goku knocked him back, if anything that indicates he is nothing compared to Goku, but it really doesn't tell us much of anything beyond that. People are jumping to wild conclusions that just because Goku didn't one shot him that he's god level or something, pretty ridiculous.

Roshi didn't even really need to try that hard to beat Ganos. Yeah he was exhausted afterwards, but if you look at the actual fight Ganos was dominated. He only got like 2 good hits on Roshi the entire time. He defeated him more with power than strategy, in the end it was the Kamehameha that won and that is pure power not strategy. If Roshi can outpower Ganos, no matter how much Roshi has trained, then there's no way he could compete in any way even with base Goku.

The reason people said that is because Ganos has this ability where is just constantly gets stronger, according to his God of destruction. That and Roshi says if he doesn't beat him now he MAY trip up Goku and the others. Which could be seen as a problem.

Which was obviously very exaggerated, they said the same thing about Bergamo and he was defeated very easily. Ganos has had plenty of time before fighting Roshi to build up power, after this amount of time he can't even stand a chance against Roshi then his max power is probably not very significant. If they wanted to stress that his power continually grows and is actually a threat, they could have actually shown it that way instead of having Roshi randomly say he may become a threat to Goku and the others which doesn't make much sense based on what we saw Ganos do before.

It was kind of a joke in DBZ where the humans/Gohan/Piccolo would always say "This guys so strong I bet even Goku might have a challenge" to a new villain, when we know Goku's probably going to defeat him anyways, I saw it as nothing more than that because of how easily he was eliminated.

[Boo Machine]

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Which was obviously very exaggerated, they said the same thing about Bergamo and he was defeated very easily. Ganos has had plenty of time before fighting Roshi to build up power, after this amount of time he can't even stand a chance against Roshi then his max power is probably not very significant. If they wanted to stress that his power continually grows and is actually a threat, they could have actually shown it that way instead of having Roshi randomly say he may become a threat to Goku and the others which doesn't make much sense based on what we saw Ganos do before.

It was kind of a joke in DBZ where the humans/Gohan/Piccolo would say "This guys so strong I bet even Goku might have a challenge" when we know Goku's probably going to defeat him anyways, I saw it as nothing more than that because of how easily he was eliminated.

"Plenty of time" and "amount of time" isn't very realiable when episodes are only 1 or 2 minutes long in universe time. Regardless if you believe it or not, that's the reason. It's a power he has and was told to us and shown to us. Granted not in a fantastic fashion, it's still not hard to imagine that perhaps he could be a little trouble, even if not just to Goku specifically.

[Zagacious]

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Which was obviously very exaggerated, they said the same thing about Bergamo and he was defeated very easily. Ganos has had plenty of time before fighting Roshi to build up power, after this amount of time he can't even stand a chance against Roshi then his max power is probably not very significant. If they wanted to stress that his power continually grows and is actually a threat, they could have actually shown it that way instead of having Roshi randomly say he may become a threat to Goku and the others which doesn't make much sense based on what we saw Ganos do before.

It was kind of a joke in DBZ where the humans/Gohan/Piccolo would say "This guys so strong I bet even Goku might have a challenge" when we know Goku's probably going to defeat him anyways, I saw it as nothing more than that because of how easily he was eliminated.

"Plenty of time" and "amount of time" isn't very realiable when episodes are only 1 or 2 minutes long in universe time. Regardless if you believe it or not, that's the reason. It's a power he has and was told to us and shown to us. Granted not in a fantastic fashion, it's still not hard to imagine that perhaps he could be a little trouble, even if not just to Goku specifically.

Ganos having the ability to constantly gain power yet still barely being able to keep up with Roshi is a pretty far-fetched reasoning for thinking he could become anywhere near Goku's power. Someone commenting that he could be trouble for Goku later doesn't explain it either, it in fact contradicts what was shown.

[Boo Machine]

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Which was obviously very exaggerated, they said the same thing about Bergamo and he was defeated very easily. Ganos has had plenty of time before fighting Roshi to build up power, after this amount of time he can't even stand a chance against Roshi then his max power is probably not very significant. If they wanted to stress that his power continually grows and is actually a threat, they could have actually shown it that way instead of having Roshi randomly say he may become a threat to Goku and the others which doesn't make much sense based on what we saw Ganos do before.

It was kind of a joke in DBZ where the humans/Gohan/Piccolo would say "This guys so strong I bet even Goku might have a challenge" when we know Goku's probably going to defeat him anyways, I saw it as nothing more than that because of how easily he was eliminated.

"Plenty of time" and "amount of time" isn't very realiable when episodes are only 1 or 2 minutes long in universe time. Regardless if you believe it or not, that's the reason. It's a power he has and was told to us and shown to us. Granted not in a fantastic fashion, it's still not hard to imagine that perhaps he could be a little trouble, even if not just to Goku specifically.

Him having the ability to constantly gain power yet still barely being able to keep up with Roshi is a pretty far-fetched reasoning for thinking he could become anywhere near Goku's power.

Luckily I made sure to mention that he may not be Gokus problem. Roshi mentions Goku and the others and he said "trip up" not "beat". They made sure to be vague about how much power Ganos gets so, yeah, maybe it is far fetched, maybe it's not. The point is he DOES get stronger and that MIGHT be a problem.

[Zagacious]

"Plenty of time" and "amount of time" isn't very realiable when episodes are only 1 or 2 minutes long in universe time. Regardless if you believe it or not, that's the reason. It's a power he has and was told to us and shown to us. Granted not in a fantastic fashion, it's still not hard to imagine that perhaps he could be a little trouble, even if not just to Goku specifically.

Him having the ability to constantly gain power yet still barely being able to keep up with Roshi is a pretty far-fetched reasoning for thinking he could become anywhere near Goku's power.

Luckily I made sure to mention that he may not be Gokus problem. Roshi mentions Goku and the others and he said "trip up" not "beat". They made sure to be vague about how much power Ganos gets so, yeah, maybe it is far fetched, maybe it's not. The point is he DOES get stronger and that MIGHT be a problem.

That's fine if you understand it, then you're not the type of person spreading a false rumor like I was referring to in my quote. They said Ganos may even be a trouble for Goku, which implies he would get somewhere within close power of Goku. I am constantly seeing this now accepted as if it's a fact when it's a huge stretch to begin with and there's barely any evidence for it beyond saying his power has no limit which wasn't exactly stated either.

[Olympian]

Tien is trash. Even though he wasted a lot of screen time, at least he didn't partner up with Piccolo or have any real interaction with him. That would have been even worse.

As long Ten, Krillin, Yamucha and Piccolo hardly ever interact with Vegeta, they`re all okay in my book, no matter how badly they`re handled.

[supercat]

Why? Having some positive kind of affiliation with Vegeta is what makes them look better. Heck, Krillin even stood up for Vegeta when Tien went into coward-mode (not that he ever came out of it) and began doubting his loyalty.

Tien and Yamcha have pretty bland designs, and they honestly don't complement Piccolo well from an art perspective. Vegeta would look that much better with Piccolo. Frieza would also complement Piccolo rather well. I'm still hoping for Piccolo to get on his knees and accept Frieza as his master. Frieza would love it since he wanted to recruit Nail back in the Saiyan Saga.

Piccolo, Yamcha, Tien, and Krillin should all split up and stay close to the Saiyans instead.

[Olympian]

Why? Having some positive kind of affiliation with Vegeta is what makes them look better. Heck, Krillin even stood up for Vegeta when Tien went into coward-mode (not that he ever came out of it) and began doubting his loyalty.

Tien and Yamcha have pretty bland designs, and they honestly don't complement Piccolo well from an art perspective. Vegeta would look that much better with Piccolo. Frieza would also complement Piccolo rather well. I'm still hoping for Piccolo to get on his knees and accept Frieza as his master. Frieza would love it since he wanted to recruit Nail back in the Saiyan Saga.

Piccolo, Yamcha, Tien, and Krillin should all split up and stay close to the Saiyans instead.

There`s nothing to gain. If Vegeta wants men servants he can go and ask Freeza some if Bulma can`t afford it. The rest of the main cast are former arc protagonists and whether they aren`t used as top fighters any longer, their characters aren`t to be scrutinize to that sort of fanfiction.

[supercat]

Why? Having some positive kind of affiliation with Vegeta is what makes them look better. Heck, Krillin even stood up for Vegeta when Tien went into coward-mode (not that he ever came out of it) and began doubting his loyalty.

Tien and Yamcha have pretty bland designs, and they honestly don't complement Piccolo well from an art perspective. Vegeta would look that much better with Piccolo. Frieza would also complement Piccolo rather well. I'm still hoping for Piccolo to get on his knees and accept Frieza as his master. Frieza would love it since he wanted to recruit Nail back in the Saiyan Saga.

Piccolo, Yamcha, Tien, and Krillin should all split up and stay close to the Saiyans instead.

There`s nothing to gain. If Vegeta wants men servants he can go and ask Freeza some if Bulma can`t afford it. The rest of the main cast are former arc protagonists and whether they aren`t used as top fighters any longer, their characters aren`t to be scrutinize to that sort of fanfiction.

Why would Vegeta ask Frieza for anything?

Piccolo has also shown that he will align himself with an enemy if he needs to. If it came down to him and Frieza, pretty sure he would humble himself and politely ask Frieza to work with him. It would actually be pretty cool, and is something I'd much rather see over Piccolo having anything to do with Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, or Roshi. A Frieza and Piccolo would be awesome until Frieza accidentally destroys him. And then he'd probably be wondering why he skipped out on training with Goku and Vegeta.

[JazzHands]

It's clear that they are making up for the 300 episodes and 30 years of irrelevance for Roshi.

[Olympian]

Why would Vegeta ask Frieza for anything?

It`s no less fanfiction than some ideas up in the air.

Piccolo has also shown that he will align himself with an enemy if he needs to. If it came down to him and Frieza, pretty sure he would humble himself and politely ask Frieza to work with him. It would actually be pretty cool, and is something I'd much rather see over Piccolo having anything to do with Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, or Roshi. A Frieza and Piccolo would be awesome until Frieza accidentally destroys him. And then he'd probably be wondering why he skipped out on training with Goku and Vegeta.

He`s shown willingness in aligning himself with an enemy he had a personal investement with, like it was the case of Goku. That`s the serious answer. The not so serious answer is that you just want to get a kick out of viewing characters that don`t fit in your personal criteria of worthy to undermine themselves.