In the end, Master Roshi outperformed both Krillin and Tenshinhan, by a lot...

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In the end, Master Roshi outperformed both Krillin and Tenshinhan, by a lot...

Post by blackbewhite2k7 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:58 pm

Strongest human? Strongest human...

Side note...what's so bad about taking a sniper who was giving your best team mates a hard time out along with you?

Getting two people out of bounds before taking a dive is a WAY better showing than half the other contestants who've lost got.

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Post by precita » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:01 pm

They obviously gave him the best showing to justify why Goku would bring him into the tournament. He is the weakest character there and outsmarted his enemies with techniques rather than raw power. The guys Krillin fought were obviously a lot stronger than who Roshi faced.

Overall though it was obvious Roshi would do well. You don't bring in a character retired for all of DBZ not to do anything with him.

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Post by MainJPW » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:08 pm

Roshi did absolutely nothing to prove he's the strongest Earthling by any means. It's good to see he's using technique and experience to take care of certain opponents though.
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Post by IntoTheFire » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:09 pm

Roshi certainly did way better than I expected. I thought he would be the first to go out.
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Post by Big Black Sayian » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:11 pm

Never underestimate Roshi

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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:27 pm

If Roshi could bukujutsu… heh…
Actually, I hope Krillin will return in next arc.

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Post by Animelover5487 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:40 pm

In terms of power, he did nothing that would indicate he's stronger than Kuririn. He may be stronger than Ten though, going by how their fight in the recruitment episode turned out. Anyway, Roshi has better techniques than both of them and the characters he fought were pretty weak (especially Caway) and even against the somewhat stronger ones like Ganos he used skill, technique and his own life force to win.

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Post by garfield15 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:55 pm

Truly, Roshi is the strongest human. Never doubted it

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Post by Kanious » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:57 pm

Do anyone remember the lots of herbs [ganja?! haha] that Roshi has eaten on the beginning of the arc? Didn't that made him strong?

I don't know if he is already stronger than Krilin or Tien, but he is smarter as a fighter.
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Post by Ziegander » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:58 pm

blackbewhite2k7 wrote:Side note...what's so bad about taking a sniper who was giving your best team mates a hard time out along with you?

Getting two people out of bounds before taking a dive is a WAY better showing than half the other contestants who've lost got.
Because the sniper was pretty much a complete joke and Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta having any trouble with him was some absolutely garbage writing. Even Piccolo having trouble with him strained my disbelief.
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Post by Ranmaru Rei » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:09 am

I believe, it is the last time for Roshi. After ToP, he will be almost useless as a fighter. So, because of this he is forced af.

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Post by BWri » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:26 am

It's because he's used to fighting as a pedestrian aka landlubber aka that old guy that can't fly :lol: Now everyone else who was spamming flying for all these years is brought back to his level. What if this whole tournament was created to make Roshi look cool?
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Post by blackbewhite2k7 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:04 am

Animelover5487 wrote:In terms of power, he did nothing that would indicate he's stronger than Kuririn. He may be stronger than Ten though, going by how their fight in the recruitment episode turned out. Anyway, Roshi has better techniques than both of them and the characters he fought were pretty weak (especially Caway) and even against the somewhat stronger ones like Ganos he used skill, technique and his own life force to win.
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Hard to argue his victories aren't at least in some part due to deceptive reserves of power.

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Post by ssbgoku » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:33 am

Yes he already got too much
Now finger crossed for Roshi to be kicked out by Frost or even killef o dont care but just eliminate him. I prefer show to focus only on heavy hitters so tension will raise up. Old man is holding bavk guys lile jiren etc. Weaker characters should leave especially when tien is out. If Roshi isnt eliminatef then i hope he will be hardly torturred and. Pummrled by Frost and Goku either dont give fuck or being too busy until too late

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Post by ShinTenshin » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:55 am

In term of power, Ganos is portrayed as a powerful opponent that can be a problem even for Goku so it's actually the strongest guy of U4 seen ! Add the fact Krilin was unable to fight against a weaker ennemy and need trick to win and need to be saved 2 times before.....
Yeah, without hesitation everything imply Roshi is overall far better than Krilin. As for Tenshinhan it's literally a desesperate move against one of the most troublesome fighters seen behind god levels !
Tenshinhan use his body to protect Gohan and Piccolo exhausted..... And with his defeat, Vegeta can ultimately beat Purn, so for Tenshinhan it's a win and an assist !
It's clearly a major win, even for Beerus.

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Post by MainJPW » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:45 am

ShinTenshin wrote:In term of power, Ganos is portrayed as a powerful opponent that can be a problem even for Goku so it's actually the strongest guy of U4 seen !
There's little to no evidence that Ganos was that much stronger than Roshi and based on feats Majora and Shosa are more impressive due to knocking around and blocking C18. Ganos definitely had power, speed, and youth but not much experience, Roshi easily analyzed his combat style to evade before the attacks could land. That's what the episode was about, technique over power.
Add the fact Krilin was unable to fight against a weaker ennemy and need trick to win

Kuririn was literally fighting Majora blow for blow, keep in mind this guy knocked an on guard 18 to the ground...

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And if Roshi is superior why couldn't he perceive Kuririn during this scene, in a battle royale no less?

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and need to be saved 2 times before.....
Don't see how that matters since he saved C18 as well.

-Caulifla had to be saved by Hit and Kale
-Goku had to be saved from Tupper by 18
-Kakunsa had to be saved by Vikal
-Hit had to be saved by Goku
-Dyspo was saved by Kunchi
-Gohan and Piccolo had to be saved by Tenshinhan

How is that an indicator of strength at all?

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Post by apex_pretador » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:11 am

MainJPW wrote:
ShinTenshin wrote:In term of power, Ganos is portrayed as a powerful opponent that can be a problem even for Goku so it's actually the strongest guy of U4 seen !
There's little to no evidence that Ganos was that much stronger than Roshi and based on feats Majora and Shosa are more impressive due to knocking around and blocking C18. Ganos definitely had power, speed, and youth but not much experience, Roshi easily analyzed his combat style to evade before the attacks could land. That's what the episode was about, technique over power.
Add the fact Krilin was unable to fight against a weaker ennemy and need trick to win

Kuririn was literally fighting Majora blow for blow, keep in mind this guy knocked an on guard 18 to the ground...

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And if Roshi is superior why couldn't he perceive Kuririn during this scene, in a battle royale no less?

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and need to be saved 2 times before.....
Don't see how that matters since he saved C18 as well.

-Caulifla had to be saved by Hit and Kale
-Goku had to be saved from Tupper by 18
-Kakunsa had to be saved by Vikal
-Hit had to be saved by Goku
-Dyspo was saved by Kunchi
-Gohan and Piccolo had to be saved by Tenshinhan

How is that an indicator of strength at all?
Excellent post, I'd say. This shows how the strongest earthling is still Krillin. Also, given that Goku is a poor measuring stick (goes from matching buu to going SSB on Krillin and getting pushed back), him exchanging only a few blows with Ganos shouldn't be taken as anything.
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Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:15 am

Of course the sensei would outperform his students.

I'm glad DBS is giving Master Roshi some good cred for the Tournament.
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Post by Saturnine » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:41 am

They're giving Roshi lots of spotlight, so that they don't have to do it later, after the tournament. Then they can focus on Krillin and Tien. Hopefully, lol

I understand that enemies have to be getting progressively stronger for there to be a good story (the ToP is a nice subversion of that), but I really miss prolonged, even fights with Tien. Guess they're no longer coming back, lol

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:23 am

I'd probably like Tien Town if it weren't for his annoyingly rabid fan base that gets off on measuring Tien Turn against Krillin.

All I can say is I'm so glad he is finally gone.
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