(Spoiler) Episode 115 Caulifla and Kale

[Kanious]

I f*cking knew it! I knew that it wasn't Kale on the opening. I thought that it was a third saiyan girl from universe 11 and i even asked here in the forum about where was the "pride trooper" saiyan when all members showed up. I was sure that it wasn't Kale.

Now everything makes sense.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Being Potara based really throws me for a loop. I was really expecting it to be a dance fusion, if not a different variant based on the spoiler about [spoiler]Champa teaching them a new technique[/spoiler]

This honestly baffles me. How is this allowed? Is it the kinda of thing where Zeno thinks it'll be cool and allow it? And if that's the case, could we see Vegito again?

I'm honestly super hyped for this, but disappointed at the same time

That Champa technique was a mis-translation from the Korean TL, the actual preview said Champa's secret plan. Also they said no weapons were allowed and they allowed the Mafuba jar so I can see why this isn't a problem.

Vegetto is too powerful for fusion

If Vegetto paces himself properly he will be fine, in the Trunks arc the power he exhausted doing the Final Kamehameha is what expended him, he could slowly build up through forms until SSGSS and when the moment is right to then exert the power needed to win or he can start straight in SSGSS like he did in the Trunks arc and be wary about not over exerting himself.

I think a Vegetto fusion is very possible. Vegetto having to pull himself would make it more of a fight too.

[HeroR]

Being Potara based really throws me for a loop. I was really expecting it to be a dance fusion, if not a different variant based on the spoiler about [spoiler]Champa teaching them a new technique[/spoiler]

This honestly baffles me. How is this allowed? Is it the kinda of thing where Zeno thinks it'll be cool and allow it? And if that's the case, could we see Vegito again?

I'm honestly super hyped for this, but disappointed at the same time

That Champa technique was a mis-translation from the Korean TL, the actual preview said Champa's secret plan. Also they said no weapons were allowed and they allowed the Mafuba jar so I can see why this isn't a problem.

Vegetto is too powerful for fusion

If Vegetto paces himself properly he will be fine, in the Trunks arc the power he exhausted doing the Final Kamehameha is what expended him, he could slowly build up through forms until SSGSS and when the moment is right to then exert the power needed to win or he can start straight in SSGSS like he did in the Trunks arc and be wary about not over exerting himself.

I think a Vegetto fusion is very possible. Vegetto having to pull himself would make it more of a fight too.

I can’t see Goku fusing to fight an unfused character. Especially one who burnt him personally.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Being Potara based really throws me for a loop. I was really expecting it to be a dance fusion, if not a different variant based on the spoiler about [spoiler]Champa teaching them a new technique[/spoiler]

This honestly baffles me. How is this allowed? Is it the kinda of thing where Zeno thinks it'll be cool and allow it? And if that's the case, could we see Vegito again?

I'm honestly super hyped for this, but disappointed at the same time

That Champa technique was a mis-translation from the Korean TL, the actual preview said Champa's secret plan. Also they said no weapons were allowed and they allowed the Mafuba jar so I can see why this isn't a problem.

Vegetto is too powerful for fusion

If Vegetto paces himself properly he will be fine, in the Trunks arc the power he exhausted doing the Final Kamehameha is what expended him, he could slowly build up through forms until SSGSS and when the moment is right to then exert the power needed to win or he can start straight in SSGSS like he did in the Trunks arc and be wary about not over exerting himself.

I think a Vegetto fusion is very possible. Vegetto having to pull himself would make it more of a fight too.

I can’t see Goku fusing to fight an unfused character. Especially one who burnt him personally.

I was moreso talking about vs Kafla not Jiren as that was what I assumed people were on about.

[OLKv3]

That Champa technique was a mis-translation from the Korean TL, the actual preview said Champa's secret plan. Also they said no weapons were allowed and they allowed the Mafuba jar so I can see why this isn't a problem.


If Vegetto paces himself properly he will be fine, in the Trunks arc the power he exhausted doing the Final Kamehameha is what expended him, he could slowly build up through forms until SSGSS and when the moment is right to then exert the power needed to win or he can start straight in SSGSS like he did in the Trunks arc and be wary about not over exerting himself.

I think a Vegetto fusion is very possible. Vegetto having to pull himself would make it more of a fight too.

I can’t see Goku fusing to fight an unfused character. Especially one who burnt him personally.

I was moreso talking about vs Kafla not Jiren as that was what I assumed people were on about.

Goku shouldn't need fusion to beat Kafla. He can just use SSB.
Vegetto vs Kafla would be a curbstomp atm so that wouldn't be right anyway

[Kataphrut]

I just realised my disappointment with it not being a fusion dance. We're not going to get to see a screwed up fat/old version. Because then you could call it 'Caulifale'.

[Cabba]

So lets deduct the time for him to activate it again. Lets say it takes ten minutes for him to get it back. That means he has only ten minutes left to go from being only able to barely move Jiren, to being able to actually beat him. That's why I think the Goku alone theory is bunk.

DBS ToP fights have been happening in 1 minute or less, i dont see the problem with a "10 minute" final bout between Goku and Jiren.
Besides UI Goku was already on par with Jiren, and following spoilers Goku is gonna power up/control the UI making him even stronger

UI Goku barely moved Jiren when he started to get serious. Jiren blocked him with one hand repeatedly, and blew him away like a bug.

UI and Jiren were shown on par the whole time, wether or not Jiren was hidding some power doesnt matter since Gou is expected to power up UI as well as per spoilers
Towards the end UI Goku got the upper hand and even landed a heavy hit on jiren.
You are being disingenuous with him blowing away Goku, well duh since his energy/ui ran out, he was in base form at that point

I think a Vegetto fusion is very possible. Vegetto having to pull himself would make it more of a fight too.

Vegetto is not gonna happen, as cool as it would be its not gonna happen. 0% chance of it happening
Ultra instinct Goku is the big thing in the ToP, Goku is even gonna power up that form, that much has been confirmed. When incomplete UI was already on par with Jiren there is no need for fusion, fans are deluding themselves if they think its coming

Black arc did a pretty awful job at nerfing Vegeto Blue anyways, cant even launch a Kamehameha and expect to defeat someone of Jirens Caliber? Merge Zamasu wasn't even that strong even, Goku landed hits on him and beat him with a kamehameha, trunks and Vegeta father son Gyallic-Ho also bested him. Black arc trunks, Vegeta and Goku would not be able to laid a finger on Jiren. Vegeto would need to go all out like he did on the black arc to beat jiren, and that cant happen because plot reasons nerfed Vegeto

Goku shouldn't need fusion to beat Kafla. He can just use SSB.
Vegetto vs Kafla would be a curbstomp atm so that wouldn't be right anyway

Yep Goku SSB at best should be able to beat Kefura. Besides Vegeta is busy fighting Toppo
They should make things more interesting and put SSG against Kefura, that would right all the wrongs done

I just realised my disappointment with it not being a fusion dance. We're not going to get to see a screwed up fat/old version. Because then you could call it 'Caulifale'.

The time available wouldn't allow for that, with 22 minutes to go, having to wait 30 minutes to unfuse and redoit is a deal breaker and was never happening anyways

[Arugela]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQkufGZrLc0

Just going to comment on this. He and others emphasize the potara earings are outside of the rules... this is not the case. maybe if they are thrown in the ring but that is still questionable depending on how hard of a rule that is. And they can always have them on their person. This is all assuming this actually happens.

The rules were 2:

1. No WEAPONS that are not a technique.
2. No HEALING items!

The potara are neither a weapon that is not a technique nor a healing item... They are not outside the rules.

There is nothing wrong with them so far in the rules with fusing with potara earings.

Potara are within the rules and roshi's bottles were within the rules along with his glasses etc.

Either way it would be interesting if there was a fusion. We are at the point the fusion should last longer than the match. I wonder if it will be potara or dance... I would assume it would take to long to teach fusion dance so earings are probably the simpler way to go. Not to mention they have beings to give them it before the tournament and it does not have certain limits in fusing.

Maybe if the earings are ok but can't be thrown in we'll get caulifa and kale fusion with earings vs gogetta!