Unpopular DB opinions

[Thanos]

Ssj Gotenks Pre > Ssj3 Goku

I know I'm late on this, and its all opinions, but you're having a laugh, mate.


I still hold to:

King Cold's potential > Freeza's (not in the form we saw him, but in later transformations)
Base Saiyans > Earlier arc Super Saiyans (e.g. Buu arc Base Goku > Freeza arc Super Saiyan Goku)
Tenshinhan > Kuririn > Yamcha > Chaozu > Videl > Mr. Satan > the rest of humanity
Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks
SSJ3 Goku = SSJ3 Gotenks *FLAMESHIELD*
#18 > SSJ Trunks > SSJ Goten
Super Vegetto > Base Vegetto > SSJ Gogeta > Dragon Ball

[Ketchup_Revenge]

King Cold's potential > Freeza's (not in the form we saw him, but in later transformations)

Meh. I was always under the impression that Freeza's fourth form was his natural state, and that any previous forms were suppressions. If King Cold is seen in a "Freeza second form" state, than I assume that's either his natural form, or the highest transformation that he can go.

SSJ3 Goku = SSJ3 Gotenks *FLAMESHIELD*

To a certain extent, I disagree, but I actually wouldn't be so apt to discount that theory entirely.
I've also always been under the belief that simply because of the differing properties of dead vs alive, and Earth vs Other World, I've always believed that dead SSj3 Goku is stronger than Alive SSj3 Goku. But SSj3 Goku in the series had only been seen dead on Earth, or alive in Otherworld, and never seen in SSj3 dead in Other World. If he was dead in Other World, I'd be willing to believe that he'd be as strong as SSj3 Gotenks.

I'm also not so willing to believe that Kid Boo was really that much weaker than Super Boo. I believe Goku's statement "Yea, we can take 'I'm!" was more based on his perception of the possible size advantage that him and Vegeta would have, because his response was to Vegeta's comment about Boo's new size, not the ki they sensed from him.

#18 > SSJ Trunks > SSJ Goten

I agree. I've never seen the reason to put Goten and Trunks so much higher than their dads during the Android arc, at least not until after they go into the ROSAT. And there's nothing as far as I know that states that 18 can't train and get stronger. She obviously did some type of training since she knew the Kienzan, even if it was minimal. For all we know, she could've been stronger than she was in the Cell Arc. There's also the fact that even though she's careless, it's extremely unlikely that she'd go all out in her fight with Mighty Mask because of Marron being there. Any crazy destructiveness would've put Marron at risk, and the possible mortality from losing didn't exist until she saw how serious Trunks was with that ki blast that could've caused serious damage.

[sonikku956]

I think Lunch/Launch is sexier than Bulma.

[Ketchup_Revenge]

I think Lunch/Launch is sexier than Bulma.

If you like that spontaneous, psychotic type, I guess.

[Mjb1985]

King Cold not being able to transform is what I would say unpopular. Most people like to think King Cold could transform.

[sonikku956]

I think Lunch/Launch is sexier than Bulma.

If you like that spontaneous, psychotic type, I guess.

I like the sweet, kind blue haired Lunch better.

[Bussani]

SSJ3 Goku = SSJ3 Gotenks *FLAMESHIELD*

Not flaming, but I'd be curious to hear how that could work. Goku didn't expect the boys to pull off Super Saiyan 3, so how was Gotenks ever supposed to handle Buu? He'd have less of a chance than Vegeta did. Was Goku just way off in his estimation of how strong they'd become with fusion?

[Mjb1985]

Goku was lying duh. Lol. Apparently that's an acceptable thought process to some posters.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I like the American Soundtrack for some of the earlier DBZ movies.
The Daizenshuus arent always right.
I despise Broly
Vegeta is the best, deal with it .
SSJ3 does not look silly at all its quite intimating and badass.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

I hate most in-universe discussions.

I see another three pages added to the Battle of Gods thread and I think that there might be some big news.

Nope, just three pages talking about Gohan's hair, Birusu's power level and canon.

[MCDaveG]

Well, I have one! Since I saw DBGT years before, I always thought that Gohan discarding the Ultimate state and being able to go Super Saiyan is lot cooler, so I'm excited for him to be Super Saiyan in the new movie.

[Zephyr]

- The old FUNimation dub is an unintentional, officially licensed parody, and is most enjoyable when viewing it as such.
- Gotenks as a character is an in-universe and out-of-universe parody of Vegeta.
- The plagiarized music made the Budokai games far better than they would have been without it.
- The events in the DBO backstory timeline, up until the year 821, are more plausible than the critics give them credit for.
- Dragon Ball (unintentional or not) stayed a gag manga all the way through the Buu arc. The extent to which the characters got absurdly powerful in itself was a gag.
- I don't think Gohan's Ultimate state will even be acknowledged in the new movie.

[Bussani]

I don't think Gohan's Ultimate state will even be acknowledged in the new movie.

I don't think that's a very unpopular opinion. There are people who would like it to be acknowledged, but I'm not sure there are many people who expect it to be.

[Zephyr]

I don't think Gohan's Ultimate state will even be acknowledged in the new movie.

I don't think that's a very unpopular opinion. There are people who would like it to be acknowledged, but I'm not sure there are many people who expect it to be.

True. Kinda threw that one in there without considering its popularity.

[Saiga]

Reposting from the other thread:

*The Shadow Dragons concept was not a good idea and made a bunch of characters into neglectful assholes.
*Piccolo is an idiot, and he isn't as strong as most people rate him. Fanon Piccolo is completely different from Canon Piccolo. I don't dislike him, but I'm bitter about having high expectations of him only for those to be crushed >.>
*The Earthlings shouldn't have been given more focus than they already got, since that would either take away focus from more interesting characters or drag down the pace too much.

I have more that would be considered unpopular, but these three I'm 99% sure no-one here would agree with.

Oh, wait, here's another one: Character statements about power are not the be-all and end-all.

[DBZAOTA482]

- Chibi Trunks > Mirai Trunks
- Dragon Ball GT is flanderization
- I agree with Zephyr on the FUNi Z dub being an unintentional parody, at least until the Majin Boo Saga
- Kaioshin is the worst Dragon Ball character...EVER!!!

[Ringworm128]

I really don't think the Funi Z dub is THAT bad except for maybe season 3 and some of 4. The acting wasn't the best but it seemed solid enough, you could tell they at least rehearsed their lines and the BGM had a few good moments most of the voices fitted the characters IMO and the scripts while being a bit corny at times were nothing unbearable.

[Ketchup_Revenge]

I really don't think the Funi Z dub is THAT bad except for maybe season 3 and some of 4. The acting wasn't the best but it seemed solid enough, you could tell they at least rehearsed their lines and the BGM had a few good moments most of the voices fitted the characters IMO and the scripts while being a bit corny at times were nothing unbearable.

They got really carried away in some parts with the off-screen lines during seasons 4, 5, and 6. In the Orange Brick re-dub of season 4, they had Gohan's voice come from off-screen in the SSj Goku vs 19 fight when he hadn't even arrived there yet.

[Zephyr]

I really don't think the Funi Z dub is THAT bad except for maybe season 3 and some of 4. The acting wasn't the best but it seemed solid enough, you could tell they at least rehearsed their lines and the BGM had a few good moments most of the voices fitted the characters IMO and the scripts while being a bit corny at times were nothing unbearable.

I consider it such a parody, not necessarily for quality reasons. Let me attempt to elaborate:

I tend to view the entire series as a big gag (even past the points where it was no longer explicitly considered a gag manga). The thing is not meant to be taken so seriously. Despite the fact that yes, even the Japanese version was serious at many parts, the amount of additional hard-core seriousness that was added in FUNimation's dub only amplified the sillyness of what I already see as a gag. The series is already funny because it is rife with silly-ness, and it's made even funnier by how serious certain silly parts try to be. The hard rock/techno score, the monster truck rally announcer, Jesus Goku, etc.

If that makes any sense. If not, I could try wording more coherently.

[Cipher]

The Shadow Dragons concept was not a good idea and made a bunch of characters into neglectful assholes.

Well, this is interesting, because I'd actually hold that the characters are neglectful assholes/not very good people for most of the series.

Like, at any point you can count the number of truly decent human beings in the main cast on one hand.

And I always thought the cheery irreverence of its cast was something that gave Dragon Ball a lot of its charm and something to hold over other shonen series.