Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goku with a new powerup and a new outfit to go with it is one of the possibilities I think that mystery 8th figure may be.

Nah, I don't see a new outfit. The final battle seems to be the one above Earth, and Goku still has the same outfit.
I do place my bets, however, on a new power-up/form.

[Chuquita]

Goku with a new powerup and a new outfit to go with it is one of the possibilities I think that mystery 8th figure may be.

Nah, I don't see a new outfit. The final battle seems to be the one above Earth, and Goku still has the same outfit.
I do place my bets, however, on a new power-up/form.

The outfit is mostly a wishful thinking on my part, I do admit. *Wanted to see a godly version of the Kame gi.*

A new power-up/form on its own though would still be nice. I want it to be something unique though; it doesn't even necessarily have to tie in to the ssj forms.

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

Goku does wear blue gi at end of Dragon Ball Z series instead of orange and blue colored gi.

[Chuquita]

Goku does wear blue gi at end of Dragon Ball Z series instead of orange and blue colored gi.

Going back to look at screenshots of that end-of-Z gi, I actually like it a lot more than I remember liking it (the light blueish-green top and dark blueish-green pants with the white gi sash and the yellow wristbands) even though there's no actual explanation for why he switched to it from the orange, and so late in the series too.

I feel like there's got to be an interesting in-universe reason for it (I'd so watch a theoretical filler episode that leads to this); but the out of universe reason that I come up with is Toriyama changed his gi to denote that a good chunk of time had passed since Goku doesn't physically look any older due to being saiyajin.


Also, I could've sworn one of the old videogame covers gave Goku a white gi.

EDIT:

Actually, this looks more like the soundtrack to one of the videogames.

[That_Saiya-Jin_Guy]

Goku does wear blue gi at end of Dragon Ball Z series instead of orange and blue colored gi.

Going back to look at screenshots of that end-of-Z gi, I actually like it a lot more than I remember liking it (the light blueish-green top and dark blueish-green pants with the white gi sash and the yellow wristbands) even though there's no actual explanation for why he switched to it from the orange, and so late in the series too.

I feel like there's got to be an interesting in-universe reason for it (I'd so watch a theoretical filler episode that leads to this); but the out of universe reason that I come up with is Toriyama changed his gi to denote that a good chunk of time had passed since Goku doesn't physically look any older due to being saiyajin.


Also, I could've sworn one of the old videogame covers gave Goku a white gi.

EDIT:

Actually, this looks more like the soundtrack to one of the videogames.

I wouldn't mind seeing Goku in his gi that he wore in Dragonball...would be pretty cool to seem him in it.

[dario03]

Possibly, not directly knowing it, but maybe he just lets Freeza do the dirty work aware of the fact that he is going to destroy a planet. Perhaps he rather enjoyed letting Freeza do his work for him and now he is just upset that his best "agent" has been destroyed by Goku so now he has to actually do something. I mean cats are lazy lol.

Also, he awakens after 39 years. So isn't that about how long ago it was that planet vegeta was destroyed at this point in the series? Meaning maybe he saw Freeza's handywork and just let him continue on doing his job?

Makes too much sense, actually. It also puts Freeza and Buu into much clearer, more meaningful pigeonholes in the grand scheme of the universe that Battle of Gods is laying out.

I actually came into this thread to see if Buu being connected to Birusu had been mentioned or hinted at. Wasn't it said that Bibidi accidently created Buu? Maybe he didn't actually create him at all and Buu had just been sent there to do the dirty work.

[JeffJarrett]

What is the source for Bibidi accidentally creating Buu?

[Marco Polo]

Goku does wear blue gi at end of Dragon Ball Z series instead of orange and blue colored gi.

Going back to look at screenshots of that end-of-Z gi, I actually like it a lot more than I remember liking it (the light blueish-green top and dark blueish-green pants with the white gi sash and the yellow wristbands) even though there's no actual explanation for why he switched to it from the orange, and so late in the series too.

I feel like there's got to be an interesting in-universe reason for it (I'd so watch a theoretical filler episode that leads to this); but the out of universe reason that I come up with is Toriyama changed his gi to denote that a good chunk of time had passed since Goku doesn't physically look any older due to being saiyajin.

I always thought the gi change was to indicate that Goku was his own master now and has no more reason to wear the gi of Kame Sennin's school. He literally becomes Uub's master also.

[CaBrPi]

What is the source for Bibidi accidentally creating Buu?

I don't have the book on me, but it's in volume 42, when Kaioshin is explaining the origin of Boo.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

What is the source for Bibidi accidentally creating Buu?

The manga.

Perhaps Birusu gave Bibidi the task to create a strong monster to do the job, and Bibidi accidentally created Majin Boo, with his infinite stamina, ridiculous regeneration, and huge power?

[Chuquita]

Goku does wear blue gi at end of Dragon Ball Z series instead of orange and blue colored gi.

Going back to look at screenshots of that end-of-Z gi, I actually like it a lot more than I remember liking it (the light blueish-green top and dark blueish-green pants with the white gi sash and the yellow wristbands) even though there's no actual explanation for why he switched to it from the orange, and so late in the series too.

I feel like there's got to be an interesting in-universe reason for it (I'd so watch a theoretical filler episode that leads to this); but the out of universe reason that I come up with is Toriyama changed his gi to denote that a good chunk of time had passed since Goku doesn't physically look any older due to being saiyajin.

I always thought the gi change was to indicate that Goku was his own master now and has no more reason to wear the gi of Kame Sennin's school. He literally becomes Uub's master also.

In-universe, would that mean that he considered himself a Kame school student all the way up until the end of the Buu arc then? Even after he stops using the kanji, he still keeps the colors.

[dario03]

What is the source for Bibidi accidentally creating Buu?

Not sure if he was, thats why I had a question mark at the end. But I thought it was mentioned some where that he was accidently created. But even if he wasn't its still possible that he was connected to Birusu. But that is just a random theory.

[JeffJarrett]

Ok! Thanks for the source!!

[dario03]

What is the source for Bibidi accidentally creating Buu?

I don't have the book on me, but it's in volume 42, when Kaioshin is explaining the origin of Boo.

I think in the manga that volume just mentions Bibidi. But a little google search brought up this

Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P13.3-5
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Kaioshin: “Long ago, about when humanity on Earth had just begun to walk on 2 legs…In the depths of space, there was an extremely evil wizard called “Bibidi”…One day, by chance Bibidi happened to create a terrible monster…An extraordinarily terrifying majin called “Boo”…Majin Boo had neither reason nor emotions, and devoted himself to nothing but destruction and slaughter…A monster born only to inspire fear in living things…In just a few years, hundreds of planets were transformed into dead worlds…”

I think thats where I was getting the accidently part from.

[JeffJarrett]

"by chance" which might also mean that he had luck to be able to create the monster, not that it was an accident. Because it might be something really hard to create a living being, not every mage can do this. Babidi spent his life trying to revive the monster his father created instead of creating a new one.

[Marco Polo]

In-universe, would that mean that he considered himself a Kame school student all the way up until the end of the Buu arc then? Even after he stops using the kanji, he still keeps the colors.

Well maybe he never took the time to ponder the question during the series, but did during the ten years of peace between the Buu arc and the end of the series.

He could have changed his clothes at the same time as Vegeta changing his to Earth clothes, too. Maybe Toriyama decided that everyone would have new clothes in that epilogue (except Piccolo).

[dario03]

"by chance" which might also mean that he had luck to be able to create the monster, not that it was an accident. Because it might be something really hard to create a living being, not every mage can do this. Babidi spent his life trying to revive the monster his father created instead of creating a new one.

Perhaps but by chance is one of the definitions of accidental. Either way it doesn't really matter for this random theory (plus that might not even be a direct translation). There isn't much details about Buu's creation and even if there was they could easily work Birusu into it if they wanted to.

[Herms]

What is the source for Bibidi accidentally creating Buu?

I don't have the book on me, but it's in volume 42, when Kaioshin is explaining the origin of Boo.

It's actually during the initial explanation of Boo, at the end of volume 37/Z 21.

"by chance" which might also mean that he had luck to be able to create the monster, not that it was an accident. Because it might be something really hard to create a living being, not every mage can do this. Babidi spent his life trying to revive the monster his father created instead of creating a new one.

Yeah, it's vague, but I think the implication is that Boo's creation was more the result of happy circumstance ("happy" from Bibidi's perspective), and therefore an event that couldn't be repeated. Sort of like the stupid cliche where lightning strikes machinery or whatever at just the right moment and produces miraculous results. In contrast to Cell, who Gero's computer could presumably make more of, if given enough time and resources. Bibidi is described as an "evil wizard", so we know he wasn't some innocent guy who happened to create a super monster while trying to cook a souffle. He was probably messing around with black magic when all the right chips fell into place for him to make Boo.

[UpFromTheSkies]

I don't think it's wishful thinking that Goku is going to get a power upgrade from Old Kai and wear Kai clothes, it makes perfect sense. The movie title is God vs God/Battle of Gods, not Goku vs God/Battle against God. Bills leaves and returns which gives Old Kai time to do his thing, and we don't know that the scene of Goku and Bills fighting above the Earth is the second battle, just because they met on North Kai's planet doesn't mean their first fight took place there. Also, Old Kai's power upgrade isn't permanent, as we see with Gohan reverting back to normal, so that explains why Goku is normal again in GT.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Or it explains why Goku is so ridiculously overpowered in GT, and particularly in his base form. >_>;


~Da Lemmy