Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[FindKenshi]

So that's it? Freeza becomes Super Saiyan God-level just by training a little bit? Jesus, fuck this movie.

Not necessarily. One of the updates we got was that "Freeza trains for the first time in his life." There may be more to his strength then just that he trained. That being said.. I ask again.. WHY is this such a stretch to you people? It's a children's story! Men flying around shooting out fireballs and moving faster than bullets is perfectly acceptable, but the most powerful being in the universe reclaiming his title through sheer will isn't? I suggest you to show Freeza-sama a little more respect than that. I mean, I'm honored that you've heard his name and all, backwater that you are, but you don't seem aware of the fact that he is--I repeat--the most powerful being in the universe. Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan God makes no difference.. he is Freeza and he'll destroy them all.

Even implying that Enma Daio could strip Freeza of his body is sheer folly. Little do you know he answers to Freeza's family as he has for centuries. He fears him, just as Kaio feared him. They could never reduce the vicious tyrant to a mere puffy cloud-soul. Never.

[dbzfan7]

I'm probably gonna hate the reason for Freeza's growth aren't I...

We probably all will.

I have no idea what the hell will make him on par with the BOG Gods. I don't buy any amount of training can make him that powerful. Not even Goku could reach God level power ever without that power up. I swear it better not be something dumb like 5th form Freeza that makes him suddenly multiply his power by billions.

[Herms]

Turns out Tagoma and Sorbet stole the old Grand Kaioshin's secret stash of Rare Candies, and feed them all to Freeza after bringing him back to life.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

So that's it? Freeza becomes Super Saiyan God-level just by training a little bit? Jesus, fuck this movie.

C'mon, man. Where's the faith? We still know very little about the film. It seems like people are a bit more weary of this movie than last time. I understand the fact that Freeza's return would've gotten some alarm bells ringing and it does have the potential to go horribly wrong, but it is Toriyama who's writing this film. Let's just wait and see. While the man can be a bit erratic, he does have his magic touch.

I've seen some worry expressed about whether or not the movie will be enjoyable if 'certain things' do or don't happen based on some ambiguous comments from JUMP Festa. Some people even seem to be giving up on it! Instead of throwing up hands and worrying about what will/won't happen, just keep in mind that ambiguous comments are exactly that for a specific reason and instead, enjoy the mystery and how they could make it interesting/exciting and reach the core of the enjoyment of Dragon Ball under 'certain' conditions. From what I've heard, there's plenty to be excited about in the film Right now, the theorizing and speculation is honestly the best part of the experience because once you know, the magic is gone. Relish in this time up until April ^_^

Agree 100%. At the very least it'll be a fun watch, because it's Dragon Ball and also because it's an actual movie. I can barely put into words how cool it is to have DBZ on the big screen

Turns out Tagoma and Sorbet stole the old Dai-Kaioshin's secret stash of Rare Candies, and feed them all to Freeza after bringing him back to life.

I heard the three of them sneak into the Room of Spirit and Time while Dende and Popo are asleep.

Curious to see how much of a role Tagoma and Sorbet, actually. Will they simply revive Freeza and then fade into the background? How much a threat will they actually pose to our heroes and will they actually play a role in Freeza's plan for revenge? Does Freeza even have an actual plan that doesn't simply consist of beating people up?

[Saiga]

Given that any serious part of BoG was shit, and Minus was a complete failure of a story, I simply have no faith in Toriyama outside of humour and character interactions. And any detail of this movie released so far has been leaning more toward the side of "this is going to be shit" because it's like hitting a check list off terrible fan fiction ideas.

[Herms]

Given that any serious part of BoG was shit, and Minus was a complete failure of a story, I simply have no faith in Toriyama outside of humour and character interactions.

Not to beat a dead horse, but it's again interesting to note how people constantly talk of DB Minus without any reference to Jaco, as if it were a standalone story. Or on the flipside, it's interesting how often people don't even think to mention Jaco when listing off stuff Toriyama has made recently. I don't mean to single you out, but I see this a lot, and it just strikes me as bizarre the degree to which Jaco might as well not exist. All these people commenting on the current state of Toriyama's abilities as an artist and story-teller, without mentioning the only manga Toriyama has drawn in the last four years.

[EmmaWinters]

any detail of this movie released so far has been leaning more toward the side of "this is going to be shit" because it's like hitting a check list off terrible fan fiction ideas.

We don't know anything about how Freeza's resurrection will be handled, so what is it that you don't like?
That Gohan pursued his career as he was supposed to? That Kuririn got a job?

It's true, this movie could very well be terrible, but I think you're jumping the gun.

[Saiga]

Not to beat a dead horse, but it's again interesting to note how people constantly talk of DB Minus without any reference to Jaco, as if it were a standalone story. Or on the flipside, it's interesting how often people don't even think to mention Jaco when listing off stuff Toriyama has made recently.

I know it was made as a bonus for Jaco, but it still is a standalone story in my eyes. At least the same way any other special is. And considering it part of Jaco doesn't do anything to improve it.

Jaco was just sort of there - neither bad nor good, so I didn't mention it.

We don't know anything about how Freeza's resurrection will be handled, so what is it that you don't like?
That Gohan pursued his career as he was supposed to? That Kuririn got a job?

Freeza coming back, Freeza talking about a further evolution, Piccolo's hyping up Freeza, Goku not going Super Saiyan, Gohan going Super Saiyan, Great Saiyaman apparently being written out, making a big deal about Freeza training... I don't care about Kuririn's job, that's completely irrelevant. But I guess I should have said "nearly" any detail, since that one just doesn't matter for me either way.

[RandomGuy96]

Freeza coming back, Freeza talking about a further evolution, Piccolo's hyping up Freeza, Goku not going Super Saiyan, Gohan going Super Saiyan, Great Saiyaman apparently being written out, making a big deal about Freeza training... I don't care about Kuririn's job, that's completely irrelevant. But I guess I should have said "nearly" any detail, since that one just doesn't matter for me either way.

I feel the same way. Don't forget Gohan and the others being demoted to fighting Raditz-tier henchmen, Vegeta apparently being a main character again, and Freeza being treated as a credible threat to the post-Buu cast.

[Saiga]

Freeza coming back, Freeza talking about a further evolution, Piccolo's hyping up Freeza, Goku not going Super Saiyan, Gohan going Super Saiyan, Great Saiyaman apparently being written out, making a big deal about Freeza training... I don't care about Kuririn's job, that's completely irrelevant. But I guess I should have said "nearly" any detail, since that one just doesn't matter for me either way.

I feel the same way. Don't forget Gohan and the others being demoted to fighting Raditz-tier henchmen, Vegeta apparently being a main character again, and Freeza being treated as a credible threat to the post-Buu cast.

Yeah... "OMG DIFFERENT DIMENSION" shut up Piccolo, get some new lines.

edit: Actually, that just gave me the impression of Freeza just ending up as strong as pre-potara Kaioshin was. That'd be hilarious.

[RandomGuy96]

Freeza coming back, Freeza talking about a further evolution, Piccolo's hyping up Freeza, Goku not going Super Saiyan, Gohan going Super Saiyan, Great Saiyaman apparently being written out, making a big deal about Freeza training... I don't care about Kuririn's job, that's completely irrelevant. But I guess I should have said "nearly" any detail, since that one just doesn't matter for me either way.

I feel the same way. Don't forget Gohan and the others being demoted to fighting Raditz-tier henchmen, Vegeta apparently being a main character again, and Freeza being treated as a credible threat to the post-Buu cast.

Yeah... "OMG DIFFERENT DIMENSION" shut up Piccolo, get some new lines.

edit: Actually, that just gave me the impression of Freeza just ending up as strong as pre-potara Kaioshin was. That'd be hilarious.

Freeza would think that he's hot shit until he gets finger-flicked by Kibitoshin.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Freeza coming back, Freeza talking about a further evolution, Piccolo's hyping up Freeza, Goku not going Super Saiyan, Gohan going Super Saiyan, Great Saiyaman apparently being written out, making a big deal about Freeza training... I don't care about Kuririn's job, that's completely irrelevant. But I guess I should have said "nearly" any detail, since that one just doesn't matter for me either way.

I feel the same way. Don't forget Gohan and the others being demoted to fighting Raditz-tier henchmen, Vegeta apparently being a main character again, and Freeza being treated as a credible threat to the post-Buu cast.

Yeah... "OMG DIFFERENT DIMENSION" shut up Piccolo, get some new lines.

edit: Actually, that just gave me the impression of Freeza just ending up as strong as pre-potara Kaioshin was. That'd be hilarious.

This is really minor, but that's just generic trailer dialogue. Chances are it won't even be in the final film, like most of the lines in the BOG trailer.

If this movie ends up being good, I think the tagline for my review (if I ever get around to writing one) would be Revival of F- the F standing for faith.

[EmmaWinters]

Piccolo's hyping up Freeza

Really? You have a problem with that? In a trailer?

Goku not going Super Saiyan

This is pretty much the opposite of fan fiction, isn't it?

Gohan going Super Saiyan

That's true, though we don't know if this will be explained.
They fixed it in the last movie, so surely they know about Gohan's ability.

Great Saiyaman apparently being written out,

He lost his clothes and has to fight in the nerdiest outfit ever. How do you like Saiyaman and dislike that? Rehashing Saiyaman again would be predictable, though admittedly still fun.

[Saiga]

This is really minor, but that's just generic trailer dialogue. Chances are it won't even be in the final film, like most of the lines in the BOG trailer.

If this movie ends up being good, I think the tagline for my review (if I ever get around to writing one) would be Revival of F- the F standing for faith.

Whether the particular line makes it in the final movie or not probably won't change the general tone of how they're hyping up Freeza, though. I know the BoG trailer wasn't entirely accurate to the final product, but it's not like Beers was some weakling with no intention of destroying anything. They got the main things across, which tells me that there will be fawning over Freeza's strength in the movie as well even if it's not worded like that.

I know the movie still has a chance to be good - but right now I've got no faith. I really need something to go off for me to be looking forward to this, since Battle of Gods was such a rude awakening for me.

Really? You have a problem with that? In a trailer?

Yes. It's part of the entire problem with handling Freeza. I get that trailers are for hype, but it's not like the movie will suddenly be devoid of any hype for Freeza.

This is pretty much the opposite of fan fiction, isn't it?

Nope. It's the opposite of some stories, but the idea of taking forms away from Goku isn't new at all and can be found in a lot of fanfiction. I'd say it's the next most popular thing after TRANSFORMATIONS EVERYWHERE.

That's true, though we don't know if this will be explained.
They fixed it in the last movie, so surely they know about Gohan's ability.

After the uproar it caused, I doubt they'd deliberately just use it in the trailer. The movie may give an explanation, but I don't really want that as much as I want Gohan staying Ultimate.

He lost his clothes and has to fight in the nerdiest outfit ever. How do you like Saiyaman and dislike that? Rehashing Saiyaman again would be predictable, though admittedly still fun.

I don't dislike the idea of Gohan being stuck in that outfit because he lost his gi, but it's not worth writing Saiyaman out. I don't find it predictable at all, becoming Saiyaman is part of Gohan's character.

[UltimateHammerBro]

This is really minor, but that's just generic trailer dialogue. Chances are it won't even be in the final film, like most of the lines in the BOG trailer.

IIRC, the line "There's someone I want you to revive" was said by Goku in the trailer, right? This could be another case of generic dialogue, since it's a lot more likely that Tagoma and Sorbet are the ones to make the wish.

Unless they ask Goku to tell the dragon to revive a friend of theirs, and Goku innocently accepts, not knowing it's Freeza. That'd be funny

[EmmaWinters]

IIRC, the line "There's someone I want you to revive" was said by Goku in the trailer, right?

I don't think it was said by anybody, just shown after Shenlong speaks.

[ScholarGohan]

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Hmm. New image, but kind of disappointed there doesn't appear to be anything new to it content wise. :/

[ZazamPow]

This is really minor, but that's just generic trailer dialogue. Chances are it won't even be in the final film, like most of the lines in the BOG trailer.

IIRC, the line "There's someone I want you to revive" was said by Goku in the trailer, right? This could be another case of generic dialogue, since it's a lot more likely that Tagoma and Sorbet are the ones to make the wish.

Unless they ask Goku to tell the dragon to revive a friend of theirs, and Goku innocently accepts, not knowing it's Freeza. That'd be funny

I can't imagine how pissed Vegeta would get, he might as well drop Kakarot and just pretend "Clown" is his actual name.

[ZazamPow]

I love how this image makes me feel. Krillin being a cop, Gohan wearing the new outfit, it gives the sense that these characters are really existing and progressing in a natural way even after the series has (mostly) ended. Nobody is stagnant, when this movie begins, things will have already changed.

On a smaller note I also like how Tori-bot is wearing the same or similar jumpsuit that Gohan is wearing. That tells me he's acknowledging it's silliness, so Gohan wearing it will likely be played up for a lot of laughs in the movie.