DragonBall Z Abridged

[rereboy]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Why? To mock his preference? To say that he can't have that opinion because its a "fact"? Because the quantity of people with that opinion doesn't mean that its a fact instead of just a completely subjective opinion/preference, so I don't see how meeting or not meeting such a fan would matter at all except for those first possibilities I mentioned.

Anyway, if you need a more easy to understand example of a present character that many feel its more badass than his future counterpart, many feel that SSJ2 teen Gohan is more badass than his future counterpart (even his adult future counterpart).

[TheGmGoken]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Read my above post. I clearly state that I find Trunks (Present) to be much cooler, better, and much more than Future Trunks. It's my opinion. I NEVER found Trunks of the Future "badass". He's vanilla.

[miguelnuva1]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Why? To mock his preference? To say that he can't have that opinion because its a "fact"? Because the quantity of people with that opinion doesn't mean that its a fact instead of just a completely subjective opinion/preference, so I don't see how meeting or not meeting such a fan would matter at all except for those first possibilities I mentioned.

Anyway, if you need a more easy to understand example of a present character that many feel its more badass than his future counterpart, many feel that SSJ2 teen Gohan is more badass than his future counterpart (even his adult future counterpart).

Did I say I wanted to mock them for there preference. I'm just so use to hearing Future Trunks is more badass I would like to see someone who disagrees with the majority.

[KaiserNeko]

Personally?

Future Trunks is more "badass". From his background (time traveling from an apocalyptic future to save the future V.S. a little kid acting like a little kid, fighting with Goten, up against a monster), to the actions he takes, etc. I don't see kid Trunks/GT Trunks as badass... at all, really. There's nothing that makes him cool, honestly, to me.

[DarkPrince_92]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Read my above post. I clearly state that I find Trunks (Present) to be much cooler, better, and much more than Future Trunks. It's my opinion. I NEVER found Trunks of the Future "badass". He's vanilla.

The one time I'll agree with Goten's biggest fan here (hopefully your surgery went well, btw).

Future Trunks was only cool when he appeared... and when he left. He just whined the rest of the time. However, I don't see how present Trunks is any cooler...

[miguelnuva1]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Read my above post. I clearly state that I find Trunks (Present) to be much cooler, better, and much more than Future Trunks. It's my opinion. I NEVER found Trunks of the Future "badass". He's vanilla.

What he did to Frieza I think out ranks anything Kid Trunks did. Most people when they think of Future Trunks think of the sword and how he dealt with Frieza. For Future Gohan they remember his Anime fights where he had one hand and was still on par with the Androids.

[Gyt Kaliba]

While I would certainly never fault someone for their opinion, I'd have to agree that it's hard to imagine Kid Trunks as being seen more badass than Future Trunks was. Maybe I'm a bit biased since his infamous sword-slicing of Freeza is what fully brought me into the series, but...seriously, how do you top that?

That said though, I think I do enjoy Kid Trunks more, badassery or lack of aside. The 'badass train' for Future Trunks got a little overbearing back in the old days, and I've always had a fond spot for humorous characters more so than badass ones (but when a character manages to be both, that's a winner in my books!).

[FortuneSSJ]

Two different lifes can make two different people.
I agree with the saying Future Trunks is a better character. His backstory is just beautiful, writting wise of course.
And I always found Future Gohan and Future Trunks to be the strongest heroes, psychologically. They had to live without Dragon Balls, while they were tranning to get stronger and avoid the Cyborgs. Thats what makes Future Gohan death one of the most saddest to me. The guy never came back.

Compared to this, I can't stop looking to present Trunks and see a spoiled kid.

[TheGmGoken]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Read my above post. I clearly state that I find Trunks (Present) to be much cooler, better, and much more than Future Trunks. It's my opinion. I NEVER found Trunks of the Future "badass". He's vanilla.

What he did to Freeza I think out ranks anything Kid Trunks did. Most people when they think of Future Trunks think of the sword and how he dealt with Freeza. For Future Gohan they remember his Anime fights where he had one hand and was still on par with the Androids.

Doing 1 cool thing doesn't make you badass. And the Future Gohan fight was an awesome fight. I wouldn't say it made him badass though.

[KaiserNeko]

... what exactly makes a "badass" to everyone here?

Because while I understand that future Trunks' character isn't incredibly badass, what with his indecision, somewhat whiney demeanor, and how he ultimately makes a ton of mistakes before the series is over...

... his background is far more tragic and complex than kid Trunks. The actions he takes, primarily in his first appearance, are more "badass" than anything I remember kid Trunks doing, as is his appearance after exiting the Room of Spirit and Time. He, as a character, is also far more complex than kid Trunks ever ended up being, to me. No offense to that character, but while being a cute, cheeky, smartass little kid was pretty great, and I absolutely would have loved to have seen more of that character as he grew up instead of turning into utter waste in GT, he's never "badass" to me. No action he ever takes is "badass" to me. Nothing about his background is "badass" to me.

Now, to be straight? Neither of those characters are really that "badass", to me. But kid Trunks is by no means more "badass" than future Trunks.

As for future Gohan: We are not making any jokes about how he was "more badass" than main timeline Gohan. Never even crossed our minds. (Although, was he a "badass"? Well, I'd say going up against both of the Artificial Humans with only one arm was pretty goddamn stupid, if you ask me, but... I'd count that as "badass". Especially in the rain, all battle-scarred, and kicking their asses for just a small moment.)

[miguelnuva1]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Read my above post. I clearly state that I find Trunks (Present) to be much cooler, better, and much more than Future Trunks. It's my opinion. I NEVER found Trunks of the Future "badass". He's vanilla.

What he did to Freeza I think out ranks anything Kid Trunks did. Most people when they think of Future Trunks think of the sword and how he dealt with Freeza. For Future Gohan they remember his Anime fights where he had one hand and was still on par with the Androids.

Doing 1 cool thing doesn't make you badass. And the Future Gohan fight was an awesome fight. I wouldn't say it made him badass though.[/quote]

Yes it does. Future Trunks just lost it when the Androids cam3 on the scene. At that point in Dbz anyone that makes Frieza look like nothing was going to have that cool factor to him.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I'm just wondering if there will be any jokes about 18's hair

[FoolsGil]

I'm just wondering if there will be any jokes about 18's hair

Why specifically 18's hair of all things?

[Gyt Kaliba]

... what exactly makes a "badass" to everyone here?

As for future Gohan: We are not making any jokes about how he was "more badass" than main timeline Gohan. Never even crossed our minds. (Although, was he a "badass"? Well, I'd say going up against both of the Artificial Humans with only one arm was pretty goddamn stupid, if you ask me, but... I'd count that as "badass". Especially in the rain, all battle-scarred, and kicking their asses for just a small moment.)

Pretty much things exactly like your example there, at least for me. Situations where a character gives it their all, tries their damndest to win, even when they know they have absolutely no chance - and whether they end up winning because of it, or even if they still lose in the end, those are the kinds of things that strike me as 'badass' more than anything else. So for what it's worth, I for one do kind of find Future Gohan more badass than Future Trunks.

Not that I'm retroactively calling for any jokes about his badassness or anything though. I meant this just for the debate on badass-ness.

I'm just wondering if there will be any jokes about 18's hair

Why specifically 18's hair of all things?

I'm assuming he means the part where Trunks manages to slice off one of her bangs (pretty sure that was in this special anyway).

[DBZAOTA482]

If there us a dbz fan that feels present Trunks is more badass then Future Trunks I would love to meet them.

Read my above post. I clearly state that I find Trunks (Present) to be much cooler, better, and much more than Future Trunks. It's my opinion. I NEVER found Trunks of the Future "badass". He's vanilla.

What he did to Freeza I think out ranks anything Kid Trunks did. Most people when they think of Future Trunks think of the sword and how he dealt with Freeza. For Future Gohan they remember his Anime fights where he had one hand and was still on par with the Androids.

There's also the fight with the androids of his timeline and him standing up to Vegeta when he wanted Cell to become perfect. His fight with Cell was also pretty cool in the anime. As for Present Trunks, all he did was talk shit as a kid and become a stressed-out babysitter as an adult. Definitely not more badass.

[Lord Beerus]

There's also the fight with the androids of his timeline and him standing up to Vegeta when he wanted Cell to become perfect. His fight with Cell was also pretty cool in the anime. As for Present Trunks, all he did was talk shit as a kid and become a stressed-out babysitter as an adult. Definitely not more badass.

Future Trunks also contributed much more to the plot and is a much more developed and likable as a character.

[dbzfan7]

History of Trunks is coming up. I wonder how they'll handle this dark story line. I also really do wonder who will play Future Adult Gohan. Will it still be Masako X? Someone new? One of the head trio? I'd guess who ever takes this roll would probably be Adult Gohan in the Boo saga if or whenever they get there.

Though I really dread some lame joke about F. Gohan is badass and Present Gohan is lame. People really overestimate F. Gohan as some uber badass which I just don't entirely see. I see how he's cool, but not the end all be all should have been Boo saga Gohan.

He held his own against the Androids with one arm and was winning at one point.

Anime only. In the manga he was most likely curb stomped when half power 17 was far more than he could handle in the past. He also threw away his life like an idiot and left everything to Trunks.

Anyone who can survive the apocalypse for a long period of time is a badass, especially when compared to their softer, non apocalypse counterpart. Mirai Trunks > Normal Trunks, not opinion, that is fact. It's the same with Mirai Gohan > Normal Gohan. At the very least Mirai Gohan would have kept on training.

Then threw away his life in a dumb fight he had no chance in. No point in saving people if you have no chance of winning as they are just going to die anyways. Especially since the best hope is for the two of them to work together, and not just go die. Also the namek balls could have been used to fix everything anyways, or better yet Gohan could have kept his cool and one day travel to the past with Trunks.

As for future Gohan: We are not making any jokes about how he was "more badass" than main timeline Gohan. Never even crossed our minds. (Although, was he a "badass"? Well, I'd say going up against both of the Artificial Humans with only one arm was pretty goddamn stupid, if you ask me, but... I'd count that as "badass". Especially in the rain, all battle-scarred, and kicking their asses for just a small moment.)

Ah thank you. I think he's cool, and his fight was badass in the anime, but his reason was stupid. He threw his life away cause people were dying which then left Trunks all alone and the only guy to be able to do something. Considering this Gohan couldn't even get that strong from training alone, Trunks would be screwed if not for the time machine. A better idea would be to keep training with Trunks as to make them both powerful (Or if he lasted, join Trunks in the time machine later created).

[RandomGuy96]

I don't think the term "badass" really means anything anymore. It's too vague on its own.

[miguelnuva1]

History of Trunks is coming up. I wonder how they'll handle this dark story line. I also really do wonder who will play Future Adult Gohan. Will it still be Masako X? Someone new? One of the head trio? I'd guess who ever takes this roll would probably be Adult Gohan in the Boo saga if or whenever they get there.

Though I really dread some lame joke about F. Gohan is badass and Present Gohan is lame. People really overestimate F. Gohan as some uber badass which I just don't entirely see. I see how he's cool, but not the end all be all should have been Boo saga Gohan.

He held his own against the Androids with one arm and was winning at one point.

Anime only. In the manga he was most likely curb stomped when half power 17 was far more than he could handle in the past. He also threw away his life like an idiot and left

That was the whole point. The majority of Future Gohan fans saw the anime first thus they call him badass.

As for throwing his life away it was more like what Obi Wan dod for Luke. If Trunks wasn't born Gohan might have been less reckless.

[dbzfan7]

That was the whole point. The majority of Future Gohan fans saw the anime first thus they call him badass.

As for throwing his life away it was more like what Obi Wan dod for Luke. If Trunks wasn't born Gohan might have been less reckless.

Doesn't matter. The manga holds top priority. While I think F. Gohan is cool, I think people overrate the crap out of him. Pretty much the same with cell games Gohan which is really just SSJ2 Kid Gohan as everyone seems to forget every moment before that. My issue with F. Gohan who I do think is cool, was he had no good reason to sacrifice himself there. There was nothing he could do so the best option would be to just keep on training with Trunks. If he went on this path perhaps they could have won if they got strong enough, or Gohan could have joined Trunks in the time machine.