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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:35 pm

I know a lot of people say the form makes them more battle hungry and blood thirsty, but I don't think that's the case.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:39 pm

ABED wrote:I know a lot of people say the form makes them more battle hungry and blood thirsty, but I don't think that's the case.
It was outright stated, and nothing ever contradicted it. Your entitled to your own opinion.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Lord Frieza » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:44 pm

Ok I've got two that tie into one.

First of I like that super retold the BoG and RoF arcs. Why? Partly from a narrative stand point, the movies were are to widely spaced apart to allow any other story to be realistically told between RoF and EoZ. Hell super is working hard to squeeze everything in as is. Secondly I love the Super BoG arc, while it did have issues, the ace itself did some (but not everything) better then the movie. While I cannot defend the RoF arc as a whole I was very pleased by what they did with Tagoma and Ginyu as well as the few extra character moments thrown in. Also Frieza death beaming SS Gohan is just as awesome for me to watch as his one hit KO.

And here we some to my other thing, Super's Beerus or rather his introduction (which is gonna put me at odds with TFS). I personally love the darker introduction to Beerus. While the movies introduction of him was great we never once saw Beerus being a God of Destruction. Yes he is called one and he has the presence but I dearly wanted to see him working. I personally feel that it adds to the overall threat that is him, getting to see just how effortless blowing up planets is for him compared to passed villain and just how easily it is to rub him up the wrong way.

Also I like Clown God to. To quote MIB2 "ALL HAIL CLOWN GOD, ALL HAIL CLOWN GOD!".

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by The gr » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:52 pm

Dbs Chapter 13 has really good Fighting choreography I argue some parts of this fight is way better than the anime
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        Re: Unpopular DB opinions

        Post by Gog » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:55 pm

        The gr wrote:Dbs Chapter 13 has really good Fighting choreography I argue some parts of this fight is way better than the anime
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              Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:59 pm

              Gog wrote:
              The gr wrote:Dbs Chapter 13 has really good Fighting choreography I argue some parts of this fight is way better than the anime
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                    Re: Unpopular DB opinions

                    Post by Gog » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:01 pm

                    Kamiccolo9 wrote:
                    Gog wrote:
                    The gr wrote:Dbs Chapter 13 has really good Fighting choreography I argue some parts of this fight is way better than the anime
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                          Post by nickzambuto » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:00 pm

                          They aren't working for me either.

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                          Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:03 pm

                          The images are of the Goku x Hit fight from Chapter 13, it's on Viz's website if you want to look through.
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                          Post by The gr » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:04 pm

                          Gog wrote:
                          The gr wrote:Dbs Chapter 13 has really good Fighting choreography I argue some parts of this fight is way better than the anime
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                                nickzambuto wrote:They aren't working for me either.
                                The images work on me I assume you guys have bad internet but come on didn't anyone read chapter 13 I'm specifically taking about the part of ssj goku vs hit that part was so detailed and the choreography and artwork was also good the same could be applied with base goku vs hit
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                                Re: Unpopular DB opinions

                                Post by ABED » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:34 pm

                                Gog wrote:
                                ABED wrote:I know a lot of people say the form makes them more battle hungry and blood thirsty, but I don't think that's the case.
                                It was outright stated, and nothing ever contradicted it. Your entitled to your own opinion.
                                When? After Goku transformed? That isn't the transformation, that is him being pissed because his best friend was brutally murdered in front of him. The only way he reacted differently is that he got pissed at Gohan, but that was temporary. And it doesn't matter what's stated as much as what is shown. For supposedly being more battle hungry and more blood thirsty, the Super Saiyans are remarkably similar to how they always are.
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                                Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:46 pm

                                Goku was angry that Krillin was killed, then Frieza began targeting his only son. We can't really use the Frieza/Goku battle to say SSJ gives someone a more "battle hungry" sense. And look at Trunks transforming, he never acts like Vegeta would when being in that form, actually Trunks still acts like the same person as he would in base form.

                                Maybe at first the form gives a Saiyan that trait but later disappears or becomes less apparent? Some say it happens to Vegeta but let's face it, it's just his cockiness taking control. He's always been a cocky bastard.
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                                Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:10 am

                                It was only stated SSJ when untrained makes the user more aggressive. Freeza simply caught the blunt of SSJ Goku's aggression because he killed his best friend in front of him seemingly for good to spite him.
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                                Re: Unpopular DB opinions

                                Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:43 am

                                I don't understand the power level part of fandom..
                                All those random numbers makes no sense when we have so little to go on..

                                Also, the two base theory is just a theory, a bad one at that, which the show dosen't even hint at..
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                                Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:47 am

                                Ki Breaker wrote:I don't understand the power level part of fandom..
                                All those random numbers makes no sense when we have so little to go on..

                                Also, the two base theory is just a theory, a bad one at that, which the show dosen't even hint at..
                                There's a recton somewhere and toie is at fault
                                The two base theory is a result of RoF, where Goku and Vegeta's increase is so bonkers that there has to be some unknown variable to account. Regardless, I agree with everything you said.
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                                Post by Gog » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:49 am

                                Ki Breaker wrote:I don't understand the power level part of fandom..
                                All those random numbers makes no sense when we have so little to go on..
                                People just like crunching numbers, it's entertaining, in a very weird way. Nothing more, and nothing less, just some sick fun.
                                Ki Breaker wrote: Also, the two base theory is just a theory, a bad one at that, which the show dosen't even hint at..
                                There's a recton somewhere and toie is at fault
                                Nearly everyone has been hit with a retcon at least once. Goku, Vegeta, Freeza, and eeveerrytthhiingg eeelllsseee. But yeah complete and utter retcon.

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                                Post by The Patrolman » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:02 pm

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                                Post by MyNiggaGoku » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:08 pm

                                I want Super's final arc to be based around GT's final arc,the Evil Dragons arc,which is imo one of the best in the series.
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                                Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:19 pm

                                MyNiggaGoku wrote:I want Super's final arc to be based around GT's final arc,the Evil Dragons arc,which is imo one of the best in the series.
                                Why? It was fun enough in GT, and even made for a great ending. However, I'd rather them do something original, not to mention that it would be tonally backwards from the arcs we've gotten so far.
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                                Post by MyNiggaGoku » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:31 pm

                                Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
                                MyNiggaGoku wrote:I want Super's final arc to be based around GT's final arc,the Evil Dragons arc,which is imo one of the best in the series.
                                Why? It was fun enough in GT, and even made for a great ending. However, I'd rather them do something original, not to mention that it would be tonally backwards from the arcs we've gotten so far.
                                I would like such ending only if the usage of the Super Dragon Balls becomes excessive.I don't want a shameless copy of the GT arc but instead something with a similar theme.Don't know why but I find this whole ''the Dragon Balls are now your enemies because you abused them'' thing pretty cool.
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