Dragonball Movie Update! What is UP with this?

[Velasa]

Madman still has both of their Dragonball complete box sets in stock, these are collections of all the two disc sets, uncut and bilingual, including the first 13 episodes.

.... This makes me somewhat annoyed that I just recently finished getting all of dragonball save the first 13 eps and the extremely expensive one on the old Funi 2-dvd sets.

I do have the first 13 eps- on those really old vhs that had two dubbed episodes and cost ten dollars, but the one Red Ribbon set I have no version of. I want them- but when I have so much of it already I really don't want to re-buy that much of it.

[SonEric84]

I love that flashback, Mutaito was a bad ass. "I will return without fail." Gives me chills.

[Raki]

That was amazing. I haven't seen that part in the anime (I only have the last three of Funi's DB sets, so I don't have the early Piccolo stuff), but the Daimao arc is possibly my favorite part of the manga, so I really liked seeing more of the back story for that. The scenes of Piccolo's spawn attacking that city remind me of Devilman for some reason.

*Off-topic rant*


Muten Roshi, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo in particular are all especially given so much more depth and dimension by the time one gets to Z, and all the deaths in the Saiya-jin saga have way more of an impact.

*End off-topic rant*

The deaths of the Z Warriors during the fight with the Saiyans meant nothing to me until I watched Dragonball.

[Herms]

The two shows aren't anywhere near as disconnected as so many people seem inexplicably convinced they are (hell, it's all part of the same damn manga at the end of the day)

Well, part of that has to do with the fact that in America, even the manga is divided up between Z and non-Z. While I understand why Viz chose to split the manga up into two series and release them each at the same time, it pretty much cemented in the minds of casuals fans and non-fans alike that there is some great disconnect between those two periods of the story. And I think this hurts how people view DragonBall as a whole, since they end up disregarding the early stuff in favor of the Z-era, and like you said you can't properly enjoy or understand Z without what comes before.

Which, to bring this vaguely back on topic, is why I'm so glad the live-action movie isn't starting at Z. It gives me hope that, however much they may be changing things, someone there has at least some understanding of the story.

[Kunzait_83]

Well, part of that has to do with the fact that in America, even the manga is divided up between Z and non-Z. While I understand why Viz chose to split the manga up into two series and release them each at the same time, it pretty much cemented in the minds of casuals fans and non-fans alike that there is some great disconnect between those two periods of the story.

That's an excellent point, and I'm a bit surprised at how many people seem to totally and unquestioningly buy into that line of thinking, especially considering that (in my experience at least) many hardcore manga enthusiasts often tend to pride themselves on being way more informed about such things than the average anime-centric fan.

Aside from that though, I honestly also think that FUNimation's total non-marketing of Dragon Ball in favor of their everything but the kitchen sink all out blitz approach for Z (and even GT) plays an equally major role in perpetuating in the public's mind this illusion of a "great disconnect" (as you put it) between both periods of the series.

Which, to bring this vaguely back on topic, is why I'm so glad the live-action movie isn't starting at Z. It gives me hope that, however much they may be changing things, someone there has at least some understanding of the story.

Very well said, and I wholly agree. It likewise pleases me greatly to see that most of my early, pessimistic predictions for how Hollywood would approach this movie have (thus far at least, from what little we actually know) been largely off base.

[Kid Trunks]

Madman still has both of their Dragonball complete box sets in stock, these are collections of all the two disc sets, uncut and bilingual, including the first 13 episodes.

.... This makes me somewhat annoyed that I just recently finished getting all of dragonball save the first 13 eps and the extremely expensive one on the old Funi 2-dvd sets.

I do have the first 13 eps- on those really old vhs that had two dubbed episodes and cost ten dollars, but the one Red Ribbon set I have no version of. I want them- but when I have so much of it already I really don't want to re-buy that much of it.

I ordered the first half of Dragonball from Madman about 2 weeks ago. Should be here soon. I'm soon damn looking forward to it. Can't wait!

[Rocketman]

I'm not sure why his name is Mutaito when Hudson is black...

The same reason why a white guy is named Son Goku.

Mutaito's an alien?

[Herms]

I'm not sure why his name is Mutaito when Hudson is black...

The same reason why a white guy is named Son Goku.

Mutaito's an alien?

Has there been any actual confirmation that the reason they cast a white actor as Goku is because of Goku's alien nature? Because I thought that was just speculation, and really nonsensical speculation at that ("he's an alien, so of course he'd be white!"...huh?). As sailorspazz suggested way back when, perhaps they just cast Chatwin as Goku because they thought he'd be good for the part. Same for Hudson.

[Big Momma]

I just wanted to show this from the link in the last page.

Next, they interviewed Jamie Chung. She is a crisp girl, her face was expressive, like as a small animal, her lower lip and twinkling almond eyes were adorable. Press men got hot immediately. She resembled kid Chi-Chi rather than adult Chi-Chi. She said her type is a pretty boy.

Hahaha, thats some nice observation there, press guy.

[Rocketman]

Has there been any actual confirmation that the reason they cast a white actor as Goku is because of Goku's alien nature? Because I thought that was just speculation, and really nonsensical speculation at that ("he's an alien, so of course he'd be white!"...huh?).

I dunno. My point with it was "he's an alien, so he doesn't have to be Asian" in response to the people shaving their heads and wearing sackcloth because a guy named 'Goku Son' was a cracker.

[Kendamu]

Has there been any actual confirmation that the reason they cast a white actor as Goku is because of Goku's alien nature? Because I thought that was just speculation, and really nonsensical speculation at that ("he's an alien, so of course he'd be white!"...huh?).

I dunno. My point with it was "he's an alien, so he doesn't have to be Asian" in response to the people shaving their heads and wearing sackcloth because a guy named 'Goku Son' was a cracker.

Because, you know, it was that bad. They had to impose a curfew in several cities due to the violence caused by racial tension.

Seriously, I think the people who defend Goku as a white guy are more uptight about Chatwin's race than anybody who questions the casting choice based on race.

[djkalteraphine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Che9VsTgkc

Hands down one of the coolest scenes in the whole damn series and proof positive that anime filler can sometimes be totally fucking kickass while actually supplementing information already given in the manga.

Dragon Ball (the series, not the franchise) has some of the best, complimentary filler I've seen in a Shonen anime. It's easy to write it off, as most do, because one or two stories were retconned (but even that's debatable), or because Z's filler is so drawn out and frustrating (and Z is what most are familiar with). But I couldn't disagree more. As I said, I love a lot of DB's "filler", and it's parts like this that really harden my love for it.

This is why I always tell people to give original DB a chance, and to check out the full series from start to finish if possible. IMO DB should be required viewing for all newbies before going into Z.

Couldn't agree more. Like you, I'm constantly urging folks to give it a chance. DBZ (and DBGT) are so much more satisfying in proper context. It helps that Dragon Ball is also damn exciting, even after multiple viewings or rereads.

That said, Mutaito in this film has softened me to this movie. While I'm still skeptical over the lack of Kuririn, and Goku's proper origin, this movie be yet an exciting adaption of Piccolo Daimao, at any rate.

[Onikage725]

Seriously, I think the people who defend Goku as a white guy are more uptight about Chatwin's race than anybody who questions the casting choice based on race.

So you haven't been to Youtube? Cuz people flip out over Goku not being Japanese.

I don't personally care either way, but I buy a white Goku because he's a Saiyan who was adopted by an asian-themed guy (DB earth doesn't actually have an Asia).

Plus, Vegeta strikes me as an american parody sort of. Just this short dude in tactical armor who shows up with Bill Goldberg at his side to yoink the DB's and overthrow his boss. His style is very direct, most of his attacks are in english, one of them is patterned after a nuke. So if I can by Vegeta as that sort, Goku as a caucasian-asian isn't much of a stretch for me.

[omegacwa]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if Bill Goldberg or Nathan Jones get cast as Nappa.

[Onikage725]

Jones played Boagrius in Troy, right? He'd be a pretty good Nappa, at least visually.

[Kendamu]

Seriously, I think the people who defend Goku as a white guy are more uptight about Chatwin's race than anybody who questions the casting choice based on race.

So you haven't been to Youtube? Cuz people flip out over Goku not being Japanese.

I was speaking more along the lines of the DaizEX crowd. I take YouTube comments about as seriously as Knock Knock jokes.

[djkalteraphine]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if Bill Goldberg or Nathan Jones get cast as Nappa.

I'm holding out for "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. He's awesome, and reminds me of Ocean dub Nappa. "It ain't easy bein' a role model. Little punks lookin' up to ya."

[JAPPO]

More translations from the Jjmp SQ article, mostly about the characters.

http://dbthemovie.com/2008/07/13/jumpsqaugustsetreport/

Stand-out news: Chatwin buffed up for Goku, Chow Yun-Fat's Roshi is as perverted and mischievous as ever, and Marsters continues to go nuts for Piccolo.

Glad you liked the news .

[The Time Traveller]

I got last weeks Shonen Jump, and it has the same old same old pictures, still pretty cool to see them with better quality though, the blue gi looks awesomer...

[JAPPO]

I got last weeks Shonen Jump, and it has the same old same old pictures, still pretty cool to see them with better quality though, the blue gi looks awesomer...

Could you scan them and send them into dbthemovie@gmail.com for me?

Lol.

Also, a new playboy scan: http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/scan.jpg