Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

Super Saiyan 4 was created by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru the Character Designer for Dragon Ball GT. Perhaps Akira Toriyama is doing his own thing on a form beyond Super Saiyan 3.

[JulieYBM]

So, Maeda Minoru creates Giji Super Saiyan, Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi creates Super Saiyan 4, and Watanabe Yuusuke, Toriyama Akira, and Yamamuro Tadayoshi create Super Saiyan God. Poor Yamamuro's getting something of a jip.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Actually, based on all the talk in V-Jump making it sound like this is what the legend was talking about the whole time, I wouldn't have been surprised if they had named it "Legendary Super Saiyan"...but they kind of wrote themselves into a corner with Broli years ago. xD

Hadn't thought of that, that's a possibility too I guess.

Unless Broly is 'Another Saiyan' when he pops up and saves the day. Clearly. ...Don't kill me.

[Chuquita]

Hey guys, I just realized in the aftermath of this amazing trailer and the soundtrack list being revealed; we still don't know what's up with that WCF Vegeta figure's pose/expression. There's nothing hinting at why he's like that. o_O
I mean, it's gotta be something interesting if they made a toy of it.

I'm probably not going to learn the story behind that overly-cheerful Vegeta figure until after the movie, am I? XD

[Hellspawn28]

There are those of us too though that, for all it's faults, do like to try and tie GT in together with the story as a whole, since it does have some pretty good ideas in there. And the implications of this new form could possibly make that even harder than it was before, that's all.

I can understand that, but given how GT turn out in 1996-1997 that I feel like Toei is not going to bother trying to link it up or make a flow up too it.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I can understand that, but given how GT turn out in 1996-1997 that I feel like Toei is not going to bother trying to link it up or make a flow up too it.

Yeah, I understand it's not something they'd do intentionally (and as you said earlier I think, they even said they weren't paying it any mind). I just meant that this could make it harder to do, depending on how it goes. Not a huge deal, but it would be a minor annoyance.

Hey guys, I just realized in the aftermath of this amazing trailer and the soundtrack list being revealed; we still don't know what's up with that WCF Vegeta figure's pose/expression. There's nothing hinting at why he's like that. o_O
I mean, it's gotta be something interesting if they made a toy of it.

Gotta admit, I forgot all about that figure again. Hmm...maybe it's an over-the-top reaction to Goku becoming a Super Saiyan God and leaving Vegeta behind again?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Toriyama only designed the characters.

He also heavily contributed to the scenario of the movie.

we still don't know what's up with that WCF Vegeta figure's pose/expression. There's nothing hinting at why he's like that. o_O
I mean, it's gotta be something interesting if they made a toy of it.

That guy is obviously that other Saiyan. He is the perverted Vegeta-like Saiyan (like Tullece was the evil Goku-like Saiyan) that wore Vegeta's old clothes to seduce that hot MILF with the blue hair.

[Chuquita]

Bulma with two Vegetas. XD

Hey guys, I just realized in the aftermath of this amazing trailer and the soundtrack list being revealed; we still don't know what's up with that WCF Vegeta figure's pose/expression. There's nothing hinting at why he's like that. o_O
I mean, it's gotta be something interesting if they made a toy of it.

Gotta admit, I forgot all about that figure again. Hmm...maybe it's an over-the-top reaction to Goku becoming a Super Saiyan God and leaving Vegeta behind again?

I seem to be continuously forgetting about the WCF toys whenever something new happens and then remembering about them after the fact. ^^; I think for me it's because it's just been so long since they were first revealed (back in November).

Vegeta's smiling there, but the thing is it's not his typical smug smile with the folded; WCF figure Vegeta is enthralled, bent forward, and with his arms clasped up over his heart. XD
It just seems so OOC of Vegeta to react to anything that way.

[Jaetinh]

Am I the only one here who is still waiting for a full translation of the new Toriyama comment?

Man, that other Saiyan is obviously... Future Trunks.

Let me dream.

[VegettoEX]

Translations of that and even more stuff we haven't mentioned yet is coming -- worry not. People gotta sleep at some point! And by "people" I mean "Julian". And by "at some point" I mean "for a couple hours right this second before he gets back up and just starts working on this again".

[TheMightyOzaru]

A new SSJ form huh? Well this will effecively make GT non canon since Goku never uses it.

[Kaboom]

GT as a whole may not be so hot, but Super Saiyan 4 is the one thing from it that's actually worthwhile and impressive. So I just mean that I hope the new movie doesn't completely blow all "future" possibilities or usefulness for it out of the water in some way. Hence why I'm hoping that this "Super Saiyan God" thing, whatever it is, will just be a one-time thing solely for this movie, rather than a new standard form that he can use again in the future.

It'd be better that way overall, if you ask me. The movie's technically set before the end of the manga, after all, and having Goku achieve and KEEP some sort of god-like, overwhelming power-up wouldn't really mesh well with the manga's epilogue.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It would fit with the epilogue. Goku still feels it shouldn't be his duty to protect Earth so getting som God-like power up won't change anything. Honestly I feel Goku should be that powerful since he works so hard. This would also effecitvely make Goku vs Superman a closer fight as opposed to a straight pwnage. That is of course assuming Goku doesn't become Omnipotent. If that's the case he will stomp any Superman.

[sailorspazz]

Hey guys, I just realized in the aftermath of this amazing trailer and the soundtrack list being revealed; we still don't know what's up with that WCF Vegeta figure's pose/expression. There's nothing hinting at why he's like that. o_O
I mean, it's gotta be something interesting if they made a toy of it.

Obviously, Vegeta was the winner of the bingo tournament mentioned in the track listing. "Yes. YES! I finally beat Kakarrot at something!"

Funniest thing about the track listing is "The Pilaf Gang Arrives" followed immediately by "The Pilaf Gang is Driven Off". Well, that didn't take long And the use of the word "gang" makes these listings sound like "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" episode titles to me. That would be one bizarre crossover...

If the tracks are listed in order of movie events, something weird must be happening around tracks 19~22.
19. The Curtain Opens on a Bingo Tournament
20. The Pilaf Gang Arrives (Baby Gang)
21. Birusu’s Wrath
22. Fun Bingo

OK, so they start playing bingo, the Pilaf gang comes back again as kids, Birusu shows his wrath, and the bingo is apparently still going? Maybe they're cutting between different scenes, because all of that happening at the same place and time might be a bit complicated (unless Birusu's angry because he's losing at bingo )

[JeffJarrett]

The bingo thing must be a tournament ala Cell Games, and the Pilaf Gang enters the tournament. They make Bills angry, and it then becomes a funny scene.

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

I saw in the trailer a fight between Birusu and Majin Boo. Former Demon of Destruction vs God of Destruction is very cool.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[DBZGTKOSDH]

This would also effecitvely make Goku vs Superman a closer fight as opposed to a straight pwnage. That is of course assuming Goku doesn't become Omnipotent. If that's the case he will stomp any Superman.

Goku won't became Omnipotent, because according to the soundtrack list, he is gonna have trouble against Birusu after his transformation. And I doubt the power increase would be big enough to cover the huge difference between Goku's & Superman's powers.

[Herms]

Super-quick but hopefully better than Google translation of Toriyama's comment:
Edit: Fixed up a little. One ridiculous mistake corrected.

Apparently it's been 17 years since the last Dragon Ball animated movie! For all the animation up to now, I've basically jut left everything up [to the staff], so this is my first try at being involved starting from the story's creation. The key words this time, "God of Destruction Bilus" and "Super Saiyan God", were suggestions from the scriptwriter, but they were good ideas for presenting a crisis for the main characters, who had grown so strong that they'd reached a point where there was nothing higher. After first deciding on Bilus' character design and background, I tried thinking up an original story, imagining as if [the manga's] serialization had continued. What's more, the God of Destruction Bilus, who I drew the design for myself (something I don't usually do), is a terrifyingly opponent so overwhelmingly strong that he surpasses the dimension of the previous enemies. But it's my trademark to not let things get too dark. At the very least I'm satisfied to finish up a very entertaining piece of work.

By the way, the battle scenes in the second half are particularly overwhelming! I was moved because the presentation was better than I expected. Just as you'd expect, Japan's animation is superb! Everyone on the staff, you really did a great job!! Well, please enjoy the first Dragon Ball in a long time!

[KaiserNeko]

I'm actually pretty excited right now! Both for the movie...

... and to get my grubby hands on that soundtrack.

What?! I'M RUNNING OUT OF TRACKS TO USE IN ABRIDGED. I NEED MORE DRAGONBALL MUSIC. *Flips table!*

Also, positively loving the comedy we've seen so far. Love me some Saiyaman and Piccolo singing.