The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Khin]

An evil that came out due to his anger. The evil swelled up just as Fat Buu got angrier. It's not difficult to correlate the two, and it's far simpler to consider, without further notes from the narrator, that Evil Buu is just stronger than a Buu that has barely changed in appearance, only power. Why? Because the evil that made his power, which he got access to through anger, was no longer there. The anime had no narrator for this scene (I think), and the task was made simpler by just looking.

''Swelling up'' can mean into many things,the line doesn't prove anything that Grey Boo is stronger than Fat Boo,there was no line whatsoever that stated that Innocent Boo got stronger when he got angry and you're ignoring the clear line that stated that Fat Boo's power was divided into Grey and Good Boo.

Spoiler:

Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P7.4
Context: as the two Boos fight
Narrator: “The original Majin Boo had no chance of winning...This was because during the split, the majority of the power went to the evil one…"

[Darkprince410]

Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P7.4
Context: as the two Boos fight
Narrator: “The original Majin Boo had no chance of winning...This was because during the split, the majority of the power went to the evil one…"

Fat Buu expelled an evil that greatly swelled up inside of him, before he was even divided into Evil and Good. Split refers to them being divided, not their power. The only thing we know is that Evil Buu is stronger than Good Buu, but given the context of an evil that swelled up inside of Fat Buu before the split, I would say that Evil Buu is stronger than the original Fat Buu. That's the only way he can absorb Good Buu and become stronger as Super Buu.

The quote you're using regarding the split is still indicating that the Pure Evil Buu was weaker than the original Fat Buu. It's saying that the evil within him swelled up (making him overall stronger) and then when Buu split into Mr. Buu and the Pure Evil Buu, the majority of the power that existed within the original Fat Buu went to the Pure Evil Buu. By saying the majority went to the Pure Evil Buu, it's saying that most of something, not all of it, went to him. And what is that "something" that is being made reference to? The power of the original Fat Buu.

As such, since it's getting the majority of Fat Buu's power, but not all of it, then the Pure Evil Buu has to be weaker than him.

[Desassina]

People like to complicate... Oh well, I know where my discussions are usually headed with you, so I'll take the opportunity to leave, but not without one last bit:

Fat Buu could be anywhere between 1.28 and 2, but he sits more comfortably at 1.6. His power greatly swells up and comes out as a 2, which is 1.25 times stronger than 1.6, while Good Buu is left with 1.25 times less than 1.6, which is 1.28. When Evil Buu (2) absorbs Good Buu (1.28), they become Super Buu, who sits at 2.56, which is the same thing as Fat Buu being multiplied by himself with no power loss.

Super Buu - 2.56
Evil Buu - 2
Fat Buu - 1.6
Good Buu - 1.28

See ya later.

[apex_pretador]

Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P7.4
Context: as the two Boos fight
Narrator: “The original Majin Boo had no chance of winning...This was because during the split, the majority of the power went to the evil one…"

Fat Buu expelled an evil that greatly swelled up inside of him, before he was even divided into Evil and Good. Split refers to them being divided, not their power. The only thing we know is that Evil Buu is stronger than Good Buu, but given the context of an evil that swelled up inside of Fat Buu before the split, I would say that Evil Buu is stronger than the original Fat Buu. That's the only way he can absorb Good Buu and become stronger as Super Buu.

The quote you're using regarding the split is still indicating that the Pure Evil Buu was weaker than the original Fat Buu. It's saying that the evil within him swelled up (making him overall stronger) and then when Buu split into Mr. Buu and the Pure Evil Buu, the majority of the power that existed within the original Fat Buu went to the Pure Evil Buu. By saying the majority went to the Pure Evil Buu, it's saying that most of something, not all of it, went to him. And what is that "something" that is being made reference to? The power of the original Fat Buu.

As such, since it's getting the majority of Fat Buu's power, but not all of it, then the Pure Evil Buu has to be weaker than him.

Weaker than total"existing" power in him, but not weaker than total "accessible" power to him.

See it like this: (units of 1 cell jr)

SS2 gohan = 2.9
Fat buu (calm) = 6
Fat buu (angry, max power available) = 8
SS3 goku = 16

Fat buu (Extremely enraged) = 12
Skinny buu = 12
Fat buu = 6

Super buu = 36

[Khin]

See it like this: (units of 1 cell jr)

SS2 gohan = 2.9
Fat buu (calm) = 6
Fat buu (angry, max power available) = 8
SS3 goku = 16

Fat buu (Extremely enraged) = 12
Skinny buu = 12
Fat buu = 6

Super buu = 36

As stated before,Innocent Boo's power was divided into Grey and Good Boo,so how is Innocent Boo = Pure Evil Boo ?

Majin Boo
-- Innocent : 25
-- Good : 10
-- Pure Evil : 15
-- Evil : 250

[apex_pretador]

See it like this: (units of 1 cell jr)

SS2 gohan = 2.9
Fat buu (calm) = 6
Fat buu (angry, max power available) = 8
SS3 goku = 16

Fat buu (Extremely enraged) = 12
Skinny buu = 12
Fat buu = 6

Super buu = 36

As stated before,Innocent Boo's power was divided into Grey and Good Boo,so how is Innocent Boo = Pure Evil Boo ?

Majin Boo
-- Innocent : 25
-- Good : 10
-- Pure Evil : 15
-- Evil : 250

1. The power of fat buu greatly grew when he was enraged
2. His ki wasn't felt by goku, only super buu's power was
3. Mr buu can't be weaker than SS2 vegeta
4. This is what-if thread, so i am not gonna discuss it anymore here.

[Darkprince410]

Fat buu (Extremely enraged) = 12
Skinny buu = 12
Fat buu = 6

Super buu = 36

No, for your Pure Evil Buu and Mr. Buu numbers to work, the enraged Fat Buu would have to be 18. At the peak of his anger, when his strength would have been at its highest, he split, and in that moment, most of that strength went to Pure Evil Buu, and the rest to Mr. Buu, thus no matter what, Fat Buu would have to be stronger.

3. Mr buu can't be weaker than SS2 vegeta

Why can't he be weaker than Ssj2 Vegeta? Buu's only real advantage shown against Pure Buu was his regeneration, and otherwise showed no indication he was stronger or weaker than Vegeta was.

[Desassina]

It shouldn't matter, because when Evil Buu is out, Fat Buu is no more, only Good Buu. Now, make up with each other xD

[Pocket-God]

Not sure if this has been asked yet but oh well.
How would the rest of the saiyan saga play out if Chiaotzu had killed Nappa when he used self-destruct?

[Victorious]

I would assume Vegeta would just effortlessly kill those who Nappa did. He might not bother fighting them though until he reads the 5000 battle power rating for Goku. I think he starts killing them until Krillin yelps for Goku, then stops, then when he reads 5,000 he starts killing them again. Goku shows up and they fight.

[FoolsGil]

What if Frost was in U7 instead of Freeza?

[LightBing]

What if Frost was in U7 instead of Freeza?

He would likely wage war against the Saiyans, for noble reasons. In this case he would be right. Depending on his relentless, maybe none would survive. Depending on the reach of Frost, if Earth was on his radar, he might have instigated a war and killed most humans; in return completing his scheme.

[ekrolo2]

What if Frost was in U7 instead of Freeza?

He'd probably have a field day with the Saiyan's since they'd be the perfect pawns for his scheme of razing planets to ashes then coming into save them. However, instead of killing them because of the Legend, I can see Frost killing them because they're getting both too difficult to control on the battlefield and he hears whispers of King Vegeta plotting against him so they aren't just dumb brutes.

[Khin]

What if Freeza was in the Universe 7 team ? The order of the team will be Piccolo --> Freeza --> Goku --> Vegeta --> Monaka.

[apex_pretador]

Not sure if this has been asked yet but oh well.
How would the rest of the saiyan saga play out if Chiaotzu had killed Nappa when he used self-destruct?

everyone dies, at the hands of vegeta.
Goku comes back, finds everyone dead, gets enraged, turns super saiyan & kills vegeta.

1 month later, king kai tells them to go to namek when krillin tells him to contact goku.
Then he goes to namek with bulma & Yajirobe, training his way to namek, and attaining power to beat freeza and revive his friends, namely piccolo , krillin & chiatzu. Freeza blows up namek.

Trained at king kai's place, piccolo & others are strong enough to think they stand a chance vs freeza & co. They bring back namek & everyone on namek in the same wish. .
Then they go to namek to wish back goku, and then he comes back to earth. Freeza finds them & blows up the earth.



TLDR- Freeza blows up earth & namek & rules till next 25 years, till beerus wakes up.

What if Freeza was in the Universe 7 team ? The order of the team will be Piccolo --> Freeza --> Goku --> Vegeta --> Monaka.

Piccolo beats botamo & frost.

Vegeta gets pissed for sure , because either he doesn't get to fight, or the opponent is too strong for him.

[LightBing]

What if Goku accepted Kami's offer and become Kami himself after the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai?

[FoolsGil]

What if Goku accepted Kami's offer and become Kami himself after the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai?

I'd assume with all of the otherworldly knowledge he'll learn, he'd spend a year training with King Kai not long after, to everyone's chagrin. If Raditz shows up, if there's a way to force Goku from intervening, I suppose he'd possess somebody to stop Raditz, and would have the Z Fighters deal with Nappa and Vegeta. He'd train them with the knowledge he received from King Kai, and I would assume everyone would fare better. But with no reason to go into space, Gero will destroy everything unless Goku finds out about Fusion from spending more time in Otherworld. It's all up in the air from there, with future sagas have an emphasis of human fusion instead of saiyan transformation.

[DBZAOTA482]

What if Goku accepted Kami's offer and become Kami himself after the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai?

Everyone dies. The End.

Spoiler:

[Hellspawn28]

Not sure if this has been asked yet but oh well.
How would the rest of the saiyan saga play out if Chiaotzu had killed Nappa when he used self-destruct?

Vegeta kills Tenshinhan first. Piccolo and Krillin would die next. Gohan would get a anger boost, but it won't be enough to save Vegeta. Goku would be in rage to see that everyone is dead. Goku would kill Vegeta without mercy and Goku would live on Earth until he dies from the heart virus.

[Kuririn Fan]

Not sure if this has been asked yet but oh well.
How would the rest of the saiyan saga play out if Chiaotzu had killed Nappa when he used self-destruct?

Vegeta kills Tenshinhan first. Piccolo and Krillin would die next. Gohan would get a anger boost, but it won't be enough to save Vegeta. Goku would be in rage to see that everyone is dead. Goku would kill Vegeta without mercy and Goku would live on Earth until he dies from the heart virus.

Well, that's depressing...