Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:36 am

Judging from Toriyama's comments I definetly consider it canon. I put canon more with anything Toriyama approves of and has quite a big part in, I know he was told of SSJG and Birusu, but everybody gets Ideas from somewhere and can use help when struggling to think of something. He clearly thought it was a good Idea too. :) "After first deciding on Birusu’s character design and background, I tried thinking up an original story, imagining it as though [the manga's] serialization had continued" this part was what had me sold :P

Thanks Chuquita for posting the run time. :) The fist thing I do in the morning now is check the website for any new information, I'm getting obsessed. :P I should thank Mike and Heath for keeping the site updated too, and Julian for his work and, like never sleeping. :P
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Marco Polo » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:43 am

What's more, he said "original story", not DBGT prequel or story acting as a bridge or anything :)

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:51 am

I know :P and he says he tried to imagine it as though the manga had continued. :)

Just read the interview with, Masako Nozawa, Shōko Nakagawa, and Kaori Matsumoto. It's really nice to see how much they love DB, obviously Nozawa is a given, but hearing the stories of Nakagawa, and Matsumoto on why they love Dragon Ball is really nice to read. :)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by MCDaveG » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:55 am

Staff of kanzenshuu really does superb stuff with translations, which I need to thank them so much for!
Only downfall is, that the interview with these minor actors is not much interesting for western audience. Also, I heard this stuff thousand times: ''Dragon Ball is awesome since my childhood, my dream came true, everything is so much awesome and fluffy'' and no relevant spoiler.

Guys, I actually had this idea and will be damn happy to see that! Flashback with Bills, who is approving of Planet Vegeta destruction by Freeza and Vegeta spots Uisu, as he is scounting the planet or something like that.

Well, with SSJ God, as I have fond memories of SSJ from childhood onward, this movie will be awesome little upgrade to the original story, ot it will ruin my childhood.
But really, I think that SSJ3 should've been limit, this AF mannerisms of onward SSJ forms is not to my liking. I hope that SSJG will be at least decent and not breaking the common sense of Z.
For God stuff, I have Saint Seiya allready ;)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:00 am

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:Judging from Toriyama's comments I definetly consider it canon. I put canon more with anything Toriyama approves of and has quite a big part in, I know he was told of SSJG and Birusu, but everybody gets Ideas from somewhere and can use help when struggling to think of something. He clearly thought it was a good Idea too. :) "After first deciding on Birusu’s character design and background, I tried thinking up an original story, imagining it as though [the manga's] serialization had continued" this part was what had me sold :P

Thanks Chuquita for posting the run time. :) The fist thing I do in the morning now is check the website for any new information, I'm getting obsessed. :P
I'm happy to have helped. :3
Eighty-five minutes has a good heft to it. I think it gives them a nice amount of time to play with.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:07 am

I really can't think of what the new SSJ form will look like at all. :P
Oh and Chuquita, what do you mean by both answers? Is the other question the strange Vegeta figure?

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:16 am

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I really can't think of what the new SSJ form will look like at all. :P
Oh and Chuquita, what do you mean by both answers? Is the other question the strange Vegeta figure?
The other one is "Is there more to Uisu's role in this film than meets the eye?". Like does he have an ulterior motive that Birusu may not know about.

I think most of my other ones have been answered very recently though (the soundtrack, Pilaf Gang, the 8th figure, for example).

My newest "Vegeta theory" is that he loses his Bingo Game and that somehow results in that figure.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:00 am

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Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I really can't think of what the new SSJ form will look like at all. :P
Oh and Chuquita, what do you mean by both answers? Is the other question the strange Vegeta figure?
The other one is "Is there more to Uisu's role in this film than meets the eye?". Like does he have an ulterior motive that Birusu may not know about.

I think most of my other ones have been answered very recently though (the soundtrack, Pilaf Gang, the 8th figure, for example).

My newest "Vegeta theory" is that he loses his Bingo Game and that somehow results in that figure.
Going by the soundtrack it's hard to tell. I really don't know what to make of him yet.

I would've thought Vegeta won the bingo, he looks like he's happy in an over the top way, or he's about to win, rubs his hands together, starts laughing, and then Birusu appears on earth and everybody stops the game. That explains "Vegeta enraged" on the tracklist. :P

The tracklist starting from, "Shenlong Comes Out" "The Legendary God" "Chosen Warriors" and "One More Saiyan" makes me think that they might ask Shenlong on how to defeat Birusu, and he tells them Goku will have to become the SSJG (The legendary god), the Saiyans then have to give Goku their energy (Chosen warriors), and then Goku goes to fight Birusu as he's about to destroy the Galaxy (line from the first trailer) because he thinks theirs nobody left to challenge him (Another Saiyan). I really hope that doesn't happen though. :lol:

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:56 am

DBZ Mick wrote:That would make it the longest movie then. Hope the pacing is good...
That's only 15 minutes more than DBZ Movie 8: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan.

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Post by TRL » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:56 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONUQwO3Gz4

Have you guys seen this? I think we see a glimpse of the prophetic fish here. :)

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Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:02 am

TRL wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONUQwO3Gz4

Have you guys seen this? I think we see a glimpse of the prophetic fish here. :)
Yes, a long time ago: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Oracle_Fish

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Post by TRL » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:04 am

Oh ok. My bad. I missed that then. :)

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by GoKu.SaMa » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:15 am

Chuquita wrote:I think I found the run time.
It says 85 minutes.
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■場所 ディファ有明(東京都江東区有明1-3-25)
■登壇者 野沢雅子、FLOW 他(予定)
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 15:00 開場
 16:00 開演(上映時間85分予定)
 18:00 終了予定
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http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ani ... 361450925/

That's pretty beastly, I like it; strung together, that's almost 5 DB episodes (I feel like I remember individual DB/Z eps being 18 or 19 minutes each?)
Are you sure ?

Because it says here 121 min

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2536562/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:00 am

I'll take a listing on an official Japanese site above an IMDB listing any day.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:02 am

GoKu.SaMa wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I think I found the run time.
It says 85 minutes.
「天下一試写会」
(イベント付き完成披露試写会)

■日時 3/6(土)
■場所 ディファ有明(東京都江東区有明1-3-25)
■登壇者 野沢雅子、FLOW 他(予定)
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 15:00 開場
 16:00 開演(上映時間85分予定)
 18:00 終了予定
Sources:
http://www.109mens.com/topics/dbz/
http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ani ... 361450925/

That's pretty beastly, I like it; strung together, that's almost 5 DB episodes (I feel like I remember individual DB/Z eps being 18 or 19 minutes each?)
Are you sure ?

Because it says here 121 min

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2536562/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
It's been a long time since imdb lists 121 min, but they have no source. 109mens will be screening the film, and will held an event with Masako Nozawa and FLOW for this, they're more reliable.

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:15 am

JeffJarrett wrote:It's been a long time since imdb lists 121 min, but they have no source. 109mens will be screening the film, and will held an event with Masako Nozawa and FLOW for this, they're more reliable.
Well, they're not directly screening the film; they're just running a promotion in conjunction with it. But yes, given that they have an itinerary for the event with a stated approximate runtime, that's much more legitimate than the length IMDB has listed since before much of the animation and audio production was underway, let alone completed.
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Post by GoKu.SaMa » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:13 am

VegettoEX wrote:I'll take a listing on an official Japanese site above an IMDB listing any day.
It would be better if the movie was longer ><

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Post by Sinestro » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:20 am

GoKu.SaMa wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:I'll take a listing on an official Japanese site above an IMDB listing any day.
It would be better if the movie was longer ><
One hour, twenty-five minutes is plenty long!

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Sanity's_Theif » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:55 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Sanity's_Theif wrote:God form? Well since this is canon material no one can say Goku isn't the strongest anymore
Not if you define "canon" as "only things the original author himself wrote during its original publication". :)
As I recall, there was a public statement that this is canon material, I think that's all that needs to be said on that subject.

Also, why the hell isn't funimation all over this, don't even tell me we're not getting a US release in theaters soon after the JP release

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:06 pm

Sanity's_Theif wrote:As I recall, there was a public statement that this is canon material, I think that's all that needs to be said on that subject.
I disagree, and quite vehemently so :). It's perfectly acceptable to think that only something the original author wrote himself during the original run of the series is part of a certain "canon". No particular fan has to suddenly up and agree that stuff written twenty years later can and should be accepted back into the original story as if it were always there, always intended to be there, and fits with the same tone, style, and aesthetic.

And on that note, to what extent does the original author's involvement have to be in order for it to be "canon"...? Toriyama may have designed some characters and helped with the story, but he certainly did not write the entire script (that was Yusuke Watanabe), nor drew every frame of the movie (something supervised by Tadayoshi Yamamuro). What if I only want something the author himself had full and complete control over? What if I don't care what the larger rights-holders have to say in their little marketing schpiels about what is or is not part of an "official history"...?

Thing is, I'm mostly just arguing it for the sake of arguing it -- I don't actually care one way or the other even the slightest bit. I don't care what you think is canon, what other fans think is canon, and so on and so forth. None of that matters to me. From my perspective, it's all just stories for the sake of telling stories, and if they happen to line up, well isn't that just neat!
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