Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[JulieYBM]

Since Episode #27 of Disk Wars: Avengers Tate Naoki has performed the role of character designer alongside Yamamuro Tadayoshi. He's also done recent animation supervision, although I suppose it's not impossible for him to have worked on the series one cut a day or something.

[Chuquita]

At least that's a bit of hope.

It's really so frustrating; to see them sticking these animators to the TV series that are airing and not spending anyone on the movie.
And I know it's not all the movies, because I saw the five minutes of preview for the HaCha movie a while back and that looked amazing; a league above HaCha's TV episodes. It's so frustrating. I like Precure, and that it (mostly) gets good animation, but I want to see Fukkatsu no F get good animation too.

[Zelvin]

At least that's a bit of hope.

It's really so frustrating; to see them sticking these animators to the TV series that are airing and not spending anyone on the movie.
And I know it's not all the movies, because I saw the five minutes of preview for the HaCha movie a while back and that looked amazing; a league above HaCha's TV episodes. It's so frustrating. I like Precure, and that it (mostly) gets good animation, but I want to see Fukkatsu no F get good animation too.

For me, it's like with JRPG's. The animation/graphics always come 2nd to the Story. If the story is good, the visuals don't matter so much. If the story is good and the animation is well done, that's a bonus. If the story is utter shite but the animation is pretty, that's just like making a turd shiny and expecting people to love it. If they're both utter crap, then their studio would be burned down by the ensuing fan reaction.

[Chuquita]

Oh I definitely care about the story more (I'm super-grateful it's both got Toriyama on it and that the notoriously hard-to-please Torishima endorsed it.) it's just when I see all these other franchises getting all this cool action animation, I can't help but feel kinda jealous. DB and Z had so many well-animated battles; I'd love to see that sort of thing in the new stuff too.

Mostly though, atm I'm focused on finding out as much of the plot as they'll let out; it's why I'm really anxious for a copy of Cinecom Walker to find its way to Julian so he can translate it and we all learn some more about what exactly is going on in the movie other than "Freeza's wished back by these two guys and he's got 1000 soldiers unleashed on Earth". If it impressed Torishima there's got to be something more to it than that.

[JulieYBM]

For me, it's like with JRPG's. The animation/graphics always come 2nd to the Story. If the story is good, the visuals don't matter so much. If the story is good and the animation is well done, that's a bonus. If the story is utter shite but the animation is pretty, that's just like making a turd shiny and expecting people to love it. If they're both utter crap, then their studio would be burned down by the ensuing fan reaction.

"Show, don't tell." The manner in which visuals are used is just as important as the script, music, and voice actors. This is why shows like Kyousougiga, Naruto, Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso and No Game No Life are so good, they place thought and effort into the manner in which the story is shown.

[miguelnuva1]

Anyone who wants Vegeta to kill Frieza better root for Gogeta winning. Other wise Goku is going to find a way again.

[Chuquita]

Waii, there's a line near the end of that summary that says "みだすドラマにも"/"disturbing drama". *_* (If I'm reading it correctly.)
Can't just sit here and squint trying to read super-tiny kanji. *Attempts patience, as a full translation shall appear from Kanzenshuu in due time.*

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

That's pretty disappointing that Naotoshi Shida isn't going to work on Fukkastu no F. What a let down. I wonder how in the world Tadayoshi Yamamuro is going to pull it off for the film. It would take him a lot of good key animators who can do their own story board to make the film look good. Now it's one less good key animator. I hope Oonoshi Ryou and Naoki Tate will be involved.

[JulieYBM]

Oonishi Ryou is currently the character designer for Majin Bone and has even done a fair amount of key animation and animation supervision for the series, so I doubt he has had time to work on Fukkatsu no F. The only other name I can think of that might be available is Hayashi Yuuki, although who knows if his sparse putout in the last few months hasn't been due to working on something else.

[sailorspazz]

Mostly though, atm I'm focused on finding out as much of the plot as they'll let out; it's why I'm really anxious for a copy of Cinecom Walker to find its way to Julian so he can translate it and we all learn some more about what exactly is going on in the movie other than "Freeza's wished back by these two guys and he's got 1000 soldiers unleashed on Earth". If it impressed Torishima there's got to be something more to it than that.

I've tried taking a look at the blurry photo, and while a lot of the kanji is too small to make out, it doesn't seem like the article on the bottom is giving us much new information. The first part basically just talks about Dragon Ball's popularity and Toriyama's involvement with the movies, the first half of the second page gives plot details we already know (Freeza being revived by Sorbet and Tagoma, being powered up, etc.), and the third paragraph looks to be even less specific stuff (things about the "battle action" and "scale", because reading the katakana is easier than deciphering tiny kanji at this point ) So maybe there's new information hiding in some of the even less clear portions of the page (like, I really wanna know what the bubble next to Vegeta says!), but until we get a clear copy of the whole thing, there's not much to see here.

Excuse me, I need to go rest my eyes now

[Chuquita]

Mostly though, atm I'm focused on finding out as much of the plot as they'll let out; it's why I'm really anxious for a copy of Cinecom Walker to find its way to Julian so he can translate it and we all learn some more about what exactly is going on in the movie other than "Freeza's wished back by these two guys and he's got 1000 soldiers unleashed on Earth". If it impressed Torishima there's got to be something more to it than that.

I've tried taking a look at the blurry photo, and while a lot of the kanji is too small to make out, it doesn't seem like the article on the bottom is giving us much new information. The first part basically just talks about Dragon Ball's popularity and Toriyama's involvement with the movies, the first half of the second page gives plot details we already know (Freeza being revived by Sorbet and Tagoma, being powered up, etc.), and the third paragraph looks to be even less specific stuff (things about the "battle action" and "scale", because reading the katakana is easier than deciphering tiny kanji at this point ) So maybe there's new information hiding in some of the even less clear portions of the page (like, I really wanna know what the bubble next to Vegeta says!), but until we get a clear copy of the whole thing, there's not much to see here.

Excuse me, I need to go rest my eyes now

I do appreciate it. I still want to hope. Being in the dark for plot info for so long, and being incredibly let down by the misleading way VJump felt this month; I want to hope those kanji actually tell us something new and interesting related to the movie's plot. I want this to be a real lead this time. T_T

BOG and its leaked and vaguely-spoilery WCF figures was way kinder in terms of letting info slip than F has been.

*Also hopes this magazine isn't too difficult for Julian to acquire.*

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

*Also hopes this magazine isn't too difficult for Julian to acquire.*

There's a larger and clearer version of the article available here if he's having trouble tracking the magazine down. Even if he still wants to buy it, at the very least it should be helpful for finding out if there's anything that makes it worth translating.
http://ameblo.jp/saiyajin777/entry-1197 ... 1421738787

[Chuquita]

*Also hopes this magazine isn't too difficult for Julian to acquire.*

There's a larger and clearer version of the article available here if he's having trouble tracking the magazine down. Even if he still wants to buy it, at the very least it should be helpful for finding out if there's anything that makes it worth translating.
http://ameblo.jp/saiyajin777/entry-1197 ... 1421738787

Thank you. I notice regular super saiyajin pops up in both Gokû and Vegeta's blurbs. Maybe we get ssj1 after all.
My time is limited again, so I won't be able to really look at it till later today. T_T

[Regarder]

*Also hopes this magazine isn't too difficult for Julian to acquire.*

There's a larger and clearer version of the article available here if he's having trouble tracking the magazine down. Even if he still wants to buy it, at the very least it should be helpful for finding out if there's anything that makes it worth translating.
http://ameblo.jp/saiyajin777/entry-1197 ... 1421738787

Thank you. I notice regular super saiyajin pops up in both Gokû and Vegeta's blurbs. Maybe we get ssj1 after all.
My time is limited again, so I won't be able to really look at it till later today. T_T

That dialogue we got before only had Goku say he doesn't need SS against Freeza now (which was transmitted as SS not being used in the movie), but presumably Goku gets beaten up by Freeza when he tries without SS (hence the beaten up Goku pic), and then later in the movie he comes back with SS and isn't underestimating Freeza anymore (possibly the power up of Goku from the first teaser is really in the movie). At some point in there, Vegeta uses SS and fights Freeza.

*crazy speculation time*

My total guesstimate prediction is that Vegeta fights Freeza while Goku is down, but he can't quite beat him, and starts to lose, and then Goku is the one to defeat Freeza.

It could be Vegeta that beats him, but I don't think so. If we'd have just seen a pic showing that Goku gets beat up at some point, then one typical narrative following that is to have Vegeta finally do what Goku couldn't.

However, the combination of a base Goku fighting Freeza, losing, and yet Goku still using SS at some point, implies that Goku has two fights against Freeza. It would be an unusual structure for the movie if Goku has two fights and loses BOTH of them so Vegeta can win. More than likely, the Vegeta fight is in the middle, and then Goku comes back strong and wins it as a SS (A).

The other options to befuddle this are B: the film has Goku lose two fights against Freeza, or C: Goku said he wouldn't use base in the first fight, but changed his mind, and still got beaten as a SS. B seems unlikely to me... it's just a gut feeling, but from a storytelling point of view, I can't see the point in that. C is again, possible, but I wonder what the point would be if you want to show Goku failing by underestimating Freeza.

Anything could happen! Plus, Beerus and Whis are wild cards.

[Low Tone G]

That dialogue we got before only had Goku say he doesn't need SS against Freeza now (which was transmitted as SS not being used in the movie), but presumably Goku gets beaten up by Freeza when he tries without SS (hence the beaten up Goku pic), and then later in the movie he comes back with SS and isn't underestimating Freeza anymore.

If Goku will do it(will go SSJ) he wouldn't really do any better, would he? It was stated that the Super Saiyan transformation doesn't really give singificant boost is the case of Goku if he has God power. Maybe he will still go SSJ in a desperate moment, just like he did against Beerus, but ultimately that won't give him better chances.

[Regarder]

That dialogue we got before only had Goku say he doesn't need SS against Freeza now (which was transmitted as SS not being used in the movie), but presumably Goku gets beaten up by Freeza when he tries without SS (hence the beaten up Goku pic), and then later in the movie he comes back with SS and isn't underestimating Freeza anymore.

If Goku will do it(will go SSJ) he wouldn't really do any better, would he? It was stated that the Super Saiyan transformation doesn't really give singificant boost is the case of Goku if he has God power. Maybe he will still go SSJ in a desperate moment, just like he did against Beerus, but ultimately that won't give him better chances.

I don't think we fully know yet. SS didn't give him too much of a boost in BoG specifically, but Toriyama has been talking about SS like it's still relevant, so I imagine that could change and getting stronger means powering up his SS. It's just a guess, but I can't think of any reason why Toriyama would say that Goku will focus on training his normal state AND SS, if SS isn't able to tip a fight in his favor anymore.

[sintzu]

My total guesstimate prediction is that Vegeta fights Freeza while Goku is down, but he can't quite beat him, and starts to lose, and then Goku is the one to defeat Freeza.

I would agree if this wasn't Frieza but since it is I don't think Goku will beat him cause he already did and I doubt Toriyama will go with that again.

I have 2 reasons to why I think Vegeta will be the one who finally puts him down :

1- Before the movie was announced Toriyama said he'd like to have Vegeta be the hero in it but he hadn't decided on anything yet.

A lot of fans took it as him just throwing around ideas and that he probably wouldn't do it and for good reasons one being that it would be hard to pull off.

2- Frieza is the main villain.

Then this was announced and what Toriyama said about Vegeta made sense cause if he was going to do it then there's no better villain to go with then Frieza cause he was already defeated by Goku which gives Toriyama a good reason to change things up and with Frieza being Vegeta's arch enemy it makes sense to put him in the spot light without it feeling rushed like what some thought it might be when Toriyama announced it but now it serves the story and won't look out of place.

[TheRed259]

From FB.

[sintzu]

From FB.

That pic gives me the vibe that he'll have some epic moments in this movie.

Is that from a new poster ?

[FortuneSSJ]

That shot remembers the one in Fusion Reborn before he beats Freeza.
I sense some badass levels there.

My total guesstimate prediction is that Vegeta fights Freeza while Goku is down, but he can't quite beat him, and starts to lose, and then Goku is the one to defeat Freeza.

If this was a Toei movie, pretty sure it would have 98% chance of that happening.
But since Toriyama is involved, things aren't easily predictable anymore.