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Post by Saiga » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:36 pm

Since Gohan doesn't have Super Saiyan as an Ultimate there, it's either his base form or a story mode thing. It's still possible that story mode will lock you into some transformations to make it more accurate, but I'd say the evidence points to Gohan not having his base form.

And nothing of value is lost. Perma SS is a way better option than a form which literally never fought, and only appeared in the conclusion to an arc.

It actually gives me an idea - I'll see if I can make my Saiyan's base form resemble a Super Saiyan and equip Super Saiyan 2, so at least I'm not stuck in base most of the time. I probably won't be able to change the eye colour to green, though.
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Post by Naruto6583 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:50 pm

Saiga wrote:Since Gohan doesn't have Super Saiyan as an Ultimate there, it's either his base form or a story mode thing. It's still possible that story mode will lock you into some transformations to make it more accurate, but I'd say the evidence points to Gohan not having his base form.

And nothing of value is lost. Perma SS is a way better option than a form which literally never fought, and only appeared in the conclusion to an arc.

It actually gives me an idea - I'll see if I can make my Saiyan's base form resemble a Super Saiyan and equip Super Saiyan 2, so at least I'm not stuck in base most of the time. I probably won't be able to change the eye colour to green, though.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:54 pm

If it turns out 'Teen' Gohan lacks his base form as has been suggested, I'd be a little disappointed as well, but I guess it's not too big of a deal. I've just never been a fan of forms that clearly existed not being playable. Heck, it was one of the things that irked me in UB22 the short time that was the only game I had to play - everyone was automatically in their SS or beyond forms.
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Post by GogesusSSG » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:16 pm

The problem with Gohan having super saiyan as his base form, means that the transformation mechanic they're putting in place may as well not even be there in the first place. Base Vegetto also never fought in the manga, yet he is in the game.

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:23 pm

GoldLiger wrote:If this was Dimps first game then you'd be right. But this isn't Dimps' first game. The FIRST game that Dimps made had base Teen Gohan in it. Making a character other than SSG or SS4 a permanent base form is a sign of laziness on the developers.
They also left out Freeza's inbetween forms, and every form before Perfect Cell. Why? They have nothing to do with the story Xenoverse has. Cell's and Freeza's forms are a pretty drastic loss I'd say, but Gohan's base form? That probably you and 5 other people would use? Not a big deal.

That isn't laziness, that's cutting something so that they can put time and effort into things that matter. Real talk.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:27 pm

Sure hope Base Goten is there :(

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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:29 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Sure hope Base Goten is there :(
He is, unless he is just put in for the cutscenes.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:41 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:Sure hope Base Goten is there :(
He is, unless he is just put in for the cutscenes.
We've seen him and kid Trunks in battle, I think?
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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:42 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:Sure hope Base Goten is there :(
He is, unless he is just put in for the cutscenes.
We've seen him and kid Trunks in battle, I think?
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Post by Zelvin » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:49 pm

I think Freeza and Cell still have their other forms, just there is no transforming during Battles with them. I'm uncertain in the story mode, because I don't know if our Protagonist appears during any of Freeza's transformed stages or if we just show up after he's already in his final form. But really I'm none too worried. We're little more than a month away from launch and I can forgive quite a bit so long as the story is engaging and the game play is enjoyable.

I like JRPG's. I think they're a lot of fun, so long as the story is really engaging. But so long as the game play is still somewhat enjoyable and worthwhile. I enjoyed Xenosaga's story, but not the game play. Because Xenosaga wasn't a game, it was an Interactive Movie. Xenoverse promises to blend the game play and story really well.

And while I know some people are disappointed about the non-permanent destruction physics, I have no problem with that. Because really, how many times can you watch someone get knocked through a mountain before it gets boring? I mean, after Budokai 3 it was kinda boring because it was never anything really new, and it just dragged out the fights whenever you did manage to knock someone into another stage. Sure it was fun at first, but then it's like "knights of the round" in Final Fantasy 7; it just takes feakin forever for it to be over and you'd rather just skip the whole sequence after watching it the one time.

So no beam struggles are a bit of a bummer, but I can understand the reason for removing them in favor of other game elements.
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:58 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:Sure hope Base Goten is there :(
He is, unless he is just put in for the cutscenes.
Him and Kid Trunks were seen fighting in an old scan, and it showed Kid Trunks transforming into a SSJ... if I remember correctly. Not that they are a huge loss anyway if they weren't...
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Post by EA575 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:05 am

If base Teen Gohan isn't in then I'm totally fine with that. It's more in-line with the main series than adding it for completion's sake because, as others have mentioned, he doesn't do anything, and the only time you do see base Teen Gohan in the Cell arc is at the very end. I'm still not completely sure how transformations work and how many levels one can go in one match, but if it's limited to only 1 level then the removal of base Teen Gohan seems to work for this system. There won't be a need to add a separate slot for SSJ2 Gohan either.
Moreover, have you seen how powerful SSJ's are in this game?! With unlimited ki, faster dashing, and a significant damage boost--I'm sure you guys have seen the recent video with the Japanese niconico radio hosts playing XV and using Super Vegeta's Final Flash--THANK GOD it's only for a limited period of time. I would hate to play online where I see nothing but people going SSJ at the very start and spamming supers and Ultimate's all day.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:07 am

GogesusSSG wrote:The problem with Gohan having super saiyan as his base form, means that the transformation mechanic they're putting in place may as well not even be there in the first place. Base Vegetto also never fought in the manga, yet he is in the game.
But he fought in the anime.
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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:08 am

Forgot all about this.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:19 am

Well there you go. Base and SSJ for the brats
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:32 am

There needs to be less complaining about issues that are not confirmed to even be true like base gohan and Goten not being the game and as you can see base Goten is even in the picture above.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:28 am

I feel like some characters and forms are missing because the new story isn't going to cover every single point of the original story just more of the Key moments and battles. So there might be some skipping going on.
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Post by Sigh-Ya-Jin » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:33 am

Yes teen gohan is in the game, I've seen him in the character selection screen.
As for freeza I think it's just his base final and 100% form. What I would like from them is different SSJ hairstyles like DBO .
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Post by Careless Saiyajin » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:44 am

Sigh-Ya-Jin wrote:Yes teen gohan is in the game, I've seen him in the character selection screen.
As for freeza I think it's just his base final and 100% form. What I would like from them is different SSJ hairstyles like DBO .
People are complaining about base form teen gohan not teen gohan in general but specifically base form. Personally it might be in the game but nobody can confirm its not so we should wait before we complain so much.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:49 am

goku the krump dancer wrote:I feel like some characters and forms are missing because the new story isn't going to cover every single point of the original story just more of the Key moments and battles. So there might be some skipping going on.
I already assumed there would be some skipping, just based on the idea that it's using DBO as source material inspiration. My minor issue here is that even if they are skipping around and avoiding some of the characters/forms during the story, why are they not at least including the skipped stuff (at least some of it, like Freeza's other forms) on the overall roster? They've already stated that GT characters are in but don't have relevance to the story, so we know being part of the story isn't a requirement for inclusion to be playable.
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