Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

I'd really like to see Naoki Miyahara take a little bit more spotlight for this film project. I have always liked his style. His style is somewhat distinct from Yamamuro's, but he has drawn facial expressions really well. He also made for some really colorful episodes. I don't know if he's still working for Toei Animation or if he still animates on-going projects, but I hope Yamamuro will hire him for this movie.

I guess Minoru Maeda is a no-no? He hasn't key animated Dragon Ball Z since he left the series just before the Cell arc ended. He would make for a little bit different look for the film just to keep animation fresh. He has experience in Character Design as well as Animation Supervisor. He was excellent in drawing the details, even minor ones.

I guess at this point hiring talents who has experience in the original series is up in air. It seems most of them are pretty busy as JulieYBM has indicated. If that's the case, then I hope Yamamuro will be able to hire high quality animators from other company to work on the film.

[MagicBox]

By the way, I absolutely love the humorous direction Vegeta's taken since the beginning of the Buu arc. With the exception of a few standout scenes in the Freeza arc, I always found Vegeta to be a painfully boring and one-dimensional character. The direction he took during the Artificial Humans arc was particularly insufferable. His role as the reluctant straight man in the Boo arc onward has not only stayed true to his personality, but made him much more entertaining and sympathetic.

I never got how fans can be annoyed by Vegeta's "Bingo" dance number. Yes, it's completely out-of-character for him. That's the joke. He's not singing because he wants to; he hates being reduced to that. The character is in no way "butchered." I hope he's thrust into more comedic situations in this new movie.

[JulieYBM]

I'd really like to see Naoki Miyahara take a little bit more spotlight for this film project. I have always liked his style. His style is somewhat distinct from Yamamuro's, but he has drawn facial expressions really well. He also made for some really colorful episodes. I don't know if he's still working for Toei Animation or if he still animates on-going projects, but I hope Yamamuro will hire him for this movie.

I guess Minoru Maeda is a no-no? He hasn't key animated Dragon Ball Z since he left the series just before the Cell arc ended. He would make for a little bit different look for the film just to keep Animation fresh. He has experience in Character Design as well as Animation Supervisor.

I guess at this point hiring talents who has experience in the original series is up in air. It seems most of them are pretty busy as Jacob's has indicated. If that's the case, then I hope Yamamuro will be able to hire high quality animators from other company to work on the film.

Maeda Minoru and Miyahara Naoki haven't done anything in forever. Miyahara was the CG supervisor on Battle of Gods, so he's moved on from hand-drawn animation.

If Majin Bone ends in September Oonishi Ryou could work on this movie if he wasn't strong-armed into working on anything else. Even doing as much as he did on the 2013 Toriko movie would be nice. Should Yamamuro be able to bring on a talented freelancer or employee from Toei Animation and get them to spend an entire month working on the movie that is still 30-120 cuts of top quality animation.

[Retan]

Minoru Maeda is my favorite Dragonball/Z Animator ever!!

[JulieYBM]

Maeda Minoru only ever did key animation for Dragon Ball Episodes #22 and #29. Otherwise the key animation people praise so much about the episodes he performed the role of animation supervisor for were the works of the key animators.

[Retan]

So would artist be a better term?

[Herms]

What's Shen Long saying? Sounds familiar so I assume it's just the typical 'I'll grant you x wish' spiel we're used to.

That is correct. He says he'll grant "only one" wish, which is inconsistent with how Dende's dragon balls work in the Cell/Boo arcs, but whatever.

[Gyt Kaliba]

What's Shen Long saying? Sounds familiar so I assume it's just the typical 'I'll grant you x wish' spiel we're used to.

That is correct. He says he'll grant "only one" wish, which is inconsistent with how Dende's dragon balls work in the Cell/Boo arcs, but whatever.

Well, there's always the possibility that there's a reason for it. Or...hmm...is it possible that's just stock audio they pulled from something, kind of like what the first dub trailer of Battle of Gods did for Schemmel's Goku? Because I can't help but notice there's no audio to Goku in this teaser.

And on the discussion of humor with Dragon Ball, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't get why so many people seem to dislike the humor in the series, when...that's...very much the core of the franchise. Even at it's most intense moment, like say, the Freeza arc, you're still watching a bunch of people named after foods fighting against a refridgerator-name-themed guy, all on a planet populated by slug people named after mollusks and musical instruments. Oh, and there's a chick named for underwear in the background somewhere. The humor is always there, regardless of if it's at the fore-front or not.

Also, Pilaf is awesome. The way he was handled in this movie could have used a little more fine tuning, I'll admit, but for the most part I enjoyed seeing him again.

[Bullza]

In fact, I wouldn't even mind if it was nothing but that. We got a good deal of character interaction and development, more so than any other film in the franchise to date arguably. I'll take that over more fights any day.

You probably wouldn't mind that and there's nothing wrong with character interaction and development but taking someone like Vegeta and turning him into a joke character who looks in pots for people and sings and dances is what people don't want, same as bringing back forgettable comic relief characters from early Dragon Ball and then making them even worse by making them a kid.

What next? They're going to bring back Boss Rabbit to take up a good portion of the movie? Maybe have Vegeta do ballet?

[VegettoEX]

taking someone like Vegeta and turning him into a joke character who looks in pots for people and sings and dances

That is not what I took away from that scene at all. I'd argue that Vegeta in Battle of Gods is amazingly in-character that people who see him as out-of-character don't actually know Vegeta that well.

You may as well claim that him hugging and saying goodbye to his son before blowing himself up is out-of-character, but I don't see anyone doing that.

Vegeta is not the same person he was when he first showed up on Earth, and I would love to see more from Toriyama on this.

[Adamant]

They're going to bring back Boss Rabbit to take up a good portion of the movie?

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

[jjgp1112]

They're going to bring back Boss Rabbit to take up a good portion of the movie?

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

Vegeta turning into a carrot has to happen now.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

Vegeta turning into a carrot has to happen now.

As long as it doesn't turn into another amazing fighting Vegetto candy moment.

[Adamant]

Vegeta turning into a carrot has to happen now.

As long as it doesn't turn into another amazing fighting Vegetto candy moment.

The world's strongest coffee candy VS the world's most prideful carrot.

I think we got a plot here.

[Lozjudai]

They're going to bring back Boss Rabbit to take up a good portion of the movie?

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

Vegeta turning into a carrot has to happen now.

Well he would finally know how it feels to be a kakarot

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

taking someone like Vegeta and turning him into a joke character who looks in pots for people and sings and dances

That is not what I took away from that scene at all. I'd argue that Vegeta in Battle of Gods is amazingly in-character that people who see him as out-of-character don't actually know Vegeta that well.

You may as well claim that him hugging and saying goodbye to his son before blowing himself up is out-of-character, but I don't see anyone doing that.

Vegeta is not the same person he was when he first showed up on Earth, and I would love to see more from Toriyama on this.

Him doing the Bing-dance seemed like a stretch for his character though. Hes not completely repelled to do silly things if he had to by that point, but as the means of the respect for his character represented through it is what disturbs people. Such behaviour seemed more plausable for Gohan, Goku, Krillin, Yamcha or even Piccolo who are more flexable. Such an extreme for Vegeta made it look like Vegeta was being yet again toyed with by the writers. Him hugging his son because he was trying to realize himself as a father is noble and acceptable. Him making a joke of himself willingly not coached by Goku seemed too farfetched and if not a bit insulting to people I guess; I still cant stomach it.

[sintzu]

Does anyone know when we might get something new ?

[Retan]

I agree with VeggetoEX, many of you don't seem to know Vegeta that well. Even at his most evil Vegeta was still quite the joker-jerk that's why I I fell in love with his character in the first place. He set down his pride, and just got it over with that's all. Gohan, Krillin and Yamucha weren't in that position, where they were trying to protect everyone as they didn't even know what Birus was capable of. Piccolo singing was much more out of character then a singing and dancing Vegeta, because 1. It should hurt Piccolo's ears to listen to himself on a microphone. 2. Piccolo was doing it for his own enjoyment. Vegeta wasn't enjoying it, but I could definitely him doing it if he thought it was worth doing to protect his family. Beside Kuririn thought he was drunk.

[Ajay]

Vegeta isn't an idiot. He might love to fight and let his pride get in the way sometimes but he's not stupid. Kaio-sama specifically tells him that even Goku lost to this guy. He explains the gravitas of the situation and Vegeta, a much wiser and calmer character at this point, opts to try and manage the situation to the best of his ability.

He loves his wife and his son and, as much as he may have been a dick throughout the series, he's evolved enough to care about his fellow Z fighters. Battle of Gods only serves to emphasise that point. This isn't the ruthless Saiyan we once knew. This is a man who truly cares for his family and would do anything to prevent their demise - even at the cost of his pride.

Vegeta only hops up on stage as a total knee jerk reaction to when he sees the inevitable approaching. He knows he can't win, he knows that if he angers this terrifying God of Destruction then the entire planet is at stake. What does he do? He sacrifices his pride to try and diffuse the situation since that's the only option he has left. It's not a surface level case of 'Oh, Vegeta is a goofy character now!'. It's meant to be funny, sure, but it's also a perfect reminder of the side of Vegeta that has surfaced over the years. It's deliberately out of character but only in a surface-level sense. Kuririn's reaction is enough to show that these writers fully understand that point.

It's not like his character was changed. Heck, when all hope is lost, he's straight back into the type of person we're used to. But again, we're reminded of that progression with the Bulma motive thrown in there. It's all a very deliberate construction. It's not like the writers forgot what the character was like.

I don't see it as a stretch at all. It just seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of the progression of Vegeta's character from fan's who think otherwise. And that's pretty much all I have to say on the matter. Nothing irks me more than in-universe chatter.

[Chuquita]

Re: New info

Since the movie's got an extra two months of production length than last time, it'll probably have its news updates stretched out further apart (but I don't know for sure).

Weekly Jump or VJump are the best bets for updates. I was actually expecting info to pop up today being it's Wednesday, but I guess not this week.