The International Version of the Buu-Kai Arc

[Valerius Dover]

Oh, can't believe I didn't see Cold Skin's post above. Silly me. I'm having an off day, though.

The numbers still don't really add up. Even with those 7, there are still about 13 episodes worth of content that will be missing in the cut version.

[Cold Skin]

^ It's possible that if the Japanese broadcast suddenly switches again to a few faster episodes for a specific part of the plot, France will air the corresponding episodes back to back to keep up. Then Japan will inevitably go back to airing the international episodes soon after, again making a perfect 1:1 ratio between the two.

But it's also possible (given that decision to simulcast) that Japan has given up any plan to create their own edits and will air the remaining episodes as they are in the international versions, even if it means the series will go beyond the schedule originally intended before being replaced. Not having to shorten the plot means less work for them, I'm sure they're fine with it. That would make the Japanese version 62 episodes, which seems a lot, but hey...

Much like France airs many episodes at once to be on time for the planned schedule, it's possible that Japan will do the same: not triming down episodes anymore, and simply packing multiple episodes at a different schedule if they have to do so to finish the series' run in time, probably calling it a special event.

[DBZ_Lee]

Thanks for the info TheRed259, very interesting indeed. I agree with Cold Skin, it's very possible that Toei & Fuji have come to an agreement that Kai will air for 62 episodes - we may even see One Piece still take it's breaks, with Kai showing double episodes for the entire Strong 9 hour.

It would make sense, as it's odd they haven't cut some of the filler material from the last few episodes, which easily would have gone in the early part of the series.
I'm glad if that's the case, as it makes this whole Buu Saga Kai situation easier to follow from now on.

Thinking back, Nozawa mentioned the count being halved, and would air for an entire year, this was then removed almost immediately after being published - and Toei executives themselves didn't know what the final Japanese episode count would be.
It could be they originally planned to reduce it by a further 20, but decided against it for whatever reason.

All we can do is wait and see how it plays out.

[JulieYBM]

Fuji Television is paying for the Japanese masters to be created, given they are credited in the Japanese airings but not the credits for the 69 episodes of The Final Chapters. I suspect Fuji TV does not want their episodes airing elsewhere before them, given they are now footing a bill to promote the series.

How many episodes of The Final Chapters has the Fuji TV cut shaved off? If the 2015 film is coming to theaters in May I have to wonder if Fuji TV wants Dragon Ball Kai to air long enough to be on the air during the spring 2015 season, which is April, May, and June.

[DBZ_Lee]

How many episodes of The Final Chapters has the Fuji TV cut shaved off? If the 2015 film is coming to theaters in May I have to wonder if Fuji TV wants Dragon Ball Kai to air long enough to be on the air during the spring 2015 season, which is April, May, and June.

The Fuji TV cut has shaved 7 episodes off of the final count. You've said what I was thinking late last night, that there is a very good chance this could also be a strategic move by both parties to have Kai air during the new movies theatrical run.

[sangofe]

How many episodes of The Final Chapters has the Fuji TV cut shaved off? If the 2015 film is coming to theaters in May I have to wonder if Fuji TV wants Dragon Ball Kai to air long enough to be on the air during the spring 2015 season, which is April, May, and June.

The Fuji TV cut has shaved 7 episodes off of the final count. You've said what I was thinking late last night, that there is a very good chance this could also be a strategic move by both parties to have Kai air during the new movies theatrical run.

I dunno about the both parties comment as France hasn't even got Battle of Gods yet(and no word of it either!).

[DBZ_Lee]

Sorry for the confusion, I meant both parties being Toei & Fuji TV.

[JulieYBM]

How many episodes of The Final Chapters has the Fuji TV cut shaved off? If the 2015 film is coming to theaters in May I have to wonder if Fuji TV wants Dragon Ball Kai to air long enough to be on the air during the spring 2015 season, which is April, May, and June.

The Fuji TV cut has shaved 7 episodes off of the final count. You've said what I was thinking late last night, that there is a very good chance this could also be a strategic move by both parties to have Kai air during the new movies theatrical run.

Aha, sixty-two episodes, with potentially three weeks of breaks would put us through the Spring 2015 cour. Maybe one of those three weeks off will actually be a new crossover special, I can hope.

[ShinGaijin]

Here's the recap from episode 99, in its international version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9loUD8V5PFs
So, there's a "Sumitomo version" of the iconic "Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2" scene now... Hey, not bad IMO.

[Valerius Dover]

^Nice recap, actually. It seems that it covered a lot more Cell than Frieza, though.

I wouldn't really count flashbacks as being an official version of the scene for comparisons, though. Music-wise, aren't there 6 versions already?

-Insert Song (Japanese Z)
-Faulconer (American Z)
-Anitunes (Canadian Z)
-Silence (American Z with JP Score)
-Yamamoto (Original Kai Release)
-Kikuchi (Current Kai Release)

[sintzu]

Here's the recap from episode 99, in its international version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUXFpks5m6A

They could have done so much more with that 5 minutes.

[ShinGaijin]

^Nice recap, actually. It seems that it covered a lot more Cell than Frieza, though.

I wouldn't really count flashbacks as being an official version of the scene for comparisons, though. Music-wise, aren't there 6 versions already?

-Insert Song (Japanese Z)
-Faulconer (American Z)
-Anitunes (Canadian Z)
-Silence (American Z with JP Score)
-Yamamoto (Original Kai Release)
-Kikuchi (Current Kai Release)

I would say...8.There's another Kikuchi's version...it was aired just after the Yamamoto scandal, but have been quickly replaced, probably because of its mono sound.(Sankyou Kei17!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx0h1E8gvb4
And..there..is..that thing...from Germany... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL4v_Zndh6U

[TheRed259]

Was all this necessary? Japanese version's recap was a lot better!
And I also hate how they just put 5 soundtracks for a recap.

[dbboxkaifan]

Here's the recap from episode 99, in its international version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9loUD8V5PFs
So, there's a "Sumitomo version" of the iconic "Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2" scene now... Hey, not bad IMO.

Who the hell was in charge of the music placement? Nagasaki?

Really disappointed with the incompetence of how the handle the music & silence in Kai:TC.

[Cold Skin]

The muticast has started today, as I've seen the French version episode of yesterday's Japanese episode.
From today on, Japanese episodes aired on Sunday are aired the next day in French. There is now only one episode a week (the simulcast one) and other daily airings have been suspended to keep strictly to the pace of the Japanese broadcast.

The Kanzenshuu staff can have a link to the full episode to be able to check the reality of the multicast with their own eyes if needed, seeing last Sunday's episode all in French (which, as usual, is the exact replica of the Japanese one except for the voices, writings, opening, ending, recap music and NEP music).

By the way, right now where we're at on the Japanese broadcast, the international version still hasn't changed Never Give Up!!! yet.
It is pretty safe to bet that they'll change the ending to Let It Burn only once Boo has changed shaped, effectively making the change mandatory (since the current ending shows fat Boo, Babidi and Dabra as the opponents, they can keep it until the last of them has disappeared, meaning until fat Boo no longer appears).
But we don't know for sure, they might change it once Boo can be considered as being good, or simply when they reach a certain number in the episode count.

[DBZ_Lee]

Here's the recap from episode 99, in its international version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9loUD8V5PFs
So, there's a "Sumitomo version" of the iconic "Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2" scene now... Hey, not bad IMO.

Thanks ShinGaijin!

I really like what they've done here, much better than the Japanese one. If they would have continued on with the Buu Arc in 2011, it would have been fine leaving it as they did for the Japanese market, but because it has been nearly 3 years, they were right to add a 5 minute recap as a reminder (in my opinion).

[kei17]

Here's the recap from episode 99, in its international version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9loUD8V5PFs
So, there's a "Sumitomo version" of the iconic "Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2" scene now... Hey, not bad IMO.

Uh, why is the first track such comical even though the rest sounds serious? A five minute recap is obviously too much, but they could have at least done it somewhat better with that length. It feels just dull.

Who the hell was in charge of the music placement? Nagasaki?

It's Satoshi Motoyama, one of those who were hastily hired for the Kikuchi version of Kai.

[TheKingOfKamehamehas]

The first track sounds more bad ass than comical and I think the recap placement was okay because they used all the best music of the show so far. I wished for more silence though.

[kei17]

The first track sounds more bad ass than comical

Does it? To me, it sounds like something you'd hear in Mr. Satan's scenes.

[Black_Liger]

Here's the recap from episode 99, in its international version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9loUD8V5PFs
So, there's a "Sumitomo version" of the iconic "Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2" scene now... Hey, not bad IMO.

Thanks ShinGaijin!

I really like what they've done here, much better than the Japanese one. If they would have continued on with the Buu Arc in 2011, it would have been fine leaving it as they did for the Japanese market, but because it has been nearly 3 years, they were right to add a 5 minute recap as a reminder (in my opinion).

I can't watch it, anyone got another link? :S

EDIT: Forget it I managed to watch it, I don't have any problems with the music placement, however it's kinda convoluted as first there's a cheerful piece (I wouldn't call it comical as kei17 suggest) then there's a serious piece, it's followed by another upbeat not so serious piece, then there's a serious piece again. Then a cheerful piece again XD