"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Cipher » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:31 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:That said I don't find Toyotarou to be talented even in the slightest bit. If it wasnt DB related I'd basically look at his style and never pick up his work again. In this I don't just mean art I means story telling as well.
Too harsh. The guy's no Toriyama, as he readily admits in interviews, and has obviously just been training to copy his style in various doujinshi and official ancillary works, but I hope he breaks out and publishes his own original work some time down the road if he's interested. Everything we've seen has been (obviously) derivative, but he still has a knack for expression and action. It'd be neat to see him branch out from the pure Toriyama impression at some point.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:15 am

Does anyone know how far the first collected volume goes? And when the second one is scheduled to be released?

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Post by Chelentano » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:25 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Does anyone know how far the first collected volume goes? And when the second one is scheduled to be released?
The first one covers chapters 1 to 9. The second it's rumored to be released on December 2nd. No official announcement about this, though.
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Post by TheMikado » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:06 am

WHat is wrong with being lazy if you are good enough and why practice if you don't need it? Some people need to practice to achieve new heights, some are just extremely talented.

That said I don't find Toyotarou to be talented even in the slightest bit. If it wasnt DB related I'd basically look at his style and never pick up his work again. In this I don't just mean art I means story telling as well.
^ I think this is what my issue is. It's like saying Michael Jordan is so good he doesn't need to practice, or a singer is so talented they don't need try and improve. Ironically the entirety of Dragonball Z is basically built around this concept. And then saying Toyotarou isn't talented!?!?! You don't have to like his style which also ironically is the closest to replicating Toriyamas that we've seen. I just don't understand how you can find one incredibly talented to the point he doesn't need to hone his skills and one completely untalented no matter what??

There's nothing wrong with being lazy, it's just a character trait. But the defense of this is to ridiculous levels now.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:18 am

Chelentano wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Does anyone know how far the first collected volume goes? And when the second one is scheduled to be released?
The first one covers chapters 1 to 9. The second it's rumored to be released on December 2nd. No official announcement about this, though.
Cheers. So they do end the first volume mid way though the tournament.

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Post by Chelentano » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:23 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Cheers. So they do end the first volume mid way though the tournament.
Exactly. Just when Frost reaches his final form.
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Post by samuo2 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:48 am

It would be perfect if we didn't have these four first chapter introduces new BoG elements.

We probably would have chapter 5 to 13 because of the great number of pages since the 5-6th chapters, and the second volumes would begin with chapter 14, the first of Miraï Trunks Arc.
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Post by Bansho64 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:57 am

Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P

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Post by TheMikado » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:17 pm

Bansho64 wrote:Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P
This is what I'm most excited about, plus the extra 50 pages that will be generated by it.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:56 pm

I'm most interested to see how he handles SSRoses look, especially the aura.
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Post by Noah » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:39 pm

Bansho64 wrote:Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P
A good thing would be: Black OHKO Trunks then Goku & Vegeta would team against Zamasu and him, another could be only Trunks fighting with Zamasu and Goku with Black, no transitions.
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Post by TheMikado » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:50 pm

Noah wrote:
Bansho64 wrote:Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P
A good thing would be: Black OHKO Trunks then Goku & Vegeta would team against Zamasu and him, another could be only Trunks fighting with Zamasu and Goku with Black, no transitions.
That's my prediction as well.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:58 am

Bansho64 wrote:Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P
The anime already did it justice.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:03 am

Bansho64 wrote:Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P
I'm curious to see whether he follows logic or throws it out the window too.
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Post by Bansho64 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:10 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: The anime already did it justice.
I never said it didn't :| All I asked is if manga would do it good. Not once in that paragraph did I say that the anime didn't do it well.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:17 am

Bansho64 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: The anime already did it justice.
I never said it didn't :| All I asked is if manga would do it good. Not once in that paragraph did I say that the anime didn't do it well.
Ah my bad I mis-interpreted your post, thought you were implying the anime did it bad.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:56 am

Bansho64 wrote:Do you guys think Toyotaro's gonna do the Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black justice? Judging from how the manga differs from the anime, he could probably create a whole new version of it. Let's just wait and see! :P
I wish he could explain Goku and Black were holding back in their respective skirmish with Zamasu and Trunks, giving their previous experiences. And that Trunks got stronger due to training with Vegeta.

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Post by simtek34 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:22 pm

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:55 pm

I really hope Toyotaro cleans up some of the time travel stuff from the anime. He probably can't as I suspect a lot of that comes from Toriyama but fingers crossed he can make it a little less convoluted.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:01 pm

Anyone know if the second volume's release date is in December? I read it was, but couldn't find an actual listing on cdjapan.
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