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Saiyan Prince Vegeta
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by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:25 pm
SSJ4_Zankuto wrote:Vegeta witnessed Super Saiyan 3 form for himself and two-years later after Pure Boo's death where Battle of Gods takes place. I'm not sure Vegeta could learn something new in two-years.
Well it looks like you're right. He could have reached it in his later years, but there's not even a hint as to him getting it in this time period. Oh well, hopefully one day he'll achieve it outside of a video game.
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by Draken » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:28 pm
MCDaveG wrote:But to went into discussion topic that I don't like.
By terminology, SSJ4 is 4th SSJ level, but! Technically, it is form of it's own, the perequisites is having tail and undergo different transformation process trough Golden Oozaru to reach SSJ4.
So you don't go trough SSJ, 2 and 3 to reach it. So by my GT fan-canon, SSJ God doesn't mean necessarily outclassing the SSj4 and also, we don't have any details yet, SSJG can be also form of it's own, without any relation to SSJ grades.
"God" implies >>>>>> 4,5,6,7,10000, whatever number you'd like to pick.
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by Herms » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:56 pm
I imagine that half the reason for them calling it "Super Saiyan God" was to do something different than the prior number-based naming scheme for Super Saiyan forms.
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by JeffJarrett » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:56 pm
Draken wrote:"God" implies >>>>>> 4,5,6,7,10000, whatever number you'd like to pick.
Not really. Kami's power level was 220, Kaio's 3,500 (below Frieza), and Kaioshins could only beat Frieza not Cell.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:04 pm
JeffJarrett wrote:Draken wrote:"God" implies >>>>>> 4,5,6,7,10000, whatever number you'd like to pick.
Not really. Kami's power level was 220, Kaio's 3,500 (below Freeza), and Kaioshins could only beat Freeza not Cell.
Not to mention Dende's power.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by DannyDBZfanforever » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:19 pm
we can assume:
Super Saiyan God Form > Super Saiyan Vegeto? (either manga or anime)
Super Saiyan God Form > Any Super Saiyan 4 Form ? (is Gt even canon to Battle of Gods??)
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by elyas11 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:20 pm
What's this I hear about Toriyama´s sketch of SSj God? Anyone know this?
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:24 pm
Wow, they advertise GT, but not Kai?!
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by sintzu » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:43 pm
SSJ4_Zankuto wrote:I'm not sure Vegeta could learn something new in two-years.
gotenks did in 6 months-1 year (rosat) so why not vegeta ?
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:47 pm
sintzu wrote:gotenks did in 6 months-1 year (rosat) so why not vegeta ?
Gotenks did it in 1 week, actually. But then again, SS Gotenks is a lot stronger than SS2 Vegeta.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by SSJ4_Zankuto » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:53 pm
sintzu wrote:SSJ4_Zankuto wrote:I'm not sure Vegeta could learn something new in two-years.
gotenks did in 6 months-1 year (rosat) so why not vegeta ?
Plus he learned Super Saiyan Grade 2 in just two months.
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by sintzu » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:05 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:sintzu wrote:gotenks did in 6 months-1 year (rosat) so why not vegeta ?
Gotenks did it in 1 week, actually. But then again, SS Gotenks is a lot stronger than SS2 Vegeta.
that doesn't mean vegeta can't reach it in a year or 2 if not less cause of his crazy training
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
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by MCDaveG » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:07 pm
This discussion looks like you made it on purposse, hence my answer in this topic
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 80#p622856
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by kei17 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:25 pm
A show named MAG Net on NHK featured BoG, and it said they're planning on international screenings.
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by Chuquita » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:27 pm
Really? O_O
*Is curious about when this will be and where.*
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by VegettoEX » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:34 pm
I can't remember if that's the show Julian stayed up to check out a little bit earlier today and then fell asleep because it was so vapid.
I was getting a play-by-play of the terribleness of the show; they did a little DBZ stuff showing off foreign fans, a flipbook thing on YouTube, etc. Same show?
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by NeoKING » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:36 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Wow, they advertise GT, but not Kai?!
Because Kai doesn't have Dragon Boxes. Those are all the Dragon Boxes plus the manga. And, just goes to show that Toei hasn't "forgotten/ignored/thrashed GT" like everyone likes to believe.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:39 pm
International screenings would be awesome, but I know it'd never come anywhere close enough for me to go see it - so I'm still stuck waiting for an eventual DVD release. Sometimes it really sucks to be in the middle of nowhere.
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