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Re: So MLP Just Went DBZ....

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun May 11, 2014 7:18 pm

Lack of a better term is right considering I'm talking about how men are perceived, not women. And, no, I'm not judging you. I don't care if you like My Little Pony. I don't care if you find it weird. I don't care if you find people who like it weird. What I do care about are your bullying remarks towards people who do.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 11, 2014 7:23 pm

JulieYBM wrote:It's like watching two cardboard cutouts of the character models sliding across the screen. There's no sense of motion or personality despite all of the money spent.
That's pretty much American/Western(?) kids animation for the past ten years unfortunately. Ever since they switched to flash for most of their cartoons, they began looking lifeless and cheap. Avatar is an exception though. Of course, I stopped watching western cartoons when I was 13 or so, so I don't know if any current shows are "good" or not.\

I have zero interest in MLP, and I would have if I was a kid too.
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Re: So MLP Just Went DBZ....

Post by ABED » Sun May 11, 2014 7:28 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Lack of a better term is right considering I'm talking about how men are perceived, not women. And, no, I'm not judging you. I don't care if you like My Little Pony. I don't care if you find it weird. I don't care if you find people who like it weird. What I do care about are your bullying remarks towards people who do.
You consider that bullying? I said that MLP is more ridiculous than DBZ, and I'd be a lot more understanding if it wasn't for how antagonistic thatdbzguy is towards a show he joined a fan forum to discuss.

And dispite it all, I know all the sociology and gender studies courses like to talk about gender roles especially when it comes to male insecurity, but there are just some things that are weird. Call me intolerant all you want, I think it's weird that grown men like show aimed at little girls. That wouldn't be a big issue, if a certain individual wasn't so adamant about using this particular one to knock DBZ.

Metalwario64, some superhero cartoons in the past few years have been really good, such as Green Lantern and Spectacular Spider-Man. Unfortunately, both were cancelled after 26 episodes.
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Re: So MLP Just Went DBZ....

Post by Cetra » Sun May 11, 2014 7:33 pm

I say watch or don't watch what you want but don't expect others to like or dislike it and accept it and them as they have to accept you and what you do, they can also watch or not watch what they want. That scene just showed me I was good with not watching My Little Pony. Avatar? Yes. Certain Disney shows and movies? Yes. My Little Pony? No.
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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Sun May 11, 2014 7:33 pm

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Post by ABED » Sun May 11, 2014 7:35 pm

Cetra wrote:I say watch or don't watch what you want but don't expect others to like or dislike it and accept it and them as they have to accept you and what you do, they can also watch what they want. That scene just showed me I was good with not watching My Little Pony.
I agree if I'm understanding you correctly.

Like what you want, but don't expect me to agree or not think it's weird.
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Post by Cetra » Sun May 11, 2014 7:39 pm

ABED wrote: I agree if I'm understanding you correctly.

Like what you want, but don't expect me to agree or not think it's weird.
I don't know if you understood me correctly because of your last sentence. I don't like My Little Pony. I just say, the Thread Maker can watch what he wants. The two of us can think it is weird or certain people watching it is weird, still they have the right to do so. As you said, "Like what you want", so you probably did understand.

Or was that last line of yours here to sum up what I said?
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Post by ABED » Sun May 11, 2014 7:41 pm

Cetra wrote:
ABED wrote: I agree if I'm understanding you correctly.

Like what you want, but don't expect me to agree or not think it's weird.
I don't know if you understood me correctly because of your last sentence. I don't like My Little Pony. I just say, the Thread Maker can watch what he wants. The two of us can think it is weird or certain people watching it is weird, still they have the right to do so. As you said, "Like what you want", so you probably did understand.

Or was that last line of yours here to sum up what I said?
Yeppers, we are on the same page.
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Post by qjz123 » Sun May 11, 2014 7:42 pm

Cetra wrote:
ABED wrote: I agree if I'm understanding you correctly.

Like what you want, but don't expect me to agree or not think it's weird.
I don't know if you understood me correctly because of your last sentence. I don't like My Little Pony. I just say, the Thread Maker can watch what he wants. The two of us can think it is weird or certain people watching it is weird, still they have the right to do so. As you said, "Like what you want", so you probably did understand.

Or was that last line of yours here to sum up what I said?
At the same time I think it's weird to come on a Dragon Ball fan site and make a thread talking about how bad Dragon Ball Z is and how much better MLP is in comparison.
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Re: So MLP Just Went DBZ....

Post by Cetra » Sun May 11, 2014 7:43 pm

qjz123 wrote: At the same time I think it's weird to come on a Dragon Ball fan site and make thread talking about how bad Dragon Ball Z is and how much better MLP is in comparison.
Yes, that on the other hand is a bit weird but I mean, I also have several hobbies that I think DB is old shoes against in comparison. I just don't talk about it that much.
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Post by ABED » Sun May 11, 2014 7:44 pm

His claim is that he doesn't hate the series, he simply thinks it's so bad that it's good. I have no idea what that means, but it's what he says.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun May 11, 2014 7:46 pm

ABED wrote:His claim is that he doesn't hate the series, he simply thinks it's so bad that it's good. I have no idea what that means, but it's what he says.
Ever been told a joke so corny or bad it's"funny" just not in the right way. Its the same with DbzGuy opinion on Z

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Post by Cetra » Sun May 11, 2014 7:46 pm

ABED wrote:His claim is that he doesn't hate the series, he simply thinks it's so bad that it's good. I have no idea what that means, but it's what he says.
That is actually is something I know of myself. Some things have an entertaining trash factor. Still it seems, from what I have read that he does appreciate more than that about it.

EDIT: Oh, you seem to mean Dragon Ball.
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Post by ABED » Sun May 11, 2014 7:50 pm

Cetra wrote:
ABED wrote:His claim is that he doesn't hate the series, he simply thinks it's so bad that it's good. I have no idea what that means, but it's what he says.
That is actually is something I know of myself. Some things have an entertaining trash factor. Still it seems, from what I have read that he does appreciate more than that about it.

EDIT: Oh, you seem to mean Dragon Ball.
Well, I get that some things are so bad that they can be entertaining in their terribleness. Like there are some line deliveries by A-List actors that are SO over the top that they are entertaining, but I still wouldn't call that good. Maybe he doesn't mean "good" but entertaining in it's terribleness, but I still don't know what it means in this context because he never says what he thinks is so bad it's good. He just insults the series every chance he gets.
Ever been told a joke so corny or bad it's"funny" just not in the right way. Its the same with DbzGuy opinion on Z
It depends on context and delivery.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sun May 11, 2014 7:52 pm

Actually, thatdbzguy claims that he thinks DB is good and likes some parts of Z:
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+ Vegeta was a great villain
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+ Humans were actually relevant in a fight

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+ Freeza showed a lot of promise
+ Super Saiyan was a cool reveal
+ Nice final battle

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+ Toriyama's return to his goofiness felt refreshing
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Post by ABED » Sun May 11, 2014 7:52 pm

I'm using his own words. I just wish that instead of knocking DBZ every single chance he gets, he would say good things about the show he does like. I don't see why he would want to be so negative.
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Post by thatdbzguy » Sun May 11, 2014 8:02 pm

ABED wrote:It's weird that you watch MLP, constantly criticize DBZ on a DBZ forum, and yet you claim to haven't watched any incarnation of Batman.
I "constantly criticize" DBZ because I find significantly more wrong with it than I do right. If you want me to say positive things about it, look at Kid Buu's post.

Regarding the Batman thing, I've just never been into superheroes, even when I was a little kid. The most I've seen is some live-action superhero movies, but I never watched any superhero cartoon series or read any superhero comics.
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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Sun May 11, 2014 8:06 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
ABED wrote:It's weird that you watch MLP, constantly criticize DBZ on a DBZ forum, and yet you claim to haven't watched any incarnation of Batman.
I "constantly criticize" DBZ because I find significantly more wrong with it than I do right. If you want me to say positive things about it, look at Kid Buu's post.

Regarding the Batman thing, I've just never been into superheroes, even when I was a little kid. The most I've seen is some live-action superhero movies, but I never watched any superhero cartoon series or read any superhero comics.
If don't have anything positive to say about Dragon Ball Z then stop coming on to a Dragon Ball Z forum problem solved.

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Post by thatdbzguy » Sun May 11, 2014 8:09 pm

JEFFMAN219 wrote:If don't have anything positive to say about Dragon Ball Z then stop coming on to a Dragon Ball Z forum problem solved.
I just said to look at Kid Buu's recent post to find positive things I've said about DBZ.
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Post by Ajay » Sun May 11, 2014 8:47 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:If don't have anything positive to say about Dragon Ball Z then stop coming on to a Dragon Ball Z forum problem solved.
I just said to look at Kid Buu's recent post to find positive things I've said about DBZ.
A couple of positives doesn't negate the sheer amount of negativity that comes from you.

Your most recently post about loss is the type of discussion I enjoy though. It's passive, it doesn't flaunt your negative opinion as its primary goal and it raises an interesting point about the series that encourages some interesting talking points.

I'd love to see more posts like that rather than the typical 'What do you hate most about X and Y in Dragon Ball'.
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