Which series had a more natural transition? Super or GT

[Kuririn Fan]

The ultimate dragon ball arc should have been shorter like the Dragon ball arc in DB. Like 10 - 15 eps. Goku being a kid would have been fine if it wasn't for very long like 10 eps.

That's easily the worst decision GT team made. I love kid Goku to death, but that was just wrong and bad, especially since he stayed the kid the WHOLE fucking series. A proper series with EoZ Goku would be amazing, i hope Super goes past the manga ending.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

The ultimate dragon ball arc should have been shorter like the Dragon ball arc in DB. Like 10 - 15 eps. Goku being a kid would have been fine if it wasn't for very long like 10 eps.

That's easily the worst decision GT team made. I love kid Goku to death, but that was just wrong and bad, especially since he stayed the kid the WHOLE fucking series. A proper series with EoZ Goku would be amazing, i hope Super goes past the manga ending.

It wasn't that bad actually, they were smart enough not to depower him or make him act like a kid. He just looked like a kid. I didn't see the big deal considering his base form and SSJ1 form were just as irrelevant then as they are now. Also they did have the sense to leave him an adult as a SS4, which he fought in the most after he got it. So it wasn't that bad, him being an adult in his base form but acting as oblivious and ignorant as he is in Super, really isn't the continuation of his character I want.

[Kuririn Fan]

The ultimate dragon ball arc should have been shorter like the Dragon ball arc in DB. Like 10 - 15 eps. Goku being a kid would have been fine if it wasn't for very long like 10 eps.

That's easily the worst decision GT team made. I love kid Goku to death, but that was just wrong and bad, especially since he stayed the kid the WHOLE fucking series. A proper series with EoZ Goku would be amazing, i hope Super goes past the manga ending.

It wasn't that bad actually, they were smart enough not to depower him or make him act like a kid. He just looked like a kid. I didn't see the big deal considering his base form and SSJ1 form were just as irrelevant then as they are now. Also they did have the sense to leave him an adult as a SS4, which he fought in the most after he got it. So it wasn't that bad, him being an adult in his base form but acting as oblivious and ignorant as he is in Super, really isn't the continuation of his character I want.

I didn't like it, everything GT did was bad and weird and just didn't felt right and Dragon Ball. Super feels like Dragon Ball.
Also, they tanned him for some reason, lol.

[TenshinFan]

I didn't like it, everything GT did was bad and weird and just didn't felt right and Dragon Ball. Super feels like Dragon Ball.
Also, they tanned him for some reason, lol.

Oh please. For all GT's flaws, surely you can't say Super is immaculate. Obviously it's natural to have your own preferences, but Super isn't exactly the gospel truth. Instead of trawling every GT thread talking smack, wander over to the Super board and say something positive for once instead.

I'm not partial to the Great Saiyaman arc, but I don't constantly berate it's inconsistencies to other fans, let alone just drop casual blanket statements like "The entire thing was bad!"

[Captain Strawberry]

character I want.

Also, they tanned him for some reason, lol.[/quote]

based on Toriyama's artwork, I think the tan or rather brown skin is his real skin color.

[Kuririn Fan]

based on Toriyama's artwork, I think the tan or rather brown skin is his real skin color.

Nah, he's pale.

[Captain Strawberry]

based on Toriyama's artwork, I think the tan or rather brown skin is his real skin color.

Nah, he's pale.

in the anime, in Toriyama's artwork. He is dispirited as brown a lot of the time (I think) and I'm going to go with Toriyama's artwork

[Kuririn Fan]

based on Toriyama's artwork, I think the tan or rather brown skin is his real skin color.

Nah, he's pale.

in the anime, in Toriyama's artwork. He is dispirited as brown a lot of the time (I think) and I'm going to go with Toriyama's artwork

He's pale in the manga, as well, but i think his "official" skin color is yellow (not the actual yellow, but yellow associated with the Asian race).

[Kamiccolo9]

Gohan is pale. Goku has tended to be more tanned in colored artwork. Which makes sense seeing as he grew up outdoors and stuff.

[Kuririn Fan]

Ok, guys, you got me, i am defeated, Goku has a tan, but GT made him tanner, lol.
Anyway, yeah, Super is definitely a more natural transition, all the world building and lore and stuff, while GT seems so small and irrelevant...

[Bansho64]

Anyway, yeah, Super is definitely a more natural transition, all the world building and lore and stuff, while GT seems so small and irrelevant...

Can you elaborate?

[Kuririn Fan]

Anyway, yeah, Super is definitely a more natural transition, all the world building and lore and stuff, while GT seems so small and irrelevant...

Can you elaborate?

Cipher made a nice post on previous page.

[Zephyr]

Ok, guys, you got me, i am defeated, Goku has a tan, but GT made him tanner, lol.

He trained in Uub's village for five years.

[Kuririn Fan]

Ok, guys, you got me, i am defeated, Goku has a tan, but GT made him tanner, lol.

He trained in Uub's village for five years.

Yeah, makes sense, but he becomes pale again with SS4.

[Zephyr]

That's true, I've never really paid attention to that. Super Saiyan 4's all kinds of weird though.

[Kuririn Fan]

That's true, I've never really paid attention to that. Super Saiyan 4's all kinds of weird though.

Definitely a badass design though, can't argue with that. Even i can say something positive about GT

[Zephyr]

Yeah, 4's probably my favorite Saiyan form, with 3 right behind it. It makes Goku look like a true monkey king.

[Soppa Saia People]

The ultimate dragon ball arc should have been shorter like the Dragon ball arc in DB. Like 10 - 15 eps. Goku being a kid would have been fine if it wasn't for very long like 10 eps.

That's easily the worst decision GT team made. I love kid Goku to death, but that was just wrong and bad, especially since he stayed the kid the WHOLE fucking series. A proper series with EoZ Goku would be amazing, i hope Super goes past the manga ending.

I have to agree with that, it was trying to be a throwback to OGDB but it just didn't work.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Both Gt and super made Goku tan, neither time was it good IMO, and both times they gave goku a weird shine effect like everyone else, neither time it was good. both times gt did it better, but it was still a downgrade from Z. gt is the official continuation to Z, super's the official continuation to either the manga or kai, or both depending on how you view it. it matches more with kia though.

Toei's canon is ball-z-gt so gt naturally fits with it, you cant really call super a continuation to Z or even fit with it as it's not meant to, it outright ignores the filler, which to Z(the anime) is canonical.

Super is meant to either fit with the manga or Kai, as it acknowledges things the manga doesn't have, the kai approved filler. I think its best to say the 2 films fit with the manga and super and its version of the 2 films match super.

[BoosterZabi]

To be fair, I don't really consider Dragonball Super to have had started until the Champa Arc. It's quite obvious they retold BoG and RoF in DBS because the show debuted on July 5, 2015 just a week after Dragonball Kai's Buu saga ended on June 28, 2015, so they wanted to keep that momentum going until original content could be aired but also to show what exactly happened for those who didn't watch the two movies. So honestly to me the show has just begun and is 13 episodes in.