Caulifa is a threat to Goku.

[Saturnine]

I looked it up and Broly's LSSJ form was about as powerful as a SSJ3 maybe even a little more so. Then you add to in the fact that instead of draining its users energy like a normal it does the opposite and gets more and more powerful as time goes on. LSSJ is a huge advantage but also a disadvantage. In Broly's case he was so powerful from the start that he didn't respect his enemies and didn't learn how to properly fight. He would just rush in head on into battles without a care in the world. He wouldn't block or dodge or even think up any kind of plan other then "Broly SMASH!". He would just rely on his overwhelming strength to win. If he was to face someone around his level of strength who actually worked for that kind of power like say Goku in SSJ3 form. Broly would have had his ass handed to him on a silver platter simply because he has no real experience or training in fighting people that are at or around his level.

No it wasn't as strong as SSj3. It was probably weaker than 2x Goku, otherwise everyone would die in a single punch.

[GodKaio-Ken]

No it wasn't as strong as SSj3. It was probably weaker than 2x Goku, otherwise everyone would die in a single punch.

Agreed...mainly because we know Broly never held back.

[cheddarsword]

No it wasn't as strong as SSj3. It was probably weaker than 2x Goku, otherwise everyone would die in a single punch.

Agreed...mainly because we know Broly never held back.

No, he didn't hold back, but there's also a difference between "not holding back" and "going all out". If he actually put all his power into each attack, he likely would have killed Goku in seconds in the first movie. Remember, he wanted them to suffer.

I still agree that he wasn't anywhere near SS3 though. more like around SS2 Gohan during the Cell games, or maybe Super Perfect Cell.

[Saturnine]

No it wasn't as strong as SSj3. It was probably weaker than 2x Goku, otherwise everyone would die in a single punch.

Agreed...mainly because we know Broly never held back.

No, he didn't hold back, but there's also a difference between "not holding back" and "going all out". If he actually put all his power into each attack, he likely would have killed Goku in seconds in the first movie. Remember, he wanted them to suffer.

I still agree that he wasn't anywhere near SS3 though. more like around SS2 Gohan during the Cell games, or maybe Super Perfect Cell.

That's only if you think SSj2 is actually only 2x SSj. Before the SEG came out, most people were rather under the impression that it was anywhere from 5 to 8x, based on all the levels of power Cell powered up to, yet still couldn't do squat against Gohan. But yeah, I think putting Broly at 2x Goku in the movie wouldn't be too much of a stretch. Still, it can be argued that full power Perfect Cell had that kind of power on his own, without even the need to bring Super Perfect Cell into this.

[Kastex]

she's NOT ss2. they just fucked up while drawing the preview.

[SaiyanGod117]

she's NOT ss2. they just fucked up while drawing the preview.

How do you know that?

[Kastex]

she's NOT ss2. they just fucked up while drawing the preview.

How do you know that?

my supreme powers of deduction, of course. we've seen screw ups like that many times in previews. besides that, ss2 has a lot more intensity to it than ss1. other than one bang sticking upwards, and her hair drawn awkwardly, it looks no different from her base super saiyan.

i'll admit that the saiyans in universe 6 are obviously different from the saiyans in universe 7. my competent theory is that since the saiyans in universe 6 evolved in their natural habit, unlike the saiyans in universe 7, their super saiyan potential is a lot less blotted than our universe 7 saiyans. this makes sense since both cabba and caulifla (soon kale) have achieved the transformation so easily while our saiyans in universe 7 struggled (except for the talented mongrels). cabba was easily able to distinguish the "tingly" feeling on his back and teaches the transformation that way, which we have never seen before. as for why the universe 7 half breeds were able to transform much easier than goku and vegeta, i suppose we can just chalk that up to talent and potential.

gohan went through very intense training to achieve ss2, and even then there were many other things that contributed to breaking through that wall. first and foremost, they strongly believed that they could ascend beyond super saiyan, and they HAD to do it to survive, while caulifla made it clear that she doesn't care too much if the universe is erased. second, if gohan had not seen goku in the ascended saiyan form then he would not have known that it was pretty much just bloated muscles. he likely would not have made it past that point (this goes without saying, but at this point i am being very logical based on what has already happened throughout the series. obviously logic isn't the only factor in predicting what WILL happen).

it simply does not make any sense that caulifla could ascend to ss2. well, the only way it would make sense is depending on what kale does. apparently, kale's super saiyan capabilities are... different. if she transforms into a base saiyan and then activates rage roid mode, then that should give the others the idea to ascend beyond base super saiyan. if it happens the way i just described (if it's going to happen, this is the only way it makes sense), then you will understand.

[BlueBasilisk]

If it's about the lack of lightning, which I've been hearing a lot lately, I'd suggest checking out Goku's fights in 90, 53 and 50. Super Saiyan 2 never has the crackling electricity when they're not powered up with an aura.

my supreme powers of deduction, of course. we've seen screw ups like that many times in previews. besides that, ss2 has a lot more intensity to it than ss1. other than one bang sticking upwards, and her hair drawn awkwardly, it looks no different from her base super saiyan.

It looks completely different. Her Super Saiyan form is her normal hair recolored gold and sticking slightly up in the back. Here all of her hair except for a few small bangs is sticking up, and it's nearly a mirror image of SS2 Goku. She even has the same number of bangs on opposite sides.

[Kastex]

If it's about the lack of lightning, which I've been hearing a lot lately, I'd suggest checking out Goku's fights in 90, 53 and 50. Super Saiyan 2 never has the crackling electricity when they're not powered up with an aura.

my supreme powers of deduction, of course. we've seen screw ups like that many times in previews. besides that, ss2 has a lot more intensity to it than ss1. other than one bang sticking upwards, and her hair drawn awkwardly, it looks no different from her base super saiyan.

It looks completely different. Her Super Saiyan form is her normal hair recolored gold and sticking slightly up in the back. Here all of her hair except for a few small bangs is sticking up, and it's nearly a mirror image of SS2 Goku. She even has the same number of bangs on opposite sides.

the lack of electricity was one of the last things i considered when looking for ss2 intensity in that picture. i know it's not always there.

EDIT: also, the hair piece hanging downwards, right above both of her ears in the second picture is not there in the first picture. if it were true that the second picture was accurate, then the hair piece would be there in the first picture. even so, if it were true that the bottom picture was her ss2, then the hair piece would be pointed downwards in the first picture, while pointing UPwards in the second picture.

[Zillamon51]

Oh, she's definitely a threat to Goku. Goku likes to talk, and if he lets it slip that going SSB is like "tensing up your tummy muscles, like holding in a poo" or something, then she's there. If she overhears that Kaio-ken is like "squinting your eyes to look far away," then it's over. She'll take out Champa and Vados at that rate.

[Kastex]

Oh, she's definitely a threat to Goku. Goku likes to talk, and if he lets it slip that going SSB is like "tensing up your tummy muscles, like holding in a poo" or something, then she's there. If she overhears that Kaio-ken is like "squinting your eyes to look far away," then it's over. She'll take out Champa and Vados at that rate.

lol yea. in all seriousness though in don't think she's much of a threat. she's special, but she's still a female (i'm not being sexist.... okay in kinda am, but roll with me for a minute). okay so the saiyans from universe 7 and 6 are slightly different, right? we don't really know much about female saiyans, but we do know that they tend to be weaker than male saiyans. i'm pretty sure it was mentioned officially somewhere that the female saiyans weren't really expected to be warriors like the male saiyans, so most female saiyans were much weaker than the male saiyans. even goku's mom worked a job beating meat (working in some meat factory).

that's just what we know, of course. we don't know the full extent of how different the universe 6 saiyans are from the universe 7 saiyans. most of them are built like twigs, while the universe 7 saiyans are not. perhaps that's due to difference in eating habits, and that one group lived like savages while the other group does not.

maybe the universe 6 saiyans are all vegans (don't take this the wrong way, i think vegan is the best way to go). it's easy to get built while on the vegan diet if you know how to do it properly, but the popular belief is that vegans can't get gains like meat eaters. and then there's the whole vegetable names thing, and planet sadal (salad). just a theory.

EDIT: except for caulifla who we've seen eat a giant piece of meat, but she's a rebel, sooooo yea.
EDIT: and the way she was eating that meat.... looking up at the camera like she just did some naughty shit and feels great about it.
EDIT: obviously a display of attitude towards the widely accepted veganism of the saiyans of universe 6. makes sense, just saiyan.
EDIT: lol she's like "yeaaaa i'm eating meat like a fuckin' boss. don't like it, come do something about it".

[kidhero1000]

she's NOT ss2. they just fucked up while drawing the preview.

[Kastex]

she's NOT ss2. they just fucked up while drawing the preview.

where is that pic from?

[Grimlock]

From Dragon Ball Super's official Twitter account.

[Kastex]

From Dragon Ball Super's official Twitter account.

show me the tweet.

[Sodhi]

show me the tweet.

Here
https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 2706931712

[Kastex]

show me the tweet.

Here
https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 2706931712

well... we'll see when it gets animated. if anything, it simply must have happened the way i explained.

[Kishido]

Give it up... She clearly is Super Saiyan 2.

[Kastex]

Give it up... She clearly is Super Saiyan 2.

okay yes. the problem was the bad drawing in the preview.

[SansrivaaL]

What bad drawing? it was painfully obvious she was SSJ2.