Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Super Sonic » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:03 pm

With the Saiyan pronunciation thing, I see that like how some words from other languages get adopted into English and may be pronounced differently, like guy from Mexico will say "llama" and "burrito" differently than an English speaker.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:10 pm

I'll be honest, unless a name has been completely changed, it's hard for a slight pronunciation change to really bother me. Slightly annoy me, sure, but not enough to get me to the point of actually feeling "bothered" by it, if that makes sense. Changes in characterization and dialogue bother me far, far more than any pronunciation change.

With that said, "Saiyan" probably comes the closest to bothering me. I consider FUNimation's pronunciation to be an annoyance, but a very minor annoyance that doesn't take me out of the scene. If, on the other hand, they had done something like what the French dub did and called them "Space Warriors" instead, that would bother me a heck of a lot more.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by TheBigBoy » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:21 pm

Yeah I think people get too wrapped around the axle about how certain things are pronounced. Do people in other languages get like this when they watch dubs of Spongebob or whatever?

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Mewzard » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:41 pm

I think Bulla's my pet peeve. Bulma's been in my mind too long to get mad at, but I knew her daughter's name was Bra long before I ever heard Bulla, so that's the one that bothers me.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:53 pm

I don't get how Vegito works.

I'm not really bothered by Krillin like some are.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:08 pm

Most certainly "Bulla".
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by MyVisionity » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:43 pm

JohnnyCashKami wrote:
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JohnnyCashKami wrote:But even worse is that they mispronounced the word Saiyan and never gave a fuck to fix that.
The way Funi pronounces it honestly doesn't sound too far off from the original. I think it would sound much worse if they attempted to follow the Japanese pronunciation, mostly because they decided to go with the "Saiyan" spelling instead of "Saiya" or something else.
You would have a point if it was spelled "Sayan" but it's Saiyan.

Saiyan and Sayan sound completely different. Saiyan = Cyan / Sayan = Say-un
"Saiya" and "Saya" are not really that different at all. If anything, Funi comes closer to "Saiya" than "Saya". Either way, those two spellings could be interpreted in a variety of different ways across languages.

Also, would you really want to hear them pronounce the race like "Cyan"? Personally for me that would sound totally off and kinda silly. I think I prefer "Say-un" as long as Funimation is gonna use the "Saiyan" spelling.
Super Sonic wrote:With the Saiyan pronunciation thing, I see that like how some words from other languages get adopted into English and may be pronounced differently, like guy from Mexico will say "llama" and "burrito" differently than an English speaker.
This is a good point, as well.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Super Sonic » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:51 pm

TheBigBoy wrote:Yeah I think people get too wrapped around the axle about how certain things are pronounced. Do people in other languages get like this when they watch dubs of Spongebob or whatever?
I think things like that tend to be more of a thing with anime and English speakers. Looked at the Spanish track of PPG and their names are different. And from what I know of Spanish, Bombom or Bon Bon doesn't translate as "Blossom", but think folks don't care about that sort of thing. Also from what I heard, in Japan folks don't care about watching Looney Tunes or Disney movies subbed but just watch them dubbed. (Though on a semi-related note, part of me wonders if Scandanavian dub of Pokemon called Team Rocket Red and Eric to do a pun).

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:08 pm

FUCK MY POST GOT DELETED GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

But I already said this, The Latin American version does rename the girls but it does keep true to Craig McCrackens vision which is that all the Powerpuff girls are named girly things with the Letter B. Seriously, watch the movie. Also if you want to point fingers at something do it to the Spain version which is frankly awful.

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Top is kind of silly, what was wrong with Toppo?
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Tian » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:41 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: PETALO, BURBUJA Y CACTO WTF-
Whoever adapted them like that should have been fired before the recording of the first episode. Not only they didn't respect the B theme naming, they also translated the names wrong. Blossom doesn't mean Petalo but it's another English word for Flor, Bubbles was translated in singular (the correct is the plural Burbujas) and the worst of all, Buttercup doesn't mean Cacto (Cactus), it's Bellota instead. Who the hell can mistake a buttercup for a cactus?

This is not only the translator's fault, It's also Cartoon Network and Turner's fault for approving those not conventional names.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Spider-Man » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:15 pm

Vegito doesn't make any sense why the letter i is in the name?

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Tian » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:41 pm

Spider-Man wrote:Vegito doesn't make any sense why the letter i is in the name?
Without it, it still makes no sense. The -to part in the name should be -ot because in the English dub, Kakarotto is adapted as Kakarot, so it shouldn't be Vegito or Vegetto, it should be Vegerot instead.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Vegard Aune » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:18 am

Super Sonic wrote:(Though on a semi-related note, part of me wonders if Scandanavian dub of Pokemon called Team Rocket Red and Eric to do a pun).
The Norwegian dub didn't, at least. Still "Jessie and James". I don't think they changed any names, at least not the names of any major characters, from what they were in the English dub.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Spider-Man » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:37 am

Tian wrote:
Spider-Man wrote:Vegito doesn't make any sense why the letter i is in the name?
Without it, it still makes no sense. The -to part in the name should be -ot because in the English dub, Kakarotto is adapted as Kakarot, so it shouldn't be Vegito or Vegetto, it should be Vegerot instead.
Agreed and IIRC in the Viz's English Manga of DBZ refer Vegito as Vegerot so why they didn't use that name it make more sense.

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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by PremiumSalt » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:00 am

"Tien Shinhan" makes my blood boil.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by TobyS » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:12 pm

PremiumSalt wrote:"Tien Shinhan" makes my blood boil.
It's like they knew they were going to shorten it so implied it was first-last as a set up for an in universe excuse.

I guess I don't like any funi tweaks. Not because I'm a purist but because filler makes all characters seem more whimpery and cheerleady, so in other words Krillin is a wimp but Kuririn is a badass.

I almost see them as separate characters like if people kept talking about how lame deadpool was but only referencing wolverine origins deadpool.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Robo4900 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:20 am

Stuff like Buu, Frieza, Krillin, or Tien Shinhan don't really bother me. There's no loss of meaning compared to the sub/manga terminology, and Tenshinhan is the only one actually pronounced differently, and it's not even that big a change.

The ones that really bother me are the GT evil dragons, the Crane Hermit, Kaioken and Kaio(Seriously... Either go with Kaioken and Kaio -- pronounced correctly!! -- or King Kai and King Kai Fist. The way Funi does it makes no sense), Makankosappo, and Bra(It's blatant censorship, and arguably reflects some sexist attitudes).

There are some that bother me that they didn't change; Vegetto just doesn't work in English if you're going with Kakarot, so just do what the manga did and call him Vegerot... And there are some that they just dumbly romanised without paying proper attention, particularly the Ginyu Force, whose names need a bit of consideration to romanise in a way that renders their name puns well; Butta and Jheese seem like obvious ways of rendering those two, Ghurd/Guldo you're hard pressed to get right so I won't press on that, and Reacoom/Recoome is a nightmare, so perhaps those two should have had new names invented for English if you want to adapt the puns... But wherever you lean on how to properly adapt the more difficult Ginyu Force names, Funimation really did put in the bare minimum effort there.

I do think it's also a little bit of a shame Funi didn't retain the element from the Japanese version of each of the Dragon Balls having a proper name of the Chinese way of saying what they are(Similar to the GT evil dragons, it's [number]-star ball in Chinese, so the four(Si) star(Xing) ball(Qiu) becomes Si Xing Qiu, which -- for the record -- would be pronounced along the lines of "Suu shin chyuu"), though I suppose that's less a name change, and more just totally excluding an element that one could easily and reasonably argue shouldn't be rendered in English in this way anyway... :lol:
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by ABED » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:05 am

Why does the name pun have to be immediately apparent? I like Reacoom because it is actually clever.

Tenshinhan's name change bugs me. Chaozu's spelling doesn't irritate me, but I don't get why FUNi would make the spelling more difficult.

Name changes usually don't bug me as much as pronunciations.
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Re: Which of FUNimation's Name Changes Bother You the Most?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:41 am

I just want to point out: to the people saying that FUNimation should have done what Viz did by changing Vegetto to Vegerot, it should be noted that FUNimation dubbed that part of the series about three years before Viz reached it in the manga. With everything having been released now for years, and with the common knowledge that the manga beget the anime, it's easy to forget (or just not know) that the English release of the manga was always significantly behind the English dub of the television series... well, at least in terms of Z. Thanks to FUNi skipping over most of Dragon Ball, and Viz splitting the series into two and releasing them simultaneously, they got quite a head start on that, although I'm pretty sure FUNimation still managed to catch up by the end. Anyway, the more you know and all that. Unless you're less suggesting they copy Viz's translation and more suggesting they had come up with the name independently. Personally, while I understand Vegerot, I'm not a fan. But I'm sure we can all agree that "Vegito" is absolutely terrible.
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