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Exactly my point. The keyword is "little support" you aren’t on that extreme side I'm referring to.omegacwa wrote:No.NeptuneKai wrote:Goku could be a twelve year old girl with down syndrome and they would still proclaim it to be an epic retelling.
For example, if Vegeta is portrayed as a woman in a possible sequel, Fox can say goodbye to the little support I have given them
I did. I was in the theater to be see some impressive fights between giant robots, and I've never been impressed, because I couldn't understand what was going on, or because of a bad point of view. Or even because some fights are not even shown on screen, can you believe it ? When I came back home, I watched Macross Plus on my little TV and then, I've been impressed.I think people have way to high standards for movies or something. Seriously, there are people who thought Transformers was bad? Seriously?
Well, maybe I missed a few points, but the fact remains that there are far more non-DB elements than DB. And no, having the basic plot outline doesn’t cut it. If you keep that and change everything else (“Peter Parker gets bitten by a radioactive spider and obtains superpowers; neglects using them to stop a criminal who murders his uncle; vows to fight crime from then on out—and oh yeah he’s super-enthusiastic about what he does, lives in the woods, constantly hungry, has a monk for a sidekick, and has never touched a textbook in his life!”) it stops being what it originally set out to be.omegacwa wrote:You are blatantly ignoring other facts to sway your opinion. I really don't want to delve into it, but there is much more than that.
But, didn’t you deride other people for offending it before they saw it? How is that any different?Also, I am in the "cult" because I am not angry over the movie, and I am willing to defend it until I see it.
What effect does the quality of previous movies have on this one?If it turns out wretchedly bad, which I doubt cause I haven't seen a movie that was mainstream that was really bad in a while
If it were completely unrecognizable we would not be having this discussion because nobody here would recognize it. Obviously, there are some recognizable elements, but there simply aren’t enough.until I have seen a horrible botching of the franchise to the point that it is unrecognizable, which as of yet has not happened to me, I will remain indifferent.
How high is too high?I think people have way to high standards for movies or something.
Are you saying that a faithful-looking Dragon Ball would have looked horrible? One with, say, color?Seriously, there are people who thought Transformers was bad? Seriously? That movie was a lot of fun, it's not like it was an oscar winning Drama, but that's not what it was supposed to be. Oh "The transformers weren't all blocky looking like the cartoon!" are you kidding, that would have looked horrible.
So have I. For every bad movie there are a dozen more worse ones out there. But they’re still bad. You could stick anything next to the stinkers and it would look good by comparison; you’re interpreting the negative reactions on too broad a scale. DBE looks bad by Hollywood standards. It is obviously going to be leagues better than your Z-movie Horror film. That doesn’t mean we’re all somehow obligated to enjoy it.I think people need to see a bad movie, like an actual bad movie, then they might understand. As I grew up on movies, I understand what makes something good/bad, my dad is a huge movie buff so I was pretty much raised on movies. I have seen some really horrible stuff.
Granted, but we were all doing just fine without a live-action movie. Why should we be grateful for the few odd bones they throw us when we weren’t even hungry in the first place?The reality is that Hollywood is a shitty place, with so many people trying to get there way that we are even lucky we got as much to look correct as we did.
And the difference here would be that the proverbial Kevin Smith actually went ahead and birthed the monster, despite it being not even close to what the fans would actually want and expect.Example: At one point Kevin Smith and some other guy/producer were signed on to write the next Superman film back in the mid nineties. This producer guy told Kevin he could write whatever he wanted, but Superman couldn't fly, had to wear a black costume with no cape, and had to fight a giant mechanical spider. Kevin Smith rightfully backed out, and that other guy went on to make Wild Wild West.
Alas, we finally hear what would actually upset the pro-crowd: gender-bending!omegacwa wrote:No.
For example, if Vegeta is portrayed as a woman in a possible sequel, Fox can say goodbye to the little support I have given them
The better question then would be, "why look a gift horse in the mouth?"Acid_Reign wrote:Granted, but we were all doing just fine without a live-action movie. Why should we be grateful for the few odd bones they throw us when we weren’t even hungry in the first place?
It’s not a gift, though. We literally have to pay for it.SSj Kaboom wrote:The better question then would be, "why look a gift horse in the mouth?"
I meant that the story behind Dragonball Evolution seemingly parallels that of the would-be Superman movie but in this case the person in Kevin Smith’s position (Ben Ramsey, as it so happens) goes in the completely opposite direction, leaving us to witness the horror.Kendamu wrote:Proverbial? I must be reading you wrong or something. That actually happened.
Ohhhh! I get'cha now.Acid_Reign wrote:I meant that the story behind Dragonball Evolution seemingly parallels that of the would-be Superman movie but in this case the person in Kevin Smith’s position (Ben Ramsey, as it so happens) goes in the completely opposite direction, leaving us to witness the horror.Kendamu wrote:Proverbial? I must be reading you wrong or something. That actually happened.
I think that’s why this feels like such an upset for a lot of people. Super-hero movies in particular have been getting better and better, The Dark Knight being the culmination of that effort, and then… this.omegacwa wrote:You said, What effect do other movies have on this one? Well, all I am saying is that the overall quality of movies has risen a bit since the early nineties, and it's a tad bit harder to get stink balls like the Super Mario Bros movie through then it previously was, especially with the straight to DVD market now.
Well, we saw some sort of scaly-looking thing in an orange gi; I think that suggests Goku more than anyone else (unless it’s Mai, in which case, the Namekian theory might not be too far-off…)Goku actually turns into a lizard.
Does Justin Chatwin really leave any doubt in your mind?The acting is as bad as Mark Wahlberg in the Happening.
Well, they almost certainly won’t be calling it “Nyoi-bō”, so what do you prefer? “Power Pole”? I personally wouldn’t be surprised if they just called it “Grandpa’s staff”.Referring to Nyoboi as "Magic Stick"
He seems it. Would a jokester really think there was “no time to waste”?Master Roshi being dead pan serious the whole time.
I can easily see some of the things you mention creeping in. But I don’t even want to think about that, really.As for a sequel
What, and miss out on the ensuing hilarity?Kendamu wrote:But, remember, you don't have to witness it if you just don't go see it.
Oh! So this is supposed to be a Horror Comedy? That changes everything! I need to stop thinking Dragonball and start thinking Army of Darkness or something!Acid_Reign wrote:What, and miss out on the ensuing hilarity?Kendamu wrote:But, remember, you don't have to witness it if you just don't go see it.
He works at what was a parody of Wal-Mart ("Shop smart! Shop S-Mart!") and a lot of the stuff he uses to combat evil in that movie came from the store.jda95 wrote:Why does he have a chainsaw? You think he would have something supermarket related.
On Topic: I love Goku. Who loves Goku? Yay for Goku!
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