Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:13 pm

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Besides, why would they talk about it if they were talking only about Vegeta? It's not like Vegeta is anything special at this point, he is a weakling compared to the top Z-Senshi (Goku, Gohan, Gotenks, Mr. Boo) & the final villains (Majin Boo, Bills).
Not really, Vegeta is probably one of the best fighters by the end of the Majin Boo conflict. Why? Because he's simply the most practical one. Goku has Super Saiyan 3, but he can't really use it for long in the world of the living and it zaps his Ki like a draining battery, Gohan has the Ultimate form thanks to the Elder Kai Unlock Ability, and he could probably beat Vegeta (considering their both smart, though I'd still say Vegeta's more tactical), Gotenks is a fusion fighter who requires two weaker fighters to perform a dance (which can be interrupted) to form him, and even if he does come into being he tends to be such a clown that it'd stand to reason that only Super Boo's dumb self would have the patience for him and his shennanigans, and outside that he's only good for a 30-minute round. Vegeta has mastery of Super Saiyan 2 thanks to his constant training during peacetime, and even then Vegeta's techniques tend to be of the "I'll finish him off here and now" variety rather than the "Hehe, this is fun, I'll keep more of my power under wraps" way of fighting that Goku employs to keep himself entertained.
Yeah, I like Vegeta too, he is one of my favorites, but let's be honest here. Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks can defeat him with one punch. He is not that great anymore, sadly.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by worldmonsters » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:18 pm

SSJ6Goku is sort of right. I don't... care much for the bottles :p Sorry, man :p BUT, the whole discussion of is Goku SSJ3 stronger than Mystic/Ultimate Gohan? Can we please stop talking about that and give it its own topic apart from this one? I mean, fine if you think a throwaway line in a character bios on the website is canon, but let's talk about the movie. We have no idea if the movie confirms or denies it (myself, I really don't care), but let's keep this particular discussion based on the movie. Sure there could be undeniable proof in this movie that seperates Goku from Gohan in strength, but we don't know, we've talked about, it's not going anywhere, let's please please move on :o

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:20 pm

Eh his character is all that really matters but yeah it is quite irksome to see Vegeta hit 4th best if we count Gotenks. Oh well I can still hope for ssj3 at the least.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:21 pm

Why would they say "a pure Saiyan" if they literally mean "only one pure Saiyan, Vegeta". It's like saying the scan that says Gohan was power surpassing a Super Saiyan 3 only refers to one Super Saiyan 3, being Gotenks, not Goku. If that was the case, it makes far more sense to say which single person his power surpasses. Saying "power surpassing a pure Saiyan" makes way more sense to mean pure Saiyans in general than just one single one.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:24 pm

worldmonsters wrote:SSJ6Goku is sort of right. I don't... care much for the bottles :p Sorry, man :p BUT, the whole discussion of is Goku SSJ3 stronger than Mystic/Ultimate Gohan? Can we please stop talking about that and give it its own topic apart from this one? I mean, fine if you think a throwaway line in a character bios on the website is canon, but let's talk about the movie. We have no idea if the movie confirms or denies it (myself, I really don't care), but let's keep this particular discussion based on the movie. Sure there could be undeniable proof in this movie that seperates Goku from Gohan in strength, but we don't know, we've talked about, it's not going anywhere, let's please please move on :o
This discussion does involve this movie... God forbid we talk about who is stronger than who in a series filled to brim with fighting and powerscaling.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by NeoKING » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:26 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Yeah, I like Vegeta too, he is one of my favorites, but let's be honest here. Goku, Gohan, and Gotenks can defeat him with one punch. He is not that great anymore, sadly.
I don't like Vegeta - I'm just stating facts.

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Post by Marco Polo » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:31 pm

Imagine if Krillin's description was "He has power surpassing even that of an ex-bandit with scars on his face". :roll:

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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:32 pm

I'd love if Vegeta kills Uisu. :P

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Post by Jackal puFF » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:36 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I'd love if Vegeta kills Uisu. :P
Lol, that's a nice joke. But it really would be nice to give someone else the spotlight other than Goku..

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Post by worldmonsters » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:38 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
worldmonsters wrote:SSJ6Goku is sort of right. I don't... care much for the bottles :p Sorry, man :p BUT, the whole discussion of is Goku SSJ3 stronger than Mystic/Ultimate Gohan? Can we please stop talking about that and give it its own topic apart from this one? I mean, fine if you think a throwaway line in a character bios on the website is canon, but let's talk about the movie. We have no idea if the movie confirms or denies it (myself, I really don't care), but let's keep this particular discussion based on the movie. Sure there could be undeniable proof in this movie that seperates Goku from Gohan in strength, but we don't know, we've talked about, it's not going anywhere, let's please please move on :o
This discussion does involve this movie... God forbid we talk about who is stronger than who in a series filled to brim with fighting and powerscaling.
Yeah, but I was saying... this discussion is going nowhere :p And it still isn't :p

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Post by Marco Polo » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:43 pm

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Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I'd love if Vegeta kills Uisu. :P
Lol, that's a nice joke. But it really would be nice to give someone else the spotlight other than Goku..
It could be like Return of Cooler where Goku defeats the enemy in battle but Vegeta is the one who crushes whatever small fragment remains of the enemy :)

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Post by worldmonsters » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:45 pm

I wouldn't mind if Uisu kills Vegeta :angel:

Though I think that the chance of that happening is lower than Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta being in the movie... which is sort of a shame :p

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Post by JeffJarrett » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:50 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I'd love if Vegeta kills Uisu. :P
Killing a butler? What's the point?!

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Post by Saiga » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:55 pm

I don't think Uisu will fight at all. It would be nice to give someone else a victory, though.
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Post by worldmonsters » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:58 pm

Ah crap, I had them confused, I meant Bils in my post :o

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Post by CaBrPi » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:59 pm

Saiga wrote:I don't think Uisu will fight at all. It would be nice to give someone else a victory, though.
Sort of like how it was actually Gohan that delivered the final blow to Vegeta (even if it was entirely luck)? I think that'd work. Goku would still get the credit, but at least some of the others would still get part of the spotlight.

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Post by Insertclevername » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:00 pm

I wonder how will kill him though, that is if he dies at all.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:01 pm

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Saiga wrote:I don't think Uisu will fight at all. It would be nice to give someone else a victory, though.
Sort of like how it was actually Gohan that delivered the final blow to Vegeta (even if it was entirely luck)? I think that'd work. Goku would still get the credit, but at least some of the others would still get part of the spotlight.
I wasn't thinking like that. I meant that Goku fights Bils on his own, and then someone else fights Uisu, probably Vegeta or Gohan.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:04 pm

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Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I'd love if Vegeta kills Uisu. :P
Killing a butler? What's the point?!
Uisu is probably pretty powerful. I would imagine he is stronger than Good Buu.
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Post by worldmonsters » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:05 pm

Saiga wrote:
CaBrPi wrote:
Saiga wrote:I don't think Uisu will fight at all. It would be nice to give someone else a victory, though.
Sort of like how it was actually Gohan that delivered the final blow to Vegeta (even if it was entirely luck)? I think that'd work. Goku would still get the credit, but at least some of the others would still get part of the spotlight.
I wasn't thinking like that. I meant that Goku fights Bils on his own, and then someone else fights Uisu, probably Vegeta or Gohan.
I would like this very much. Or like CaBrPi said a kind of collaboration victory :p

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