"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by mecha3000 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:51 pm

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Why wouldn't they use audio from Kai? Super's more of a sequel to Kai anyways rather than the original Z, plus it's a better dub. The only reason, I'm sure, they used DB & Z audio for BOG was because of the nostalgic Z fans who haven't watched, or don't care for, Kai. It was a reunion movie anyways with the flashback being in the extended TV version, so it makes sense.
I mean, I figured they would probably use the Kai audio, but I still find it interesting to think a redub is now the definitive dub. Still, in the first episode of Super - The narrator (Doc Morgan) says LAST TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z, not Kai. So, Funimation is basically selling this as a sequel to Dragon Ball Z more so than Kai. But I still realize that this was a creative choice for nostalgia reasons.
Well, I mean, the actors, & a good chunk of the fandom, do consider Kai to BE the official dub of Z, plus Kai has Z as a part of its moniker outside of Japan, so it's not like it doesn't make sense.
Yeah, that's basically how I see it. Kai is basically Z for a new era and if you ignore that Kai brand name, it basically is just Dragon Ball Z.

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Post by Scsigs » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:15 pm

mecha3000 wrote:
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I mean, I figured they would probably use the Kai audio, but I still find it interesting to think a redub is now the definitive dub. Still, in the first episode of Super - The narrator (Doc Morgan) says LAST TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z, not Kai. So, Funimation is basically selling this as a sequel to Dragon Ball Z more so than Kai. But I still realize that this was a creative choice for nostalgia reasons.
Well, I mean, the actors, & a good chunk of the fandom, do consider Kai to BE the official dub of Z, plus Kai has Z as a part of its moniker outside of Japan, so it's not like it doesn't make sense.
Yeah, that's basically how I see it. Kai is basically Z for a new era and if you ignore that Kai brand name, it basically is just Dragon Ball Z.
Minus 95% of the shitty filler that weighed it down.
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Post by precita » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:25 pm

Most DBZ filler was good, at least outside the Namek arc.

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Post by Scsigs » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:31 pm

precita wrote:Most DBZ filler was good, at least outside the Namek arc.
The only filler I actually liked was the Otherworld Tournament after the Cell Games because at least that was entertaining. Then again, I just hate pointless filler in anything, especially anime, unless it's stuff that the manga author wanted in the manga, but couldn't due to time constraints with the publishing of the chapters.
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Post by precita » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:33 pm

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precita wrote:Most DBZ filler was good, at least outside the Namek arc.
The only filler I actually liked was the Otherworld Tournament after the Cell Games because at least that was entertaining. Then again, I just hate pointless filler in anything, especially anime, unless it's stuff that the manga author wanted in the manga, but couldn't due to time constraints with the publishing of the chapters.
Most fillers expand the universe far better than the manga does, which is often too rushed.

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Post by Scsigs » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:54 pm

precita wrote:
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precita wrote:Most DBZ filler was good, at least outside the Namek arc.
The only filler I actually liked was the Otherworld Tournament after the Cell Games because at least that was entertaining. Then again, I just hate pointless filler in anything, especially anime, unless it's stuff that the manga author wanted in the manga, but couldn't due to time constraints with the publishing of the chapters.
Most fillers expand the universe far better than the manga does, which is often too rushed.
Depends on what you're talking here. If it's Dragon Ball, I agree with most of the first series, as that filler actually felt like stuff Toriyama would've written if he had the time. DBZ...no. A ton of the filler was devoted to fight scenes that weren't in the manga, unnecessary amounts of talking, & standoffs, or power ups. Much like Sailor Moon Crystal which, in addition to taking out ALL of the filler from the original anime, I appreciated the characters better because they don't all come off as giant tools. Not to mention that every section in Hell from Z is negated in RF due to it being the interpretation of being personalized Hells rather than one general spirit realm that Z introduced.
The Garlic Junior filler is pointless, hence why I love how Team Four Star skipped over it in DBZA, the Otherworld Tournament, as I said already, was fun, & any other filler was just bad in Z. I prefer how Super does its filler, in between arcs to give a little break & fun adventures with the characters in various situations. That's why i like the Otherworld Tournament, that was a good bit of in-between fluff before the Buu Saga. Plus Pikkon. That is all.
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:34 am

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:38 am

Oh yeah, forgot to mention. Minus Goten, the voices are getting more consistent. Goten's still too high pitched for my liking, but everyone else is settling in nicely who weren't quite comfortable at the start. Chi Chi's much improved over Episode 1.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:08 pm

mecha3000 wrote:
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mecha3000 wrote:I found it interesting how in this latest dubbed episode, for the flashback from when King Kai was killed - They used the Kai audio/version. I'm not sure if it was that way for the Japanese version, but it's almost like Funimation telling you "Kai is the TRUE definitive dubbed version of Z". Also, I like how Krillin said: "Putting a car in my pocket never gets old". Pretty amusing line that I'm not sure was in the original (I think in the original, Krillin LITERALLY explained to the audience the process of putting a car into a capsule, which is something I didn't care for because it felt like a kids show dialogue).

Still can't wait to own the series for myself though, because although it's nostalgic - I'm getting tired of having to wait every Saturday night (when I have work the very next morning) to catch Super AND Kai. I really hope Super releases sometime close to OR after Kai comes out on Blu-Ray/DVD.
Why wouldn't they use audio from Kai? Super's more of a sequel to Kai anyways rather than the original Z, plus it's a better dub. The only reason, I'm sure, they used DB & Z audio for BOG was because of the nostalgic Z fans who haven't watched, or don't care for, Kai. It was a reunion movie anyways with the flashback being in the extended TV version, so it makes sense.
I mean, I figured they would probably use the Kai audio, but I still find it interesting to think a redub is now the definitive dub. Still, in the first episode of Super - The narrator (Doc Morgan) says LAST TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z, not Kai. So, Funimation is basically selling this as a sequel to Dragon Ball Z more so than Kai. But I still realize that this was a creative choice for nostalgia reasons.
It wasn't. Kai TFC never aired or had been seen saying last time on Dragon Ball Z Kai wouldn't have made sense at all. Since that was the battle with Cell. Z Kai is still Z so it works.

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:18 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
mecha3000 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they use audio from Kai? Super's more of a sequel to Kai anyways rather than the original Z, plus it's a better dub. The only reason, I'm sure, they used DB & Z audio for BOG was because of the nostalgic Z fans who haven't watched, or don't care for, Kai. It was a reunion movie anyways with the flashback being in the extended TV version, so it makes sense.
I mean, I figured they would probably use the Kai audio, but I still find it interesting to think a redub is now the definitive dub. Still, in the first episode of Super - The narrator (Doc Morgan) says LAST TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z, not Kai. So, Funimation is basically selling this as a sequel to Dragon Ball Z more so than Kai. But I still realize that this was a creative choice for nostalgia reasons.
It wasn't. Kai TFC never aired or had been seen saying last time on Dragon Ball Z Kai wouldn't have made sense at all. Since that was the battle with Cell. Z Kai is still Z so it works.
Does it even really matter that Kai TFC didn't air before Super for them to have put in "previously on Dragon Ball Z: Kai"? Any DB fan worth their salt, unless they watch the original Z out of nostalgia, is going to go from Kai to Super when rewatching the shows after they're out on Blu-Ray, so it would maintain consistency, but since Kai is, literally, Z with all most of the filler removed, it's not like it's that bad.
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Post by Marty Kirra » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:34 pm

I'm super glad Meredith McCoy is back.

That's all I've got really. I love the dub so far!

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Post by nato25 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:14 am

Yes she is the only 18 to me.

The dub is definitely getting back into the swing of it. The voices for Beerus and Whis are amazing, those guys have great acting and voice talent for sure, especially Whis. I know they are coming from Battle of Gods but they sound consistent and have sounded magnificent from the very start.

The only thing that caught me off guard was Chi Chi saying to Bulma happy birthday girl! As if she was trying way too hard to be hip. Isn't Chi Chi like 45 or close to it here lol

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Post by Scsigs » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:18 am

nato25 wrote:Yes she is the only 18 to me.

The dub is definitely getting back into the swing of it. The voices for Beerus and Whis are amazing, those guys have great acting and voice talent for sure, especially Whis. I know they are coming from Battle of Gods but they sound consistent and have sounded magnificent from the very start.

The only thing that caught me off guard was Chi Chi saying to Bulma happy birthday girl! As if she was trying way too hard to be hip. Isn't Chi Chi like 45 or close to it here lol
Chi Chi's actually closer to Goku's age, if not the same age as him. Bulma's 38 by the time the party rolls around, so she's actually in her early-mid 30s. We forgetting the original Dragon Ball series now?
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Post by nato25 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:25 am

My bad I was factoring in end of Z which of course hasn't happened yet and Chi Chi has just always seemed older than Bulma from Z onwards by virtue of design. I've watched and rewatched the original a couple of times at least.

I feel the dub may have taken slightly too many liberties with the script this episode. Rewatching the original subs and Chi Chi just says congratulations Bulma which seems much more in her character.

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:15 am

Scsigs wrote:
nato25 wrote:The only thing that caught me off guard was Chi Chi saying to Bulma happy birthday girl! As if she was trying way too hard to be hip. Isn't Chi Chi like 45 or close to it here lol
Chi Chi's actually closer to Goku's age, if not the same age as him. Bulma's 38 by the time the party rolls around, so she's actually in her early-mid 30s. We forgetting the original Dragon Ball series now?
Bulma was born in Age 733, Chi Chi was born in Age 737 (same year as Goku), the events of Battle of Gods occur in Age 778. Chi Chi should be 41 and Bulma should be 45. Seems Bulma has taken to lying about her age... Or Toriyama just sucks at math. One or the other. (These years are taken from the timeline in Chouzenshuu 4, published in May 2013.)

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:55 pm

Solid solid dub, but King Kai was a blabbering mess Sean seems to getting worse I'd even say S3 Sean's King Kai was better! Beerus and Whis are such a delight! Maybe retellings are not bad helps everyone get back in the groove of things.

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Scsigs wrote:
nato25 wrote:Yes she is the only 18 to me.

The dub is definitely getting back into the swing of it. The voices for Beerus and Whis are amazing, those guys have great acting and voice talent for sure, especially Whis. I know they are coming from Battle of Gods but they sound consistent and have sounded magnificent from the very start.

The only thing that caught me off guard was Chi Chi saying to Bulma happy birthday girl! As if she was trying way too hard to be hip. Isn't Chi Chi like 45 or close to it here lol
Chi Chi's actually closer to Goku's age, if not the same age as him. Bulma's 38 by the time the party rolls around, so she's actually in her early-mid 30s. We forgetting the original Dragon Ball series now?
Bulma's 44 turning 45 in Super, she lied about her age.

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Post by Noah » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:32 pm

When Episode 5?
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Post by Scsigs » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:25 pm

Noah wrote:When Episode 5?
Can't check TV Guide,, or Wikipedia?
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:43 am

Noah wrote:When Episode 5?
Episode 4 is this weekend, so the weekend after.

Going to be a drag having to sit through that again, even with the fixed art.
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