"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[ObnoxiousNamek]

if it wasn't for the PS2 game Super Dragon Ball Z, I'd probably pass on Chi Chi, but she was really solid in that game. She'd be a great addition in Fighterz. And of course King Piccolo, but what I would really like to show up in a season 4 patch is Kid Gohan. They could give him a rage mechanic that happens if he's tagged in after his ally is defeated, like the sparking blast except shorter, though like Golden Freeza, you could activate sparking blast and have the rage boost combined with it for awhile.

Eh idk I’m down for different characters a big complaint of this game is that everyone plays the same and the amount of clone characters. There are other characters that aren’t as popular & that aren’t saiyans that should be added due to the fact that they can serve in differentiating the roster & play style rather than just ki blast character #15 cause he’s popular.FighterZ is beginning to fall into the Budokai 3 pitfall in regards to roster

[DBZAOTA482]

if it wasn't for the PS2 game Super Dragon Ball Z, I'd probably pass on Chi Chi, but she was really solid in that game. She'd be a great addition in Fighterz. And of course King Piccolo, but what I would really like to show up in a season 4 patch is Kid Gohan. They could give him a rage mechanic that happens if he's tagged in after his ally is defeated, like the sparking blast except shorter, though like Golden Freeza, you could activate sparking blast and have the rage boost combined with it for awhile.

Eh idk I’m down for different characters a big complaint of this game is that everyone plays the same and the amount of clone characters. There are other characters that aren’t as popular & that aren’t saiyans that should be added due to the fact that they can serve in differentiating the roster & play style rather than just ki blast character #15 cause he’s popular.FighterZ is beginning to fall into the Budokai 3 pitfall in regards to roster

You mean Tenkaichi 3 because Budokai 3 hardly has any redundant characters.

[DBZAOTA482]

if it wasn't for the PS2 game Super Dragon Ball Z, I'd probably pass on Chi Chi, but she was really solid in that game. She'd be a great addition in Fighterz. And of course King Piccolo, but what I would really like to show up in a season 4 patch is Kid Gohan. They could give him a rage mechanic that happens if he's tagged in after his ally is defeated, like the sparking blast except shorter, though like Golden Freeza, you could activate sparking blast and have the rage boost combined with it for awhile.

I admit the main reason I want her in is because of Super DBZ but she has enough material between the anime and manga to where they can do something a little different.

She'd probably be another Videl focusing more on close-combat and having very little range.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Dragon Ball FighterZ World Cup Finals indefinetely postponed due to Covid-19.

[NickLord]

Dragon Ball FighterZ World Cup Finals indefinetely postponed due to Covid-19.

Covid-19 has really screwed over the entire FGC

[NickLord]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

[LightBing]

Covid-19 has really screwed over the entire FGC

It's probably a net positive since without it, Japanese companies wouldn't have been forced to put rollback in their games.

It pretty much guarantees DBFZ2 will have rollback, that's pretty huge.

[Grimlock]

Do you guys agree or disagree?

I don't think it's a matter of "agree" or "disagree". Once you have Saiyan saga Goku and Vegeta "relative to Movie 14 Goku" ( ) and a Bardock who can transform into Super Saiyan weaker than Yamcha (and Ginyu too) and on the same level as Nappa, among other egregious stuff, this is more of the list being outright incorrect.

Mind to provide any reasoning behind this?

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit

What's that even supposed to mean?

[MCDaveG]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

You mean just the in-game existing characters tier listed based on manga/anime power theory and not by how useful are they in the actual game? If so, it’s kinda pointless list.

But based on my online experience, Gogeta, UI Goku and Super Broly are definitely in the top tier.

[NickLord]

Do you guys agree or disagree?

I don't think it's a matter of "agree" or "disagree". Once you have Saiyan saga Goku and Vegeta "relative to Movie 14 Goku" ( ) and a Bardock who can transform into Super Saiyan weaker than Yamcha (and Ginyu too) among other egregious stuff, this is more of the list being outright incorrect.

Mind to provide any reasoning behind this?

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit

What's that even supposed to mean?

The story of DBFZ takes place after the Goku Black arc of Super, so the base forms of Goku and Vegeta in the game are obviously not the ones from the Saiyan saga, plus the tier list on Reddit said that its since the Granolah arc.

Just because Bardock could go SSJ1 in EoB doesn't mean he's on par with Namek arc SSJ Goku. Transformations are multipliers not tiers and base Bardock in Z was only around 10,000 in PL.

Yamcha is easily stronger than every character weaker than Namek saga Final Form Freeza, thanks to his training for the Androids and afterwards.

[NickLord]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

You mean just the in-game existing characters tier listed based on manga/anime power theory and not by how useful are they in the actual game? If so, it’s kinda pointless list.

But based on my online experience, Gogeta, UI Goku and Super Broly are definitely in the top tier.

The best characters gameplay wise since Season 4 are easily Android 21, Z Broly, SSJ4 Gogeta and Kid Buu. Super Broly and SSB Gogeta are considered mediocre by pros.

[Grimlock]

so the base forms of Goku and Vegeta in the game are obviously not the ones from the Saiyan saga,.

"Obviously"? Those images of base Goku and Vegeta are from Saiyan saga, they were advertised as such, they look as such, they are as such. You should elaborate more on the point of a list like this and clarify the specificity, as I'm not even sure if this is based on gameplay or if you're using the characters from the game as if they belong to the series.

Just because Bardock could go SSJ1 in EoB doesn't mean he's on par with Namek arc SSJ Goku. Transformations are multipliers not tiers and base Bardock in Z was only around 10,000 in PL.

Indeed, except Bardock wasn't put "on par with Super Saiyan Goku". He is, nonetheless, stronger than Yamcha and Ginyu. Also, Bardock didn't have a power level of ten thousand prior to transforming. He got hit by Freeza's attack before being sent back in time, he was healed once he arrived in the past and therefore he got zenkai. He no longer had a power level of ten thousand by the time he faces Chilled.

[Xeogran]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

Gogeta SS4 is on SSB Gogeta level according to FighterZ creators themselves, seeing the Dramatic Finish.
He should be waay higher on that list.

[The Accountant]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

1. Yamcha really shouldn't be that low.

2. I'm assuming this tier list is based on some Super material, right? It always baffles me how F'd up the powerscaling is.

[Yuji]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

Definitely very anime based and only assuming the God base thing hasn't been retconned, which it most definitely has. Also not sure about Z Broly's placement. Yamcha is also stronger than Roshi, as per the manga.

[Koitsukai]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

From my experience with the game, that doesn't add up. SS4 Gogeta is a beast, so are Kid Buu and Z Broly.

For the anime, it kinda works, although Vegito and Zamasu should be close to each other. Also Kefla is waaaay above blue saiyans, and only, Gogeta, Vegeta Baby and GT Goku are stronger than Buuhan from that B tier. Broly ain't beating Majin Vegeta.
SS4 Gogeta should be relative to BoG Goku or above Golden Freeza.
Fat Buu relative to BoG Goku is also crazy, like when? maybe for the Moro arc, not the anime. And Roshi is not stronger than Semi Perfect Cell in any media.
If it was for the manga, I could see A+ tier making sense but Gohan should be up there too, but Beerus should be on a new Z++ tier of his own.

It looks like a blend of every media, like if the anime were to come back and they were trying to stay truthful to the anime and manga.

[NickLord]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

Gogeta SS4 is on SSB Gogeta level according to FighterZ creators themselves, seeing the Dramatic Finish.
He should be waay higher on that list.

The Gogeta vs Gogeta Dramatic finish is just for show, its not based on any powerscaling or actual canon since it never happened in the series itself.

Based on actual powerscaling, GT Gogeta is only at best comparable to SSG Goku from Battle of Gods.

[NickLord]

Here's a "canon" tier list of DBFZ from Reddit based on powerscaling. Do you guys agree or disagree?
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonballfigh ... nolah_arc/

From my experience with the game, that doesn't add up. SS4 Gogeta is a beast, so are Kid Buu and Z Broly.

For the anime, it kinda works, although Vegito and Zamasu should be close to each other. Also Kefla is waaaay above blue saiyans, and only, Gogeta, Vegeta Baby and GT Goku are stronger than Buuhan from that B tier. Broly ain't beating Majin Vegeta.
SS4 Gogeta should be relative to BoG Goku or above Golden Freeza.
Fat Buu relative to BoG Goku is also crazy, like when? maybe for the Moro arc, not the anime. And Roshi is not stronger than Semi Perfect Cell in any media.
If it was for the manga, I could see A+ tier making sense but Gohan should be up there too, but Beerus should be on a new Z++ tier of his own.

It looks like a blend of every media, like if the anime were to come back and they were trying to stay truthful to the anime and manga.

- Current Vegito should be waayyyy above Merged Zamasu by now, since Vegito = Gogeta.

- Normal SSB Vegeta in ep.122 alone was able to create a Final Flash more powerful than the U7 Spirit Bomb, which is said to be equal to SSJ1 Kefla in power. Based on that and their increases in power since the Moro arc, Normal SSB Goku & Vegeta should be above Kefla by now.

- According to the actual writer and director of the 13 Z movies (Koyama), Z Broly was written to be the strongest character in the whole franchise prior to Battle of Gods (the whole thing about each movie villain being stronger than the last is a fandom myth), and he has feats to back it up like him wiping out a quarter of the mortal universe without using his LSSJ form. He ain't just Cell level lol.

- Good Buu in the ToP anime was able to put pressure on Goku (who should be way above his BoG arc self) while they were sparring before the ToP started.

- Based on feats, both Krillin & Roshi are way above Super Perfect Cell since the ToP anime.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Currently FighterZ and its various DLCs are under sale on Steam until Feb.3

[Koitsukai]

- Current Vegito should be waayyyy above Merged Zamasu by now, since Vegito = Gogeta.

- Normal SSB Vegeta in ep.122 alone was able to create a Final Flash more powerful than the U7 Spirit Bomb, which is said to be equal to SSJ1 Kefla in power. Based on that and their increases in power since the Moro arc, Normal SSB Goku & Vegeta should be above Kefla by now.

- According to the actual writer and director of the 13 Z movies (Koyama), Z Broly was written to be the strongest character in the whole franchise prior to Battle of Gods (the whole thing about each movie villain being stronger than the last is a fandom myth), and he has feats to back it up like him wiping out a quarter of the mortal universe without using his LSSJ form. He ain't just Cell level lol.

- Good Buu in the ToP anime was able to put pressure on Goku (who should be way above his BoG arc self) while they were sparring before the ToP started.

- Based on feats, both Krillin & Roshi are way above Super Perfect Cell since the ToP anime.

This sounds like a conversation for another thread, so I'll be brief:

-Nobody talks about Vegito Blue with current hypothetical Vegito Blue in mind, if you include him you are talking about the existing FT arc iteration, otherwise there's no need to include him, you already have Gogeta to represent him.

- So, it's the most current version of each character. In the manga they were already on that level or above her during the ToP.

- That's useless commentary, he was not portrayed to be stronger than the guy who beat him at that moment. So, too bad for Koyama, should've written a whole different movie to back up his claims.
Z Broly is what we saw, below a friendship-aided SS from the Cell arc. And not even strong enough to overpower SS Goku, SS Gohan and SS Goten from early Buu saga, no matter how many galaxies he blew up. Majin Vegeta kills him.

- Buu fought base Goku, he was not above SSG Goku lol. Anime filler scaling goes out the window when the real arcs land.

-Mm what? god no.