"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

I want it as a video game now haha. Although if the anime did it, a lot of people would be complaining.

Speaking as a man who complains a lot, it means something when I say people need to quit their bitching sometimes.

People praise the driving episode as one of the best fillers. I don't know where this whole "if it was the anime people would hate it" talk is coming from, because it's completely false.

That was DBZ's anime. This is dB super. Some people try to act like the anime is shit and the manga is godly while protecting the manga no matter the flaws. I can understand preferring the manga, but I think a lot of people on here tend to overexaggerate.

[nite_jay]

That was DBZ's anime. This is dB super. Some people try to act like the anime is shit and the manga is godly while protecting the manga no matter the flaws. I can understand preferring the manga, but I think a lot of people on here tend to overexaggerate.

Yeah people would probably call it a "lazy rehash" or something. lol

[zamasu121]

Speaking as a man who complains a lot, it means something when I say people need to quit their bitching sometimes.

People praise the driving episode as one of the best fillers. I don't know where this whole "if it was the anime people would hate it" talk is coming from, because it's completely false.

That was DBZ's anime. This is dB super. Some people try to act like the anime is shit and the manga is godly while protecting the manga no matter the flaws. I can understand preferring the manga, but I think a lot of people on here tend to overexaggerate.

while i think the manga is more consistent and usually explains thing better there is one thing the anime does better this arc and thats character development.
i feel like the manga is butchering zamasu's character i mean in the anime he gets character development and we see how angry he is with mortals while in the manga he is like a robot with no feelings.
also future trunks is thinking like:''so what if black killed my mother and mai hmm he might be killing more people but i dont care I'm just happy i can enjoy this video game''
hopefully I'm mistaken and zamasu will show some emotions this time and maybe that trunks thing would fit in the context of the story

[Noah]

Goku and Black need to stay away from each other in the present. It's their meeting that starts the whole causal loop plot hole in the anime.

Why? I thought the problem was actually Black being the same Zamasu from the present timeline

Go-karts happens after Zamasu and Gowasu return from the barbarian thing. Go karts is a game console game they were playing. Kid Trunks wins followed by Future Trunks, Beerus, Goku, Pilaf, Mai, the racoon dog and Vegeta. Next is the KamiTube scene with that weird computer, followed by Future Trunks & Vegeta training. Goku does some separate training too, then as shown in the pics they head to Zeno.

Please tell me this isn't the whole chapter, I mean they can cover so much more...

I don't know where this whole "if it was the anime people would hate it" talk is coming from, because it's completely false.

Well, considering that some people may think that this would tone down things a little, since Future Trunks don't have time to waste but to find a way to defeat Black and he is quite happy there ignoring the fact that his world is in perish, not a complaint I would love a Kart Racing filler, but with some context.

[TheMikado]

People praise the driving episode as one of the best fillers. I don't know where this whole "if it was the anime people would hate it" talk is coming from, because it's completely false.

That was DBZ's anime. This is dB super. Some people try to act like the anime is shit and the manga is godly while protecting the manga no matter the flaws. I can understand preferring the manga, but I think a lot of people on here tend to overexaggerate.

while i think the manga is more consistent and usually explains thing better there is one thing the anime does better this arc and thats character development.
i feel like the manga is butchering zamasu's character i mean in the anime he gets character development and we see how angry he is with mortals while in the manga he is like a robot with no feelings.
also future trunks is thinking like:''so what if black killed my mother and mai hmm he might be killing more people but i dont care I'm just happy i can enjoy this video game''
hopefully I'm mistaken and zamasu will show some emotions this time and maybe that trunks thing would fit in the context of the story

I'm not sure how they butchered it if they haven't even gotten to the point where Zamasu is angry at mortals in the manga. He hasnt even taken his to trip to the future yet. Also I hear what you're saying about Trunks but we don't know the circumstances. This game could take the place or the rivalry scene with lil Trunks challenging big Trunks etc. let's wait for context. But I agree if he's not worried about home that would be poor writing.

[OLKv3]

You guys are forgetting that everyone is waiting for the time machine to fill up remember? It's not like Trunks is goofing off, he's just having fun waiting for the time machine. In the anime, he went and visited Gohan and trained with Vegeta

[zamasu121]

That was DBZ's anime. This is dB super. Some people try to act like the anime is shit and the manga is godly while protecting the manga no matter the flaws. I can understand preferring the manga, but I think a lot of people on here tend to overexaggerate.

while i think the manga is more consistent and usually explains thing better there is one thing the anime does better this arc and thats character development.
i feel like the manga is butchering zamasu's character i mean in the anime he gets character development and we see how angry he is with mortals while in the manga he is like a robot with no feelings.
also future trunks is thinking like:''so what if black killed my mother and mai hmm he might be killing more people but i dont care I'm just happy i can enjoy this video game''
hopefully I'm mistaken and zamasu will show some emotions this time and maybe that trunks thing would fit in the context of the story

I'm not sure how they butchered it if they haven't even gotten to the point where Zamasu is angry at mortals in the manga. He hasnt even taken his to trip to the future yet. Also I hear what you're saying about Trunks but we don't know the circumstances. This game could take the place or the rivalry scene with lil Trunks challenging big Trunks etc. let's wait for context. But I agree if he's not worried about home that would be poor writing.

thats why i said i hope I'm mistaken because when zamasu heard about a mortal strong enough to defeat buu he does not seem angry but hopefully he would get angry while seeing goku on godtube that should at least give him some character

[YonkouProductions]

Its a good chapter



https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/7 ... 4401795072

[ekrolo2]

While I think the manga is an overall better product, I think the anime has the same advantage over it Z did over the DB manga: it manages to give scenes a certain punch to them. For example, Goku's transformation into Super Saiyan is an instantaneous thing, as if we've seen it a million times by then while the anime made it a point to show it as slow burn before he exploded. Both work for various reasons we can argue about here all day but the anime definitely has a track record for giving scenes a certain dramatic punch the manga often lacks.

A similar situation is here where Toyotaro is the more consistent guy both story and power wise but nothing he's done thus far has the same punch as Goku using Kaio-Ken again (as stupid that scene is, I can't deny that its a treat to watch). This might be just because Toyotaro still doesn't have the time or perhaps the talent to give some scenes more of that dramatic punch but I will say this, his reveal of Black remains one of the best moments we've gotten out of modern DB.

[Kanassa]

The paradox is not a plot hole, it's the back bone of the plot. Time paradoxes are a common plot device in time travel stories, the existence of a paradox is not a plot hole.

What is this paradox you are talking about, I don´t get it. We have future Trunks and Black travelling back to the present starting the Beerus/Whis investigation on Zamasu. We know this event leads to Zamasu getting killed by Beerus. What are the events that lead to the creation of Black? It can´t be the same that we saw obviously, unless Zamasu already secretly wished to duplicate himself and has yet to kill Gowasu later.

All we knw about the circumstances of the timeline in which Black came to be is that Zamasu and Goku did fight in that timeline, but the events that play out in the current timeline seem to imply that this fight would happen even without Trunk arriving to spur the investigation with Zamasu, as Zamasu will still catch Gowasu watching Goku's fight with Hit on Godtube; and then go to find out more about Goku. Though it would do the anime good to explain this more, it doesn't contradict the story.

[OLKv3]

Its a good chapter



https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/7 ... 4401795072

Now this I like.

[ryou766]

Lol, I see Beerus' ears covering the first half of Pilaf's name - only revealing "AF". Don't know if intentional or not, but nice one, Toyotaro.

[kinisking]

While I think the manga is an overall better product, I think the anime has the same advantage over it Z did over the DB manga: it manages to give scenes a certain punch to them. For example, Goku's transformation into Super Saiyan is an instantaneous thing, as if we've seen it a million times by then while the anime made it a point to show it as slow burn before he exploded. Both work for various reasons we can argue about here all day but the anime definitely has a track record for giving scenes a certain dramatic punch the manga often lacks.

A similar situation is here where Toyotaro is the more consistent guy both story and power wise but nothing he's done thus far has the same punch as Goku using Kaio-Ken again (as stupid that scene is, I can't deny that its a treat to watch). This might be just because Toyotaro still doesn't have the time or perhaps the talent to give some scenes more of that dramatic punch but I will say this, his reveal of Black remains one of the best moments we've gotten out of modern DB.

I can agree with this. I actually prefer the manga, but all these fanboys of it is starting to make me like it less. Makes me want to look for it's flaws tbh.

[Noah]

Why Trunks is training in a sweater? It would be better with his black tank

Interesting to note that video game match confirms that people may aware about Pilaf Gang (names), but they don't give a f*** lol

[ryou766]

but all these fanboys of it is starting to make me like it less. Makes me want to look for it's flaws tbh.

Smh, so you're the type to allow fanboys to influence how you see the story?

[Gowasum]

Its a good chapter

https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/7 ... 4401795072

Wth, was this a real race or a video game. Not sure. But we saw Goku and Vegeta even a few pages ago, so I suspect Goku did something to Vegeta.. Kakarott is a step ahead oh him as always.

All we knw about the circumstances of the timeline in which Black came to be is that Zamasu and Goku did fight in that timeline, but the events that play out in the current timeline seem to imply that this fight would happen even without Trunk arriving to spur the investigation with Zamasu, as Zamasu will still catch Gowasu watching Goku's fight with Hit on Godtube; and then go to find out more about Goku. Though it would do the anime good to explain this more, it doesn't contradict the story.

I agree, but the guy was talking about paradoxes that are apparently explained in the anime.. which didn´t make sense and I just described of what would need to happen for it to be a paradox.

[Kanassa]

Also, Trunks's kart is labled 'T2'. Trunks 2... Or Terminator 2: Judgement day. Coincidence!?

[kinisking]

but all these fanboys of it is starting to make me like it less. Makes me want to look for it's flaws tbh.

Smh, so you're the type to allow fanboys to influence how you see the story?

In this case, yes. I still enjoy it but I'm more critical now.

[Bansho64]

but all these fanboys of it is starting to make me like it less. Makes me want to look for it's flaws tbh.

Smh, so you're the type to allow fanboys to influence how you see the story?

In this case, yes. I still enjoy it but I'm more critical now.

Why though? Are you intentionally trying to tick these "fanboys" off by looking for the flaws?

That's like me as a Tupac fan being overly critical of P Diddy and Biggie tracks, just because their "fanboys" may anger me. It would make no sense. I may like not like some of the fans but I'm not gonna take it out on those two's music. That's not fair to them at all. I'm gonna hold those two to the same standard I hold Pac and make my own opinions about their music, regardless of their "fanboys".

[simtek34]

More Go-Karts

(I don't know if this has been posted already, I'm a little behind.)


I just realized this, but shouldn't Zamasu get a copyright strike and a removed link for pirating the Goku v Hit fight on KamiTube and showing footage on Kanzenshuu?