"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[WittyUsername]

I don’t see what hook a sequel could realistically have.

[DBZAOTA482]

I don’t see what hook a sequel could realistically have.

The very fact it expands on the foundation of DBFZ is the hook.

Dunno why you ask these questions.

[WittyUsername]

I don’t see what hook a sequel could realistically have.

The very fact it expands on the foundation of DBFZ is the hook.

Dunno why you ask these questions.

Often times, when it comes to fighting game sequels for something like Dragon Ball, a large part of the hook is all the additional content that the game is supposed to have when compared to its predecessor, particularly seeing what new characters they include. What new things would an FZ2 have that would get people interested?

[DBZAOTA482]

I don’t see what hook a sequel could realistically have.

The very fact it expands on the foundation of DBFZ is the hook.

Dunno why you ask these questions.

Often times, when it comes to fighting game sequels for something like Dragon Ball, a large part of the hook is all the additional content that the game is supposed to have when compared to its predecessor, particularly seeing what new characters they include. What new things would an FZ2 have that would get people interested?

More and better single-player content, crossplay, co-op across all platforms, better rollback netcode implementation (due to being a whole new game), and there are plenty of characters left that are highly requested and have potential for good movesets.

They could also can make major changes to the mechanics like making superdash less janky and autocombos less braindead. They could even flesh-out characters' movesets.

There's a lot of things they can with a sequel.

[WittyUsername]

The very fact it expands on the foundation of DBFZ is the hook.

Dunno why you ask these questions.

Often times, when it comes to fighting game sequels for something like Dragon Ball, a large part of the hook is all the additional content that the game is supposed to have when compared to its predecessor, particularly seeing what new characters they include. What new things would an FZ2 have that would get people interested?

More and better single-player content, crossplay, co-op across all platforms, better rollback netcode implementation (due to being a whole new game), and there are plenty of characters left that are highly requested and have potential for good movesets.

They could also can make major changes to the mechanics like making superdash less janky and autocombos less braindead. They could even flesh-out characters' movesets.

There's a lot of things they can with a sequel.

Like who? I think Anonymous Friend pretty much hit the nail on the head in saying that most of the noteworthy fighters have already been covered at this point. Most of us were surprised to see Baby as a DLC over Yi Xing Long/Omega Shenron, but his gameplay is unique enough that it makes sense in hindsight. I don’t see what other fighters there are left who could drum up much interest, outside of characters and forms from the new movie, and maybe Moro, Granolah and Ultra Ego Vegeta, if we ever see an animated adaptation for them, or if Bandai is desperate.

[DBZAOTA482]

Often times, when it comes to fighting game sequels for something like Dragon Ball, a large part of the hook is all the additional content that the game is supposed to have when compared to its predecessor, particularly seeing what new characters they include. What new things would an FZ2 have that would get people interested?

More and better single-player content, crossplay, co-op across all platforms, better rollback netcode implementation (due to being a whole new game), and there are plenty of characters left that are highly requested and have potential for good movesets.

They could also can make major changes to the mechanics like making superdash less janky and autocombos less braindead. They could even flesh-out characters' movesets.

There's a lot of things they can with a sequel.

Like who? I think Anonymous Friend pretty much hit the nail on the head in saying that most of the noteworthy fighters have already been covered at this point. Most of us were surprised to see Baby as a DLC over Yi Xing Long/Omega Shenron, but his gameplay is unique enough that it makes sense in hindsight. I don’t see what other fighters there are left who could drum up much interest, outside of characters and forms from the new movie, and maybe Moro, Granolah and Ultra Ego Vegeta, if we ever see an animated adaptation for them, or if Bandai is desperate.

Raditz, Dabura, Pikkon, Omega Shenron, Toppo, Caulifla, and Mr. Satan are all highly requested characters that they could add.

[Jord]

The gameplay is good but there is room for expansion with more modes, like a decent single player mode.

Story mode was a nice attempt but fighting clones got boring fast.
The arcade mode just scaled cpu damage output instead of turning op their AI.

I would also like to see more balanced 1 on 1 or handicap matches. It was a nice addition in FighterZ but due to a lack of balance not being very fun. If they figure out a balance and make picking a single (stronger) character a viable option instead of a team, it could lead to new and interesting matches.

The roster in FighterZ is great but there are always characters that could be added.

[LightBing]

I can see a lot of people complaining when FighterZ 2 starts with 16/20 characters.

A sequel won't continue the roster, it will reinvent the game. Even characters bound to return won't be the same since mechanics will be modified, removed or added.

The newcomers will probably be something from the new movie like Gamma 1/2. Perhaps someone from the manga like Moro. Maybe a exclusive game character like #21 was.
Goku and Vegeta are certain to be addressed differently.

The conversation should be: "who will be in the starting roster of FighterZ 2"?

[MCDaveG]

So, this game has pretty much every character anyone would want in a Dragonball game. Everyone also list that same handfull of "characters that are missiing. A potential sequel can't jut make up some new characters just to fill slots. And DLC for the sequel would have you rebuying all the same characters you bought in the first game, or *audioinhale* some who were part of the base roster. Most modern fighting game sequels strive to give you a decent amount of new characters to accompany the returning ones. I don't really see any of the missing characters not in this game getting people too hyped about being in the starting roster over base roster and dlc roster from this game. If Arksys is still the dev for this, maybe they have dealt with this in their other series. I've never played or really follow their fighetrs.

But what i was considering, what if the next FighterZ game is not a Dragonball games, but some other super popular anime franchise? Easy picks are Nauto and One Piece. But what about Bleach, HunterxHunter, Yuyu Hakusho, Jojo, or something else.

This is the reason while I wouldn't be against a sequel, as the first game is brilliant with few nitpicks and definitely the best fighter we've got for DB, I have no idea and no justification for a sequel in this format.
Pretty much what you said. The roster itself is already huge and not to mention the possible team variations. Story mode is pretty much a side mode in this kind of game and new story, with same characters and maybe tossing one or two new or original villains in the mix won't make any sense. Gameplay is tight, sure it can be improved on... Maybe tossing in some new original modes, but there is virtually nowhere to go further with this game.

This type of game is not an ensemble game in rank of virtual simulators like Tenkaichi was, therefore I completely agree with your post.

[DBZAOTA482]

The only other anime I see getting the FighterZ treatment are Naruto and One Piece. Their popularity rivals that of Dragon Ball's and they have tons of characters they can work with.

But even then, I don't see it happening before a sequel for this game. FighterZ is just too successful for Bamco to just let it die.

[DBZAOTA482]

I can see a lot of people complaining when FighterZ 2 starts with 16/20 characters.

A sequel won't continue the roster, it will reinvent the game. Even characters bound to return won't be the same since mechanics will be modified, removed or added.

The newcomers will probably be something from the new movie like Gamma 1/2. Perhaps someone from the manga like Moro. Maybe a exclusive game character like #21 was.
Goku and Vegeta are certain to be addressed differently.

The conversation should be: "who will be in the starting roster of FighterZ 2"?

There's no need to reinvent the game. FighterZ is still relatively modern. All it needs is some MAJOR changes and additions.

I believe majority of the characters from the first game while return along with the new faces.

[MCDaveG]

I don't see them using characters like Moro and Granolah as Super manga is pretty much ignored. Super DB Heroes might be an indicator of what to expect, as they pull off some crazy character variants, new characters and obscure characters like Hachihyaku, or Neko Majin from gag manga. Of course I will change my mind, if Heroes introduces these characters, but so far Super manga is ignored in the anime continuation and video games and it is pretty much a closed world and probably far behind with number of readers compared to the casual audience of TV show or gamers.

My bet is that they will rather invent some new and original character.

But again, I think that there is no reason for sequel at least for next 2-3 years and by that time, we might probably see a completely new slate of concepts and games. Super Dragon Ball Z on PS2 was also a one time deal.

[LightBing]

I can see a lot of people complaining when FighterZ 2 starts with 16/20 characters.

A sequel won't continue the roster, it will reinvent the game. Even characters bound to return won't be the same since mechanics will be modified, removed or added.

The newcomers will probably be something from the new movie like Gamma 1/2. Perhaps someone from the manga like Moro. Maybe a exclusive game character like #21 was.
Goku and Vegeta are certain to be addressed differently.

The conversation should be: "who will be in the starting roster of FighterZ 2"?

There's no need to reinvent the game. FighterZ is still relatively modern. All it needs is some MAJOR changes and additions.

I believe majority of the characters from the first game while return along with the new faces.

They need to reinvent to the point it feels like a different fighting game because that's what they'll be selling us. Besides being the normal modus operantis for fighting game sequels. Just look at the most recent Guilty Gear.

New story mode, graphics uplift, new mechanics, removal/modification of old mechanics and at least a couple of newcomers.
Perhaps new game modes.

In regards to returning characters, I can say with 99% sure that the cast will not return equally and those who do will be different. How different will differentiate: added and removed moves, perhaps unique mechanics or even total revamps of the way X character plays.

I predict 20 characters for FighterZ 2.
I expect them to lean on modern Dragon Ball more, I wouldn't be surprised if all the humans except Kuririn plus Nappa and Ginyu aren't in the base game.

[Xeno Goku Black]

Same as Xenoverse, they've hurt any sequel by adding in way to many characters as DLC into the first game.

They should have stopped at like 8 characters but they've gone and had 19 now?

Those extra 11 characters could have just been saved for FighterZ.

[Bardock God of Time]

One thing I'd love for FighterZ2

Character endings in the Arcade, maybe it's just a character getting a wish on the Dragon Balls.

Frieza's character ending would be him getting taller lol.

Also in fighting game sequels, most characters get completely new movesets - all the characters could be reinvented.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I don't see them using characters like Moro and Granolah as Super manga is pretty much ignored. Super DB Heroes might be an indicator of what to expect, as they pull off some crazy character variants, new characters and obscure characters like Hachihyaku, or Neko Majin from gag manga. Of course I will change my mind, if Heroes introduces these characters, but so far Super manga is ignored in the anime continuation and video games and it is pretty much a closed world and probably far behind with number of readers compared to the casual audience of TV show or gamers.

My bet is that they will rather invent some new and original character.

But again, I think that there is no reason for sequel at least for next 2-3 years and by that time, we might probably see a completely new slate of concepts and games. Super Dragon Ball Z on PS2 was also a one time deal.

I'd really like to see Moro and Gas in a fighting game. Moro's energy absorption could be pretty cool. Gas being a weapon changing character also sounds good on paper. I'm not expecting to see either for the reasons you mentioned, though.

[DBZAOTA482]

Super Dragon Ball Z on PS2 was also a one time deal.

But Super Dragon Ball Z was a dud. FighterZ is the most commercially successful Dragon Ball game of all-time.

There's no way it won't get a sequel knowing Bamco.

[DBZAOTA482]

I can see a lot of people complaining when FighterZ 2 starts with 16/20 characters.

A sequel won't continue the roster, it will reinvent the game. Even characters bound to return won't be the same since mechanics will be modified, removed or added.

The newcomers will probably be something from the new movie like Gamma 1/2. Perhaps someone from the manga like Moro. Maybe a exclusive game character like #21 was.
Goku and Vegeta are certain to be addressed differently.

The conversation should be: "who will be in the starting roster of FighterZ 2"?

There's no need to reinvent the game. FighterZ is still relatively modern. All it needs is some MAJOR changes and additions.

I believe majority of the characters from the first game while return along with the new faces.

They need to reinvent to the point it feels like a different fighting game because that's what they'll be selling us. Besides being the normal modus operantis for fighting game sequels. Just look at the most recent Guilty Gear.

New story mode, graphics uplift, new mechanics, removal/modification of old mechanics and at least a couple of newcomers.
Perhaps new game modes.

In regards to returning characters, I can say with 99% sure that the cast will not return equally and those who do will be different. How different will differentiate: added and removed moves, perhaps unique mechanics or even total revamps of the way X character plays.

I predict 20 characters for FighterZ 2.
I expect them to lean on modern Dragon Ball more, I wouldn't be surprised if all the humans except Kuririn plus Nappa and Ginyu aren't in the base game.

That would just piss a lot of the playerbase off. Keep in mind, it's still a Dragon Ball game and the fans won't be as forgiving to character cuts.

[MrGohanks]

So, this game has pretty much every character anyone would want in a Dragonball game. Everyone also list that same handfull of "characters that are missiing. A potential sequel can't jut make up some new characters just to fill slots. And DLC for the sequel would have you rebuying all the same characters you bought in the first game, or *audioinhale* some who were part of the base roster. Most modern fighting game sequels strive to give you a decent amount of new characters to accompany the returning ones. I don't really see any of the missing characters not in this game getting people too hyped about being in the starting roster over base roster and dlc roster from this game. If Arksys is still the dev for this, maybe they have dealt with this in their other series. I've never played or really follow their fighetrs.

But what i was considering, what if the next FighterZ game is not a Dragonball games, but some other super popular anime franchise? Easy picks are Nauto and One Piece. But what about Bleach, HunterxHunter, Yuyu Hakusho, Jojo, or something else.

My Hero Academia seems to be the next anime ArcSys wants to use for a game.

The only way I think a DBFZ2 could be done is if they have install transformations instead of forms being separate characters, and if the roster of the next game takes influences from Xenoverse.

[MCDaveG]

I don't see them using characters like Moro and Granolah as Super manga is pretty much ignored. Super DB Heroes might be an indicator of what to expect, as they pull off some crazy character variants, new characters and obscure characters like Hachihyaku, or Neko Majin from gag manga. Of course I will change my mind, if Heroes introduces these characters, but so far Super manga is ignored in the anime continuation and video games and it is pretty much a closed world and probably far behind with number of readers compared to the casual audience of TV show or gamers.

My bet is that they will rather invent some new and original character.

But again, I think that there is no reason for sequel at least for next 2-3 years and by that time, we might probably see a completely new slate of concepts and games. Super Dragon Ball Z on PS2 was also a one time deal.

I'd really like to see Moro and Gas in a fighting game. Moro's energy absorption could be pretty cool. Gas being a weapon changing character also sounds good on paper. I'm not expecting to see either for the reasons you mentioned, though.

I am usually in my boring mode of reason, but yeah, I would love to see Moro in a game or any form close to the anime with an voice actor.
I wonder if the exclusive manga arcs get into something, or if the manga will be viewed as an extra that exists in the future looking back.