"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" Official Discussion Thread

[Zelvin]

English Kai only I believe. He never said "parents" in JPN and Manga I believe.

Also Toriyama called him asexual

Toriyama never really clarified that. He only said something loosely along the lines of; "from Cold alone". Which could mean a single parent, or could've also meant that Freeza is an only child. Translating comes at the cost of not always understanding the meaning behind what the other is saying. I like to believe that there are male and females of Freeza's race, because it just doesn't make sense to have everything other than straight up human-looking aliens to have both genders. Namekians were kind of explained, but Freeza's people had no explanation at all for that line of thinking.

Some were like "Well they're kinda like lizards". But thing is, lizards, reptiles and such also all have Male and Female genders. Even birds and other non-mammalian creatures. So I can't understand the need to paint everything in Dragon Ball that doesn't look like a Human or Elf as an asexual race. It doesn't make any kind of sense. Especially since they don't even explain how they reproduce. Namekians are shown to spit up eggs, like with what King Piccolo has shown. But nothing for any of these other supposed asexual species.

So really I just call bull$hit on it until Toriyama nuts us and gives us a detailed explanation of Freeza's people. Until then, imma keep finding artwork of Arcosians with female figures. Because they are, in fact, interesting.

Spoiler:

I'd put those as a few Good examples of them. That last image I feel would've fit and been a whole lot better by just removing the hair. And overall, not much about the race had to be changed to give them that more feminine look and didn't require big jumbo boobies standing out to give the impression that these are women.

[DBZAOTA482]

English Kai only I believe. He never said "parents" in JPN and Manga I believe.

It's in the manga, anime, and FUNi Dub as well.

[Kamiccolo9]

English Kai only I believe. He never said "parents" in JPN and Manga I believe.

It's in the manga, anime, and FUNi Dub as well.

The word that Freeza used in the manga can mean either "Parent" or "Parents."

The odd thing, though, is that there is another word that specifically means "Parents." If the intention had been for Freeza to have both a mother and a father, why wouldn't that word have been used?

[DarkPrince_92]

...took a weird ass turn. Don't know why we can't let this go. Dude made a joke, like or leave it, plain and simple. We really don't need to look any further into Freeza's race or their sexuality. It doesn't matter.

[Zelvin]

The word that Freeza used in the manga can mean either "Parent" or "Parents."

The odd thing, though, is that there is another word that specifically means "Parents." If the intention had been for Freeza to have both a mother and a father, why wouldn't that word have been used?

Why would Toriyama throw out a random number for the length of Snake Way when, by his own impression of how the Universe/Cosmos looks, that we'd actually be looking at a cosmic distance?

Spoiler:

It's something that's glossed over and not given a lot of thought. Which leads to any number of inconsistencies in a story.

[Sigh-Ya-Jin]

English Kai only I believe. He never said "parents" in JPN and Manga I believe.

Also Toriyama called him asexual

Toriyama never really clarified that. He only said something loosely along the lines of; "from Cold alone". Which could mean a single parent, or could've also meant that Freeza is an only child. Translating comes at the cost of not always understanding the meaning behind what the other is saying. I like to believe that there are male and females of Freeza's race, because it just doesn't make sense to have everything other than straight up human-looking aliens to have both genders. Namekians were kind of explained, but Freeza's people had no explanation at all for that line of thinking.

Some were like "Well they're kinda like lizards". But thing is, lizards, reptiles and such also all have Male and Female genders. Even birds and other non-mammalian creatures. So I can't understand the need to paint everything in Dragon Ball that doesn't look like a Human or Elf as an asexual race. It doesn't make any kind of sense. Especially since they don't even explain how they reproduce. Namekians are shown to spit up eggs, like with what King Piccolo has shown. But nothing for any of these other supposed asexual species.

So really I just call bull$hit on it until Toriyama nuts us and gives us a detailed explanation of Freeza's people. Until then, imma keep finding artwork of Arcosians with female figures. Because they are, in fact, interesting.

Spoiler:

I'd put those as a few Good examples of them. That last image I feel would've fit and been a whole lot better by just removing the hair. And overall, not much about the race had to be changed to give them that more feminine look and didn't require big jumbo boobies standing out to give the impression that these are women.

Also every alien race isn't asexual, Tarbles wife for example. Plenty others but I can't pinpoint any more, and why can't the cold race be asexual? Most of them are already feminine in nature except for Coola but who knows how his first 3 forms looked like.

[Quebaz]

Appule and Raspberry really were put in just for group battle missions.

So this confirms that attacks are tied into costumes, goodbye Saiyan Arc SSJ Vegeta and Ultimate Gohan with his training outfit, I liked you guys.

[Saimaroimaru]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHaoXK6lQwM

SSJ3 Goku can do Spirit Bomb. Coolio.

[GoldLiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHaoXK6lQwM

SSJ3 Goku can do Spirit Bomb. Coolio.

Didn't we know this for over a month now?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Didn't we know this for over a month now?

Yeah.

[Zelvin]

Also every alien race isn't asexual, Tarbles wife for example. Plenty others but I can't pinpoint any more, and why can't the cold race be asexual? Most of them are already feminine in nature except for Coola but who knows how his first 3 forms looked like.

Unfortunately there isn't all that much. Cooler is non-canon so we can't count it. Technically neither is Kuriza, Chilled, Froze or any of the others. Gure, Tarble's wife, is the only one of her kind seen and she was only in a 30min Special. Far as we know her entire race are all females. Like Nymphs in mythos. But with the hotness removed.

If we look at all of Freeza's soldiers, there are no female or even female-looking types among them. They all just happen to be dudes Appule looks like he has the head of a squid and Cui is perhaps made out to be asexual, and played on in the Abridged series. Nothing is ever really touched upon or explained about their races. Primarily because they never mattered to the series. Could've replaced Cui and Appule with generic soldiers and nothing would've changed.

If we look at the whole of the Canon series, the only Alien females we have are Gure and the Kais. There's one female lower Kai who looks like a fat grasshopper lady. And then West Supreme Kai, who was only shown in the anime. And she just looks like an Elf with a huge mohawk. Even Zangya in "Bojack Unbound" was just a green-skinned elf. Even the Ogres in Otherworld who all work for Yemma are all dudes and the only females are from the filler with Princess Snake and her crew.

The only others are female saiyans, and those're literally just humans with tails. Even GT lacked the balls to do much of anything different and the only "Alien" women were elves or humans with one extra trait or appendage. I mean seriously, on the robot world with Rildo during the fight they break into a theater showing a film with what is essentially a human with wings in it. Where'd that come from in a world dominated by robots?

We got people who say we have too many femaliens in DBZ. Factually speaking, there are so incredibly few that actually look alien that I was actually concerned that the creators and writers for all xenophobic. I mean, look at the Otherworld Tournament filler. All of the fighters were like bad knockoffs of 70's horror movie monsters. And the commentator looked like he was kidnapped from the Mushroom Kingdom of Mario World.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Confirmation the costumes change character names? Appule's alternate is named Nabana, and Raspberi got Navel as one. Both had multiple costumes on the selection screen.

[Quebaz]

http://i.imgur.com/hInd8qQ.gifv

I heard you guys liked good combos with nice animations.

[InfernalVegito]

That's looking really fun and reminds me a lot of RB2. Seems to be pretty free in terms of movement.

[Sigh-Ya-Jin]

Yeah Freezas combo was sick, I usually like all of his combos in most of the DBZ games though, glad they didn't fuck it up.
I never liked Piccolos or Gokus combos but Namekku-Seijins combos look badass now!

[Lord Beerus]

Appule and Raspberry really were put in just for group battle missions.

So this confirms that attacks are tied into costumes, goodbye Saiyan Arc SSJ Vegeta and Ultimate Gohan with his training outfit, I liked you guys.

Ultimate Gohan's outfit is that same Goku's outfit. So what's the point of having two of the same outfits?

[Quebaz]

Ultimate Gohan's outfit is that same Goku's outfit. So what's the point of having two of the same outfits?

I'm talking about his blue/purple one.

[Shinnin]

Appule and Raspberry really were put in just for group battle missions.

So this confirms that attacks are tied into costumes, goodbye Saiyan Arc SSJ Vegeta and Ultimate Gohan with his training outfit, I liked you guys.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. Even worse is that Rhymestyle's now trying to convince people that the costumes are completely different characters rather than a crapped out version of Raging Blast's system.

[Lord Beerus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHaoXK6lQwM

SSJ3 Goku can do Spirit Bomb. Coolio.

Nice.

[KentalSSJ6]

Hey Sigh-a-jin can you remove Queebaz's gif from your post? It's making the page horribly slow.