The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:52 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Bojack VS Dabra.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:34 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Perfect Cell VS Fat Buu.
Which Fat Buu? Which Cell?

Fat Buu powers up like 4 times.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:11 pm

Perfect Cell being the one after self destructing, essentially SSJ2 Cell. Fat Buu being the one Buu that nearly kills Gohan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:25 pm

Boo, obviously. Super Perfect Cell was said to be even with SS2 Gohan, and SS2 Goku & Vegeta (post-Majin) were both stated to have surpassed Gohan from back then, yet they stood no chance against Boo.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:41 pm

Hmmm...

Videl VS ChiChi. Both are human martial artists of relatively great skill for humans.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:12 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Hmmm...

Videl VS ChiChi. Both are human martial artists of relatively great skill for humans.
Chi Chi destroys.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:28 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Videl VS ChiChi. Both are human martial artists of relatively great skill for humans.
Chichi trained under Gyumao, Kame-sennin's former pupil, and had a battle power close to Kame-sennin during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, making her a super-human. Videl, however, while she is very strong for a human, has only trained under normal real-life conditions, which makes her a very strong human. The only thing she can do with ki is fly & use ki blasts (according to video games). So, Chichi stomps.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:44 pm

I actually have Milk at 150 in the Saiyan saga and 145 in the Buu saga.

I have Videl at 14, lol.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:46 pm

Zombie wrote:I have Videl at 14, lol.
Stronger than Goku from the beginning?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:50 pm

I never actually done DB PL. Might do it someday. Until then I can't comment on that PL for Goku.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:50 pm

That Bruce lee guy in Dragonball vs Mr Satan

Capsule Corps(With Bulma) vs Tuffles.

Technology war
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:55 pm

I don't think Videl or Satan are above 5. They just have more physical strength than the average human, and in Videl's case, EXTREMELY basic ki manipulation.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:56 pm

Zombie wrote:I never actually done DB PL. Might do it someday. Until then I can't comment on that PL for Goku.
I don't make battle powers as well. But Goku's official battle power in the beginning of the manga is 10.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:08 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:That Bruce lee guy in Dragonball vs Mr Satan
Mr. Satan. He is an accomplished fighter and does have actual feats.
Capsule Corps(With Bulma) vs Tuffles.

Technology war
I guess Tuffles as they have access to better technology. Their ships we're way better than earth's and their technology created Hatchiyack.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:09 pm

Mr. Satan. He is an accomplished fighter and does have actual feats.
But can he beat Bruce mutha fucking Lee.
and their technology created Hatchiyack.
According to Cyborg Arc. We can create Cell and Cyborgs...bbut that was Gero not capsule corps.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:17 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:But can he beat Bruce mutha fucking Lee.
But that guy isn't Bruce Lee. Fake Bruce Lee wouldn't beat Mr. Satan
According to Cyborg Arc. We can create Cell and Cyborgs...bbut that was Gero not capsule corps.

Gero(with CC) vs Tuffles

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But you said Capsule corp, not Gero. With Gero it could be a tough call. Tuffles still make better Space ships and they can both create powerful warriors. I kinda lean to Tuffles still.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:41 pm

But that guy isn't Bruce Lee. Fake Bruce Lee wouldn't beat Mr. Satan
IN a nuthsell. I'm saying that guy was Bruce Lee even though I know he's not. Since Bruce lee isn't DB. It was a cheap excuse for Brucee Lee vs Satan
But you said Capsule corp, not Gero.
I corrected myself
With Gero it could be a tough call. Tuffles still make better Space ships and they can both create powerful warriors. I kinda lean to Tuffles still.
Gero made a ship :eh: ? Pretty sure if CC can make better ships than Tuffles then Gero sure can make better than Tuffles. Well Gero made cyborgs that can eat energy and pure energy cyborgs.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:48 pm

TheGmGoken wrote: IN a nuthsell. I'm saying that guy was Bruce Lee even though I know he's not. Since Bruce lee isn't DB. It was a cheap excuse for Brucee Lee vs Satan
Against real Bruce Lee I'm not sure. Mr. Satan has the strength advantage and he is an accomplished Martial artist.
Gero made a ship :eh: ? Pretty sure if CC can make better ships than Tuffles then Gero sure can make better than Tuffles. Well Gero made cyborgs that can eat energy and pure energy cyborgs.
The faster ships were based on Tuffle technology. Though they did improve on it with Goku's ship. So who knows.
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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:25 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Zombie wrote:I never actually done DB PL. Might do it someday. Until then I can't comment on that PL for Goku.
I don't make battle powers as well. But Goku's official battle power in the beginning of the manga is 10.
You know that I don't use SEG or Daiz PL. That 10 might not be good for me if I start doing one for DB. We'll see.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:32 pm

Zombie wrote:You know that I don't use SEG or Daiz PL.
... I didn't know, actually. :P
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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